Discuss your Epik Experience!

[Dandelion]

I think Epik is building the best ever Domain Lander in the history of domaining, and it really needs to be talked about extensively. That's why I am creating this discussion thread. A lot of thought process really goes into the project. And I can see (for the first time) a landing page that is built from the stand point of domainers rather than for just the marketplace itself.

Everything you have ever dreamt of getting or seeing in a professional landing page can be found in the new Epik marketplace landing page design.

Some of my Favorites Features:

1. The ability to optimize your "domain for sale" landing page to actually rank on Google, displaying your sales pitch/domain description. I just did that with few of my generic domain names such as ASAP.TV, targeting certain keywords, and they are showing pretty well on Google. That's a huge plus in my marketing effort.

2. Being able to change background image is another huge one for me. If you are good with pictures and images, you will surely find this very useful. I did that with Nagasaki.org and the result was truly amazing, showing the city of Nagasaki right at the background.

There are too many positive features and I don't want to mention all of them, all alone

So I am leaving you guys to share and discuss what you loves most or dislike about the new Epik marketplace and the landing pages.

The only negative for me is the checkout process. There are too many terms and conditions buttons to tick before checking out. It will be nice if they can streamline those into one beautiful big button

They also need to place the checkout button directly under the payment options. Right now it is awkwardly place somewhere below at the sidebar, which I don't find cool at all.

Sales experience is also welcomed in this discussion. I haven't had any sells so far at Epik because I started using the marketplace just recently, but the future is looking so bright.

 

[Dream Domains]

I have no plans to hold my names for 47 years, the plan is to sell.

How many forever registrations do you have? You skipped that part.

I send you a PM.

 

[Rob Monster]

You're talking about other stuff again, not actually what I posted.

And domainers sell domains.

Gab has nothing to do with anything I posted.

Still didn't reply to what happens if you go out of business.

If you take it to another registrar, they don't do forever domains, it's wasted money.

I am showing you that Epik is an innovation machine. We are creating value. We are making the pie bigger and we are sharing the pie with domainers. I am trying to help you to get that through your head because you are smart, but narrow-minded in the box.

In the unlikely event that Epik ceased to exist, then the domains would have been registered for 10 years. However, the far more likely scenario is that Epik gets acquired and the acquirer would carry on the obligations or refund.

if an acquirer did not want the liability of a portfolio of Forever renewals, the Terms of Service allows for the scenario of refunding the customer what they paid. They get to keep the pre-paid time and get a refund of the price they paid.

 

[Dream Domains]

Check PM

 

[JB Lions]

I am showing you that Epik is an innovation machine. We are creating value. We are making the pie bigger and we are sharing the pie with domainers. I am trying to help you to get that through your head because you are smart, but narrow-minded in the box.

In the unlikely event that Epik ceased to exist, then the domains would have been registered for 10 years. However, the far more likely scenario is that Epik gets acquired and the acquirer would carry on the obligations or refund.

if an acquirer did not want the liability of a portfolio of Forever renewals, the Terms of Service allows for the scenario of refunding the customer what they paid. They get to keep the pre-paid time and get a refund of the price they paid.

This is why I asked, because this was always confusing. Instead of answering, you said go read the fine print. I did, it says:

"Thereafter, so long as the Forever Domain remains registered at Epik, Epik shall annually renew said domain for 1 additional year, provided the TLD registry in question allows the expiration date to be extended that far."

You just said 10 years. "In the unlikely event that Epik ceased to exist, then the domains would have been registered for 10 years."

Somebody pays the $399 today. Is it regged for 10 years like you just said or does it annually renew for 1 year, what your fine print says?

 

[Rob Monster]

This is why I asked, because this was always confusing. Instead of answering, you said go read the fine print. I did, it says:

"Thereafter, so long as the Forever Domain remains registered at Epik, Epik shall annually renew said domain for 1 additional year, provided the TLD registry in question allows the expiration date to be extended that far."

You just said 10 years. "In the unlikely event that Epik ceased to exist, then the domains would have been registered for 10 years."

Somebody pays the $399 today. Is it regged for 10 years like you just said or does it annually renew for 1 year, what your fine print says?

It renews annually -- so in the unlikely scenario that Epik ceased to exist, the domain would have been pre-paid for the next 10 years.

I am sorry man but:

 

[JB Lions]

It renews annually -- so in the unlikely scenario that Epik ceased to exist, the domain would have been pre-paid for the next 10 years.

I am sorry man but:

I thought it was prepaid forever? Is money refunded?

 

[Rob Monster]

I thought it was prepaid forever?

It is prepaid by the customer forever.

The registries only allow 10 years at a time. So we renew for 10 years and then on the anniversary, renew another year.

The customer never pays another dime. Zero.

Even if the registry goes up, they are either (1) fully insulated from that increase OR (2) we refund them their purchase.

It is not complicated. The genius is in its simplicity.

We are also selling Forever Armored.net data plans. You can buy 1 TB Forever for $149. Marketing pages will be added next week but pre-sell has been great.

 

[Dream Domains]

JB Lions,

It's constantly renewed to the maximum.

 

[oldtimer]

“ Epik shall renew the Forever Domain for the maximum period permitted by the applicable domain registry that governs said domain (e.g. .COM). “


This is not that hard to understand, Epik will renew the newly registered domain for the max number of years allowed which as we all know is 10 years for .com and then renew it one year at a time after that, the domain will always have 10 years safety net for expiration. Am I not right.

I am not saying that I want to do any forever registration, just that I understand what it is about.

@Rob Monster , perhaps you can mention the "10 years" in there somewhere as an example for new .com registrations and adjusted to bring the total number of years left on the domain to "10 years" for transfers.

 

[Mister Funsky]

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[frank-germany]

I did, so how does this make sense for a domainer?

"Thereafter, so long as the Forever Domain remains registered at Epik, Epik shall annually renew said domain for 1 additional year, provided the TLD registry in question allows the expiration date to be extended that far."

So pay $399, so you can renew once a year or..........

Just set a domain to auto-renew each year, for me would be $8.47.

It says if it goes to another registrar, "Epik shall be released from any and all obligations associated with said domain"

Unless I missed it, what happens if you go out of business? The forever registration doesn't transfer to another registrar.

just put the $399 USD * x domains
into a high dividend-paying stock with proven payouts over multiple years
and set the domain on auto-renew paid by dividends

that's what Rob does anyway
( or similar )

 

[frank-germany]

 

[frank-germany]

“ Epik shall renew the Forever Domain for the maximum period permitted by the applicable domain registry that governs said domain (e.g. .COM). “


This is not that hard to understand, Epik will renew the newly registered domain for the max number of years allowed which as we all know is 10 years for .com and then renew it one year at a time after that, the domain will always have 10 years safety net for expiration. Am I not right.

I am not saying that I want to do any forever registration, just that I understand what it is about.

@Rob Monster , perhaps you can mention the "10 years" in there somewhere as an example for new .com registrations and adjusted to bring the total number of years left on the domain to "10 years" for transfers.

they didn't say that they keep the 10 years up
but they said that they renew 1 year by 1 year
after the 10 years have past

- at least that s what I understood
when I read it firstly

I can't find the details no more

 

[frank-germany]

It says if it goes to another registrar, "Epik shall be released from any and all obligations associated with said domain"

Unless I missed it, what happens if you go out of business? The forever registration doesn't transfer to another registrar.

what happens, in case epik goes out of business?

the domain will be taken over to another registrar
and epik is no longer owing you anything
as quoted above

 

[Dream Domains]

If Epik goes out of business, you probably loose your investment.

If your dividend stocks goes to zero, you loose your investment.

But does it worth the risk? We think it does!

 

[Dream Domains]

just put the $399 USD * x domains
into a high dividend-paying stock with proven payouts over multiple years
and set the domain on auto-renew paid by dividends

that's what Rob does anyway
( or similar )

What if your auto renewal fails?

 

[frank-germany]

If Epik goes out of business, you probably loose your investment.

If your dividend stocks goes to zero, you loose your investment.

But does it worth the risk? We think it does!

buy coca-cola
( no investment advise - just an idea )
it won't go to ZERO
because of cola zero sugar

 

[frank-germany]

What if your auto renewal fails?

renew it manually

get a 10 year renewal
after 1 year switch to another registar
renew for another 10 years

so you are at 19 years
next year add 1 year manually

now you spend about $200 USD max
half of epik "forever domain"

relax

after 20 years
have a look
what artificial intelligence has done meanwhile

decide if you still want that name

 

[oldtimer]

@Rob Monster is not charging $2500 for forever .coms , it's just $399 which sounds reasonable for those who want to have peace of mind about not losing their most important or valuable domains. It might not make too much sense for the average domainer to do forever domains, but it seems like a good option that domainers can offer on their landing pages. What makes all the difference here is the price which sounds very reasonable for those whom their whole livelihood depends on not losing their domain. IMO

 

[Dream Domains]

buy coca-cola
( no investment advise - just an idea )
it won't go to ZERO
because of cola zero sugar

This is what some people thought of Enron, WorldCom and many DotCom stocks.