discuss Domain discussion more detailed than Reg of Day and Appraisals

[Want2learn]

I wanted to discuss some domains. I think Reg of the Day is good for what it is and appraisals are good for what they are! I wanted a space where we could really talk domains. I have selfish motives bc I do want to talk about my domains . . . But I want to discuss your domains as well. Feel free to jump in with any constructive feedback that you have.

 

[Kuffy]

What names do you want to discuss then? I've just reg'd Gawpe.com , so you could gawpe at my names.

Well you could if you don't mind the mis-spelling.

gawpe - wider than the standard gawp.

 

[Want2learn]

So I'll start us off! I am trying to sell WesternStreet.com. As I was looking up pricing info I noticed a bunch of BLANKstreet.com domains.

I noticed that cake street, wine street, coffee street, beer street, etc; were already taken. I checked a BUNCH of names. Food and otherwise. Some developed, most not. Seems pricing was low 1/2XXX.

I decided to register DonutStreet.com and DoughnutStreet.com to cover both spellings. I am not just slick asking for appraisals for these! What are your thoughts in general about these names?

IIRC donuts and doughnuts have a lot of traffic and are big business.

Nice or nah?

 

[Want2learn]

What names do you want to discuss then? I've just reg'd Gawpe.com , so you could gawpe at my names.

Well you could if you don't mind the mis-spelling.

gawpe - wider than the standard gawp.

I have a ton of names. I assume many of you do as well. I am hoping this is the type of info that can help me come renewal/dropping/selling time!

Gawpe sounds like some Italian Gangster!

 

[Kuffy]

Street isn't a word I would use, but I know it is used quite a bit in branding, so I don't think I'm qualified to comment. A lot of those type of names can be used to build great sites "Domain lake" for example, but they do require a bit of work imho.

 

[Kuffy]

One of the things I would be interested in is white labelling. I want to white label domains for revenue until I get a good purchase offer.

 

[Want2learn]

What are white labels?

 

[Want2learn]

What about VodkaStreet.com? Or does that fall into same comments from above? I know BourbonStreet is an actual street. Beer and wine streets were both gone. I guess we could have a million different liquor names . . . Businesses make more money off spirits than they do wine and beer! LiquorStreet was gone. I just saw Vodka is a 10 Billion dollar industry, and is second only to whiskey.

I did think VodkaStreet.com would be better than SmirnoffStreet dot com!!

 

[Keukatodd]

I own domainmainstreet.com

 

[Kuffy]

What are white labels?

I used to work with a mens health sponsor, and I've just applied to re-open an account. They provide white label sites, and I want to set one up on a recent name of mine - MensDietSupplements.com They provide a SEO site, and you provide the domain name. You get a percentage of any revenue generated. Of course you have to do a bit to drive some traffic to the site. Once I've got it set up, I'll post a link. This afternoon I set up a white label tube site, and the info is in the adult section. I haven't been able to view the site as I'm on public WiFi

 

[Ategy]

WHITELABEL: Is when you sell another company's products under your name. Web hosting is popular for that. Meaning you go to WebsiteX.com and buy your hosting plan .. it is branded under CompanyX .. but in actual fact they are GoDaddy resellers (you just don't know it because there has been a "White Label" placed over GoDaddy's so to speak). This is also a popular phenomenon for products coming out of China (and even locally) in that you have a small personal business who find a product they like to resell .. they then contact the original producers and arrange a system where the manufacturer ships directly to the end consumer, but under the reseller's name. A lot of people make big money in White Label sales .. most Amazon resellers are actually white label .. that's why you sometimes see 20 different "companies" selling the exact same product under their own name (cheap electronics, kitchen supplies, etc etc).

As for the domain:
Bourbon street can't be compared to other GenericStreet names ... Bourbon Street is a famous party street in New Orleans .. it's like if you had TheStrip.com (for Vegas).

That being said .. I don't think ending in street is that bad for brandable creation. VodkaStreet is a good buy at HandReg in my opinion. Although I wouldn't pay much more than that. For some unknown reason DonutStreet doesn't ring for me, but I can't even explain why I don't place it in similar light to VodkaStreet .. lol

Technically alcohol brands usually sell for more. There are certainly more Vodka startups out there than for donuts. The term street for me infers it is a market place however .. so not actually a brandable for a startup with a product, but more for a marketplace .. the only problem there is that any potential marketplace would be just vodka or donuts (those names could potentially hurt if they wanted to sell Rum or Cookies for example).

But losts marketplaces do exist online .. tons of specialised Vodka ,, gourmet donuts as well, but on a much smaller scale.

Also the hassle of dual spelling for donuts make it a messier sell and more likely any end user would use another way to brand themselves.

Personally I'd pick up VodkaStreet but not DonutStreet. But it's far from being the worse domain I've ever seen! lol


@Kuffy .. what is Gawpe misspelled from? I don't see it! lol

 

[Kuffy]

I think most Amazon sites are drop shipping sites rather than white label. Still a valid concept, but I think it involves a bit more work.
The other idea I'm considering is using casino landing pages to build a site.

 

[Want2learn]

I own domainmainstreet.com

I like it. How long have you had it? Hand reg or secondary market?

 

[Ategy]

I think most Amazon sites are drop shipping sites rather than white label. Still a valid concept, but I think it involves a bit more work.
The other idea I'm considering is using casino landing pages to build a site.

Well .. actually I think technically they are both ... I that you can have drop shipping with no label or original manufacturer's label. White label is when the middle person (theoretically us if we're using our sites to resell or potential end user if they aren't manufacturing) has their own brand on all the boxes / documentation, etc. Basically the end buyer thinks the new brand is the manufacturer because of the changed labelling.

But yes .. I'd think almost all White Label products would likely also be drop shipped, with the exception of Amazon reseller products, but in that case Amazon effectively acts as the drop shipper and marketplace .. so similar/same end result.

 

[Ategy]

I own domainmainstreet.com

I like it. How long have you had it? Hand reg or secondary market?

I actually don't like it as much .. repeating segments can be good (usually great even when 2 words rhyme) for short concise 2-word brandables .. but here it's 3 words and just sounds a bit clunky. It's not a terribly bad domain .. just not a great one either .. I wouldn't have picked it up at HandReg I'm sorry to say. If it were DomainStreet I think it would have been an amazing domain!

 

[Grilled]

So I'll start us off! I am trying to sell WesternStreet.com. As I was looking up pricing info I noticed a bunch of BLANKstreet.com domains.

I noticed that cake street, wine street, coffee street, beer street, etc; were already taken. I checked a BUNCH of names. Food and otherwise. Some developed, most not. Seems pricing was low 1/2XXX.

When you say, 'looking up pricing info' do you mean you were looking at other peoples asking price?

How does somebody else's asking price effect the price of your domain? Everybody prices differently; some off market value, others in hope. At the end of the day it's valued what people are willing to pay. I know most sales are done privately so it's hard to use NameBio or DNPric.es to know what endusers are paying, but IMO it's a better place to look than other people's asking price.

Start by choosing your main keyword. In the above discussion it seems it's 'street' Thus you search .com sales ending in 'street' Then you can see the kind of prefixes that (reported sales wise) pair well with suffix 'street' -- check sales date to see if sales are consistent or trendy.

You can also search sales ending in 'streets' to get an idea if singular or plural is the better form. In this instance (134 sales ended in street vs 9 ending in streets)

Some keywords such as Sport/Sports have more sales in plural. Not usually the case, but depending on word combo's, plural can be better sometimes. 230 reported sales singular sport vs 321 reported for the plural sports.

 

[Want2learn]

WHITELABEL: Is when you sell another company's products under your name. Web hosting is popular for that. Meaning you go to WebsiteX.com and buy your hosting plan .. it is branded under CompanyX .. but in actual fact they are GoDaddy resellers (you just don't know it because there has been a "White Label" placed over GoDaddy's so to speak). This is also a popular phenomenon for products coming out of China (and even locally) in that you have a small personal business who find a product they like to resell .. they then contact the original producers and arrange a system where the manufacturer ships directly to the end consumer, but under the reseller's name. A lot of people make big money in White Label sales .. most Amazon resellers are actually white label .. that's why you sometimes see 20 different "companies" selling the exact same product under their own name (cheap electronics, kitchen supplies, etc etc).

As for the domain:
Bourbon street can't be compared to other GenericStreet names ... Bourbon Street is a famous party street in New Orleans .. it's like if you had TheStrip.com (for Vegas).

That being said .. I don't think ending in street is that bad for brandable creation. VodkaStreet is a good buy at HandReg in my opinion. Although I wouldn't pay much more than that. For some unknown reason DonutStreet doesn't ring for me, but I can't even explain why I don't place it in similar light to VodkaStreet .. lol

Technically alcohol brands usually sell for more. There are certainly more Vodka startups out there than for donuts. The term street for me infers it is a market place however .. so not actually a brandable for a startup with a product, but more for a marketplace .. the only problem there is that any potential marketplace would be just vodka or donuts (those names could potentially hurt if they wanted to sell Rum or Cookies for example).

But losts marketplaces do exist online .. tons of specialised Vodka ,, gourmet donuts as well, but on a much smaller scale.

Also the hassle of dual spelling for donuts make it a messier sell and more likely any end user would use another way to brand themselves.

Personally I'd pick up VodkaStreet but not DonutStreet. But it's far from being the worse domain I've ever seen! lol


@Kuffy .. what is Gawpe misspelled from? I don't see it! lol

Thank you for your feedback. This is one of the things that fascinates me about domaining, two things can be similar and worlds apart . . . CakeStreet or DonutStreet . . . or DonutStreet and DoughnutStreet . . . or BrandNames and RebrandNames.

So let me toss another one out there. What do we call the people that rent homes? Renters! What do we call the homes that are rented? Rentals! And renters! If I owned 5 rental properties and you asked me how many renters I had, I would say 5. If you asked how many rentals I had occupied, I would say I have X renters. If you asked me how many rentals I was trying to sell I might say I am trying to sell X renters or X rentals. Im not sure if that is a regional thing or if you were typing this you would say the same things?

I did think, now what will investors at NP say/ask? Is the concept renters for sale even a thing? Because it sounds like you are selling people! LOL

Actually renters for sale appears to have a few potential meanings. Selling homes with tenants. Selling rental homes. Rent to own type concepts.

RentalsForSale long gone.

Thoughts on RentersForSale.com?

 

[Want2learn]

When you say, 'looking up pricing info' do you mean you were looking at other peoples asking price?

How does somebody else's asking price effect the price of your domain? Everybody prices differently; some off market value, others in hope. At the end of the day it's valued what people are willing to pay. I know most sales are done privately so it's hard to use NameBio or DNPric.es to know what endusers are paying, but IMO it's a better place to look than other people's asking price.

Start by choosing your main keyword. In the above discussion it seems it's 'street' Thus you search .com sales ending in 'street' Then you can see the kind of prefixes that (reported sales wise) pair well with suffix 'street' -- check sales date to see if sales are consistent or trendy.

You can also search sales ending in 'streets' to get an idea if singular or plural is the better form. In this instance (134 sales ended in street vs 9 ending in streets)

Some keywords such as Sport/Sports have more sales in plural. Not usually the case, but depending on word combo's, plural can be better sometimes. 230 reported sales singular sport vs 321 reported for the plural sports.

Namebio is what I was looking at, past sales history. I put in the keywords and just looked at what has sold historically/recently.

Pricing is something I have found difficult to do well. History doesn't tell me how to price, but some sort of frame of reference is needed! I will say that if you had BeyondFishing dot com and I had BeyondHunting dot com, if you were asking 200, I would be unlikely to ask XXXX unless i thought u were undervalued. If u were at 7k and I thought u were high I might come in at 3k or so . . .

And thank you for the feedback. I always appreciate constructive feedback and dialogue!!

 

[Ategy]

I think the term is "Rental Properties" ... but in actuality every market category is different .. then within them there can sometimes be regional differences. That's why domaining can be good. If you have above average existing knowledge of a particular product/service category then you can find names that other domainers don't see.

But in the end every niche is different. You need to look at potential end users and value of the niche (like real estate is vastly more profitable than donuts .. lol) .. then choose your names wisely!

 

[Kuffy]

There is a difference between white label products and white label sites. I'm hoping for own branded sites that are provided by the retailer. I don't do anything other than drive traffic to them.