Do You Sell To End Users if ...

[Skinny]

Do you guys recommend selling a domain to an enduser if the 60 days at a registry aren't up yet?

Is this a big deal? Obviously they can't transfer the domain to their register if a deal were to be completed?

Do you guys wait for the 60 days to finish or do you just sell at any time and the end user is stuck with the problem?

Skinny

 

[twomoon]

Do you guys recommend selling a domain to an enduser if the 60 days at a registry aren't up yet?

Is this a big deal? Obviously they can't transfer the domain to their register if a deal were to be completed?

Do you guys wait for the 60 days to finish or do you just sell at any time and the end user is stuck with the problem?

Skinny

If I'm selling a domain directly to an Enduser I'm always asking him to open an account at the current registrar (no matter if domain is in 60 days lock or not). It is always worked for my transactions and nobody ever asked me to transfer domain name to the buyer's registrar.
Hope it helps

 

[DavidH]

I always use major registrars such as Godaddy or Enom whereby it is very easy for the buyer to get an account free (I am an Enom reseller so I do all the work for them).

Never had any problem with the 60 day limit - my personal quickest record is to sell a name the day after I registered it and the transfer went through fine.

 

[Skinny]

That sounds good then.

Anybody reading this feel free to continue giving your opinions as I'm watching this thread.

Skinny

 

[kotan]

I think you can simply ask your buyer to open an account with the same registrar as you so that the domain can be moved instantly. It helps to be under big time registrars like GoDaddy, eNom, or Moniker that most people and end-users are familiar with.

Oh and if it helps w/ any confirmation, I'm new to this too and I've asked GoDaddy specifically about moving newly registered domains to another GoDaddy account and they said yes, you can do that

 

[SiberForum]

I suppose you are allowed to sell your domain name whenever you want to. Just the buyer should be aware about expiration date.

 

[glaxxon]

Ya i think in general it should be enough to just let the buyer know about expiry and other stuff and that you require them to open an account with your registrar.

 

[Sameh]

I never had a problem with it but two months ago I sold a domain to Australian end-user who insisted on transferring the domain to his registrar Melbourne IT. I told him that GoDaddy's Market Share is around 34% with 38 Million Domains and if he still insist on transferring the domain he can secure the payment with me and I wouldn't have a problem holding the domain for him until the 60 day limit is off. Otherwise I'll have to contact the next interested party who have no problem with GoDaddy and their final offer is only $25 lower than his. 30 minutes later he sent me his GoDaddy Email ID & Password so I can do the push for him.

BTW, Brad (bmugford) mentioned in another thread that GoDaddy will remove the 60 day limit on any domain if you asked them.


Sameh

 

[Kate]

BTW, Brad (bmugford) mentioned in another thread that GoDaddy will remove the 60 day limit on any domain if you asked them.

This is for the 60-day lockdown at godaddy when you edit the contact details.

It won't work for new registrations (< 60 days) because of icann regulations. However the godaddy lockdown has nothing to do with icann regulations, this is just to confuse you.

 

[Spade]

Frankly, I consider it much safer to push the domain then to transfer it to another registrar. If something goes wrong with the transaction (fraud, etc), your recourse is much better dealing within one registrar, then 2.

 

[fm1234]

I always wait until the shelter period is over. End user sales are the beginning of the "life cycle" I have for domains, and over and above clearing up any transfer issues, giving the domains 60 days to park gives me some insight on whether or not I might actually want to keep them (this assumes you're actually registering quality domains of course.)

Regarding the other point being floated above, it's never even crossed my mind to require someone to open an account with my registrar ("If you want it, that's fine; but you'll have to change your ways ..." WTF?)


Frank

 

[Skinny]

Thanks for the feedback. I have sold enough domains to domainers which obviously don't mind creating accounts at another registrar, but I'm just not if this applies to end users.

I guess most just ask the client to open a new acct. at your registrar.

@Frank: Good point on the 60 days in terms of getting info on traffic etc.

Do you give end users the option of transferring or pushing?

Skinny

 

[fm1234]

I generally assume that they will use their own registrar. Part of my screening/prospecting process includes getting a sample of the registrars the prospect uses (if more than one.)

Because I do run my own little reseller registrar, if they don't seem married to a given company I will offer them a buy rate account at Atlantis -- this enables them to register and renew domains pretty cheaply, without having one more thing to think about and manage. This has definitely closed one sale for me since I started offering it around December, and has probably swayed or influenced a few buyers. But of course that's getting off a little from the main question. Short version (too late) is that I always offer the option to keep it with us, but run on the assumption that they won't.


Frank

 

[End User King]

Learn a lil somethin somethin everday!

I never had a problem with it but two months ago I sold a domain to Australian end-user who insisted on transferring the domain to his registrar Melbourne IT. I told him that GoDaddy's Market Share is around 34% with 38 Million Domains and if he still insist on transferring the domain he can secure the payment with me and I wouldn't have a problem holding the domain for him until the 60 day limit is off. Otherwise I'll have to contact the next interested party who have no problem with GoDaddy and their final offer is only $25 lower than his. 30 minutes later he sent me his GoDaddy Email ID & Password so I can do the push for him.

BTW, Brad (bmugford) mentioned in another thread that GoDaddy will remove the 60 day limit on any domain if you asked them.


Sameh

---------- Post added at 09:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 PM ----------

Err..so this will not work then, guess it's worth a try!

This is for the 60-day lockdown at godaddy when you edit the contact details.

It won't work for new registrations (< 60 days) because of icann regulations. However the godaddy lockdown has nothing to do with icann regulations, this is just to confuse you.

 

[Sameh]

Do you give end users the option of transferring or pushing?

Skinny

It always go like this : Please let us know your (required info for the push) and we will push your domain name right away.

If the buyer wants to transfer the domain I'll try to convince him that push would be better/faster. If he still insist on the transfer, then no problem.


Sameh

 

[End User King]

Dynadot.com offers the easiest push I know. Plus it's easy to create an account for the end user.