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1. For those of us who are premo holders, here is where something extremely negative for us could play out............potentially one for the lawyers....

If this 70% discount was put into effect to entice us to buy premos with the advance knowledge that this would be moving over to Enom......

And that Enom would auction off the premos at an auction with the winners paying a one off fee...followed by a reg fee for everafter......

Then......if, and I repeat if, Enom decides to keep our premos that we regged at .TV at aa contiuing yearly premium renewal fee........then this in its own right....a very questionable practice.......

But, that yearly reg fee could be offset by any premo holders auctioning their names off to the highest bidder......so some form of compensation there....

If, Enom decides that even if we were to sell our premos on the market.....that any potential new owner would need to keep paying premo renewal fees......then that is a disaster for all of us who hold premos....because who will buy a name of us that even after auction, the new owner would pay premo reg fees.......no one would ever bid on a premo that was bought during .TV's stewardship.....because that equals buying the name off the current owner plus premo reg fees as opposed to other premo names they could buy now at auction with no premo renewal fees.....

This needs to be clarified asap........otherwise all hell will break loose......any jury deciding a case like this would see the obvious manipulation of 70% discount as a lure to get as many premo regges as possible just a couple of months before it goes to enom at auction......

This is as serious an issue as you could possibly have right now....
 
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It is only an assumption that they would offer premiums for auction (that's what I would do), but if they did then the only fair thing to do is to make all our premium renewels the standard $35.00 fee. (That's also what I would do). And if that is the case, I would reg another 10 premiums now!
 
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SearchingTV said:
It is only an assumption that they would offer premiums for auction (that's what I would do), but if they did then the only fair thing to do is to make all our premium renewels the standard $35.00 fee. (That's also what I would do). And if that is the case, I would reg another 10 premiums now!

Searching

Your scenario is obviously my hope and dream too.........but THAT IS THE HUGE QUESTION....what if THEY DONT???? We are all fuxxed......And I can tell you this......there are alot of players here who will go after Verisign big time if this the case....blatant example of a company that offers an 80% discount on all its stock....gets paid $200,000 upfront by people who think they are getting a deal and then runs off with all the money.......


Coming SNOOP.....if ever you had a moment to bask in glory - this is it!!
 
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MILLERSCROSSING said:
Coming SNOOP.....if ever you had a moment to bask in glory - this is it!!

lol
 
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It could be bad news, but I cannot see any legal grounds for action unless they fail to honor your existing deal with dot tv. The only thing you can hope for is that they maintain the same model for premium domains.
 
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James who told you that enom was going to auction off premium .tvs like the HRTS auction which was auction and then $50 after that. Secondly when someone new takes over they can change the business model no one can come afterVersiign for that no one told anyone to reg any domains they did of their own free choice. I always mentioned pricing would change and that Verisign would not run the registry forever. I think premiums will still be $$$ because Tuvalu still needs to be paid
 
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equity78 said:
James who told you that enom was going to auction off premium .tvs like the HRTS auction which was auction and then $50 after that. Secondly when someone new takes over they can change the business model no one can come afterVersiign for that no one told anyone to reg any domains they did of their own free choice. I always mentioned pricing would change and that Verisign would not run the registry forever. I think premiums will still be $$$ because Tuvalu still needs to be paid

Equity,

No-one has told me that....I suffer from a disease, amongst others, called neurosis....if I don't have something to worry about, I feel uneasy......

I am just looking at a possible worse case scenario......

As regards noone being able to coe after Verisign....hhmmmmm - it will be tough I am sure.....but there may be recourse in a very narrow range of cases where a company may be held responsible for a tort, not a contract, in other words, contractually the company may be within rights.....but sometimes courts have ruled that contract aside, if it behaves in a manner that is so misleading, so deceiving, then the courts will not allow such behaviour to be protected by contract.....

Now, offering a 70% discount is an inducement, a strong inducement, to bring in sales.

If Verisgn knowingly offered this and has knowledge that Enoms' premium business model would make even a 70% discount an extremely bad buy, then they are not off the hook.....

But keep fingers crossed and hopefully we can look at todays' saga as a huge mismanagement by .TV in their informing processes and nothing more than that......
 
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haha MILLER,

Didn't anybody tell you, Neurosis can be cured today. The cure is the modern day chill-pill. Stop causing yourself needless and unwarranted anxiety. I sense you are getting the first tastes of what it is like to be an entrepreneur.

Life as an entrepreneur is a roller coaster ride. If you cannot hang on, or you do not have the stomach for it, you get off real quick. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

When you are a millionaire, drop me a line and let me know you have countless stories that nobody would believe if you told them. Measure life less by the money you make but by the stories you tell.

I strive for that model every day and it keeps me Neurosis free.
 
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sinnr said:
haha MILLER,

Didn't anybody tell you, Neurosis can be cured today. The cure is the modern day chill-pill. Stop causing yourself needless and unwarranted anxiety. I sense you are getting the first tastes of what it is like to be an entrepreneur.

Life as an entrepreneur is a roller coaster ride. If you cannot hang on, or you do not have the stomach for it, you get off real quick. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

When you are a millionaire, drop me a line and let me know you have countless stories that nobody would believe if you told them. Measure life less by the money you make but by the stories you tell.

I strive for that model every day and it keeps me Neurosis free.


The first step to recovery is admitting to myself and another human being/forum that I have this disease......then I can start dealing with it by way of a chill pill - as long as it is not mood or mind altering........!!

You r right......this is a risk/reward game we are playing........I guess I am more pissed off by the unprofessionalism at the WAY this was announced than the potential pitfalls that may lie ahead.........

I want to make it clear......my protection strategy will always be as antonis has pointed out - develop and it dont make a difference what pricing structure is in place......whilst I will never develop all or even most of my portfolio, I will definately be spoiled for choice as which to choose from when I do make a go of it....

2006 is/was my speculation year, 2007 will be my development year......of that I am certain....... :D

Millers
 
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Evaluate your portfolio, pick the best one (best is subjective), and gof for it.

Nothing has changed with the crossover between www . tv and enom.

Perhaps you should call enom and investigate for yourself since the transaction perturbs you. After all, weren't you in contact with www . tv based on some of your previous posts? Why not find a similar contact within enom? Rather than looking at the negative this is your opportunity to get in good with someone at enom...
 
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I am also a bit nervous just like Millers.

The best case scenario will be that they keep the premiums as what they are now and still doing some discounts on them and that the non-premiums will go for say $9.95 or $14.95. This will create a huge market and recognizability for .tv. And when the big companies want the premium ones or the very best non-premiums they know where to find us :)

On the other hand, if they auction off premium ones and having them at non-premium reg fees and still holding us on our high fees, that will be a problem.
If that happens, I think there will be a stir as there are many people and companies who have premium ones.

As many premium regs just happened in the last 6 months, I can't imagine they will not take the advantage of that and just continue, maybe in a slighly different way, with this.

Probably the people at Enom are now defining their .tv strategy.
We will know soon enough ;)
 
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johntv said:
I am also a bit nervous just like Millers.

The best case scenario will be that they keep the premiums as what they are now and still doing some discounts on them and that the non-premiums will go for say $9.95 or $14.95. This will create a huge market and recognizability for .tv. And when the big companies want the premium ones or the very best non-premiums they know where to find us :)

On the other hand, if they auction off premium ones and having them at non-premium reg fees and still holding us on our high fees, that will be a problem.
If that happens, I think there will be a stir as there are many people and companies who have premium ones.

As many premium regs just happened in the last 6 months, I can't imagine they will not take the advantage of that and just continue, maybe in a slighly different way, with this.

Probably the people at Enom are now defining their .tv strategy.
We will know soon enough ;)


somehow I can't imagine that the worst-case scenario is that they drop prices, particularly since so many names are already regged. LOL. The worst case scenario is reneging on discounts etc.

There have always been folks with premiums that were auctioned in early days and have low ongoing reg fees. So what?

If you felt that the market value of your name was worth more than the accumulated cost of your yearly renewals yesterday, you should feel that today. As I have said from the beginning, www.tv HAS been selling the premium names, it has just been offering an installment payment plan. :)
 
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antonis12 said:
As I have said from the beginning, www.tv HAS been selling the premium names, it has just been offering an installment payment plan. :)

Antonis,

Probably the best line I have seen yet on this forum......today I was looking at my portfolio thinking - how many of these would I have been able to afford in auction??

If I was lucky - maybe two - and these would have been the least attractive of the portfolio........and I hope that I am sitting on a goldmine with DE.TV IT.TV, IPO.TV, THAILAND.TV, EDUCATION.TV and a couple of others.

If Education.TV got auctioned off even six months ago - there is no way I would now be the owner...not a chance in hell, nor IT.TV or the rest......

I have been given an oppurtunity to play with the big boys by being offered as you say it - installment payments......and who knows...if these bets take of, I will have made enough from the sale of some to buy out the name on the rest.........

Very very accurate assessment Antonis.

Cheers

James :kickass:
 
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Take my word James. You are sitting on a nice set of names. Only the best times ahead with this move.

Glad to know you:D

GH

MILLERSCROSSING said:
Antonis,

Probably the best line I have seen yet on this forum......today I was looking at my portfolio thinking - how many of these would I have been able to afford in auction??

If I was lucky - maybe two - and these would have been the least attractive of the portfolio........and I hope that I am sitting on a goldmine with DE.TV IT.TV, IPO.TV, THAILAND.TV, EDUCATION.TV and a couple of others.

If Education.TV got auctioned off even six months ago - there is no way I would now be the owner...not a chance in hell, nor IT.TV or the rest......

I have been given an oppurtunity to play with the big boys by being offered as you say it - installment payments......and who knows...if these bets take of, I will have made enough from the sale of some to buy out the name on the rest.........

Very very accurate assessment Antonis.

Cheers

James :kickass:
 
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gamehouse said:
Take my word James. You are sitting on a nice set of names. Only the best times ahead with this move.

Glad to know you:D

GH

Thanks GH,

I think Live Media has incredibe potential aswell.

Think of Brightcove......wouldnt Live Media have been a better choice of Brand?!!

I am sure many companies out there think so.....the knock on the door will come your way soon!!

Regards

James
 
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MILLERSCROSSING said:
Thanks GH,

I think Live Media has incredibe potential aswell.

Think of Brightcove......wouldnt Live Media have been a better choice of Brand?!!

I am sure many companies out there think so.....the knock on the door will come your way soon!!

Regards

James

is there much difference between brightcove and livemedia? and which is better to deal with?
 
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