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Domain Age, Why Do So Many Domainers Lie About It?

Discussion in 'General Domain Discussion' started by Daniel Owens, Feb 19, 2018.

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Do you agree it is wrong to register a domain today then claim it is several years old?

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  1. Daniel Owens

    Daniel Owens Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    Often, when I'm looking at a domain on namepros or some other platforms that require the seller input the registration date of the domain I see one immoral thing done over and over. What, many domainers are doing is hand-regging a domain like yesterday //.2018 but putting age as 1998 or something. Maybe, it was regged in 1998 the first time (although no way to check as hosterstats only had year 2000+ data). Why do they lie about it? Do you all agree this is a practice that should be stopped and that domainers should not say a hand-regged domain is 20+ years old? Do you agree the age/date stated should match the current whois?
     
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  2. Masay

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    Example?
     
  3. NameTurtle

    NameTurtle Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    There are ways to check the first registration date of a name (DomainIQ will often show Whois history before 2000).

    It gets tricky with names picked up through Dropcatch for instance, because with some backorders/catches the clock resets, so calling all names that show 2017-18 under Whois “hand registrations” is also not fair/precise.

    Ultimately, I doubt anyone is buying anything for the age alone. I don’t see how one would stop the practice - I think if anyone is doing it to mislead, it’s a harmless trick that is quick to prove false and will quickly undermine one’s credibility as a seller.
     
  4. korganian

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    I've never seen an experienced domainer do that on NP. Lots of people just don't know what they are doing. Maybe you could turn this into an educational thread to enlighten them. :sneaky:
     
  5. anantj

    anantj Active Member VIP

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    AFAIK, you can (and I think should) report them to the mods for misleading info. While you're an experienced domainer and do your due diligence, not everyone does. You'll be helping the lesser experienced and newbies
     
  6. Kuffy

    Kuffy Name Stag VIP

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    I can see that continuous use of a name for many years can add value. I can also see that a new registration should start the name at ground level, assuming it doesn't have a toxic past. It's the intermediate state that always surprises me. I've picked up names that have been registered without a break since 1999, but never used. I've also found names that have had a multitude of uses, and weren't hosted prior to my picking them up from an expired list. I'm not sure why those should have any extra value.
     
  7. alcy

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    no lies
    just newbies not knowing
     
  8. DNWon

    DNWon eCommerce Branding Specialist Gold Account VIP

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    Age is in the eye of the d-holder! :peeking:
     
  9. Daniel Owens

    Daniel Owens Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    Waiting more opinions. I'm learning a lot from responses so far.
     
  10. Daniel Owens

    Daniel Owens Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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  11. NameYourself

    NameYourself Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I've not noticed this being a big problem on namepros as this thread assumes. It's easy to tell how old a name is, so not sure why anyone would lie about that in the first place.

    Clock resets in my opinion with each new create date.. perhaps some of the seo experts on here can confirm if search engines also reset the clock after a name drops too?
     
  12. OmarVG

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    If someone claims that his domain is several years old, he obviously doesn't know the tool "Who is" where everybody can check the domain age and other data.
    He will be Busted in minutes and tagged as liar, newbie and a total fraud...
     
  13. hookbox

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    If you tell an end user that the domain was originally registered in 1997 even though it had been dropped a few times and date reset are you really technically deceiving them?
     
  14. namelancer

    namelancer Established Member

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    Why domainers lie about a domain age ?

    For the same reason women lie about theirs....
     
  15. Rich

    Rich Upgraded Member Blue Account VIP

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    It's greed, page rank doesn't exist anymore so they have to fluff the listing up with whatever BS they think will sell, or newbies not knowing.
     
  16. xynames

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    This sort of "tactic" is used by newbies who get defensive when you ask why they are asking for more than twenty bucks for something they just hand registered. But in some cases, it is actually true and the domain was simply dropped, and was originally registered at some point in the past.

    The fact of the matter is - such subterfuge is unnecessary. Either the domain has value or it does not. It stands on its name, or it does not. Why lie about something that might be irrelevant?

    The difference between a newly registered name and one that was dropped is sometimes very little.
     
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  17. tiawood

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    "Do you agree it is wrong to register a domain today then claim it is several years old?"

    No, I do not think it's wrong. I think it's stupid. :wtf: It's easily verifiable??
     
  18. HotKey

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    Domainers tend to understand the age of a domain starts from its current registration date. SEO experts and webmasters tend to classify a domains age from when it first started collecting backlinks, which is usually from the first time it was ever created. Really, neither way of determining age is incorrect as long as its used in the correct context.

    To sell a name that was registered after a drop/fresh reg with history and say that it is XX years old is misleading unless specified that the FIRST creation date was XX years ago, but its current registration is only XX months or X year ago.
     
  19. Daniel Owens

    Daniel Owens Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    Bump, tired of seeing people basically lie. I mean for instance if I was developing a hosting company and just starting it. Would it help if my domain was created 1 day ago? Seriously, I can't imagine!
     
  20. namerav

    namerav Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I doubt intentionally anyone lie about domain age.
     
  21. Daniel Owens

    Daniel Owens Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    @namerav I've seen thousands of domainers lie about it.
     
  22. namerav

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    Maybe due to confusion/ignorance because ultimately people will check and eventually know the right age of domain.
     
  23. ImpressionStream

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    Misquoting domain age may possibly be done by few new domainers. I believe with experience new domainers learn to respect other fellow domainers' intellect.
     
  24. namerav

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    I agree.
    Even if domain age is mentioned wrongly, it is easily verifiable and can be corrected.
     
  25. namerav

    namerav Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Some sites where you can check true age of domain are:
    DomainIQ.com
    Godaddy.com
    Whois.com
     

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