news Dan.com to increase comission from 9% to 15% effective Feb 1st 2023

[MadAboutDomains]

Just received this email from Dan.com about commission increases (snippet of email):

Thoughts?

 

[Sutruk]

Domains pointed to Nameservers at Uniregistry Market, Afternic or Dan, are charged a flat 15% of Sale Price regardless of where it sells whether on the Network or through the landers directly.

Domains not pointed to Nameservers at Uniregistry Market, Afternic, or Dan are charged the standard commission rate, which is a flat 25% of Sale Price

Now compare it to manage your domain sale through Escrow.com. Just think about a sale over $25K, how much would they charge... at Afternic compared to Escrow.com

https://www.escrow.com/fee-calculator

Fees for transactions in US Dollars​

Transaction Amount (Merchandise + Shipping)	Standard	Concierge	Payment Processing Fee
$0-$5,000	3.25% ($10.00 minimum)	6.5% ($100.00 minimum)	Standard or Concierge fee + 3.05%
$5,000.01-$25,000	$162.50 + 0.26% of amount over $5000	$325 + 0.52% of amount over $5000	Not available
$25,000.01 +	0.89%	1.78%	Not available

 

[VadimK]

• 25% commission for domains sold that are not pointed to nameservers at Dan, Afternic, or Uniregistry.

LOL

Shit, to Epik ????

 

[twiki]

Domains pointed to Nameservers at Uniregistry Market, Afternic or Dan, are charged a flat 15% of Sale Price regardless of where it sells whether on the Network or through the landers directly.

Domains not pointed to Nameservers at Uniregistry Market, Afternic, or Dan are charged the standard commission rate, which is a flat 25% of Sale Price

Power move.

 

[Ostrados]

Dynadot.com 5%
Namesilo.com 7,5%
SH White Label MP 7,5%

But now there is 25% penalty at Afternic if you do that lol

Bad news for SH users.

GD cornered SH here.

 

[JB Lions]

So

1. You increased Dan commission to 15%
2. You increased Afternic commission to flat 15%
3. You increased Afternic commission for non-Godaddy landers to 25%

Wow good job in screwing up the whole domainers community

Actually, the Afternic decreased from 20% to 15%.

I'm actually not too torn up about this. While I don't like increases, I think 15% is actually pretty fair. 9% was real nice but an increase was not unexpected. I'll just keep that in mind when it comes to pricing.

All my domains are either Afternic/Dan landing pages and now with the distribution network, that goes down from 20% to 15%.

I understand those that don't have those landing pages will now go up to 25% if I'm reading that correctly. That's just their way to move people over to their platform, to get that 15% instead of 25%.

I'm still paying for Efty, so I could always switch it back to those landing pages in the future. But right now I like the ease and reach of Dan/Afternic.

 

[Dane]

I haven't used escrow.com since starting with dan.com. BUT...

 

[Sutruk]

Actually, the Afternic decreased from 20% to 15%.

Not really. Look at domains over $25K.

https://www.afternic.com/sell-domains

It was $4,000 +10% of amount over $25k.

Now it's a flat $15, even for a $100K sale... oops

(At Escrow.com it's 0.89% of amount over $25K. Even the 1.78% of concierge service makes sense).
https://www.escrow.com/fee-calculator

 

[Nuno Casimiro]

But now there is 25% penalty at Afternic if you do that lol

Bad news for SH users.

GD cornered SH here.

I agree, and BB to
I dont have my SH domains in Afternic, only Sedo. Less work to do, and the sales happen anyway

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Current status as of Jan 4 2023, info from over 1,200 TLD zonefiles.

Number of domains using Afternic nameservers
NS1 & NS2 - 302K
NS3 & NS4 - 572K
NS5 & NS6 - 527K

So basically, they appear to have 1.4 million domains pointing to Afternic. But their website lists that they have 22 million listings.

So at this point, increasing the commission from 20 to 25% would increase costs potentially for the 20 million domains not pointing to them.

Should be curious to see if many more landers now start showing up, in order to get that 15% commission.

 

[JB Lions]

Not really. Look at domains over $25K.

https://www.afternic.com/sell-domains

It was $4,000 +10% of amount over $25k.

Now it's a flat $15, even for a $100K sale... oops

(At Escrow.com it's 0.89% of amount over $25K. Even the 1.78% of concierge service makes sense).
https://www.escrow.com/fee-calculator

You're linking to old page, I'm talking about what takes affect Feb 1. Email says:

On February 1, 2023, the following commission structure will go into effect.

• 15% commission for domains sold that are pointed to nameservers at Dan, Afternic, or Uniregistry; regardless of where it sells on the network or through the landers directly.

I could be missing it but where do you see 20% after Feb 1?

 

[Lox]

Yes. The new structure will be a flat 15% or 25% depending on where nameservers are pointed at the time of sale, regardless of price.

If domain is not pointing to any name servers (null NS). … what’s the % ?

 

[tonyk2000]

Punishing registrar-powered marketplaces (Dynadot, Namesilo, Porkbun...)? Punishing BODIS for providing built-in forsale banners, including godaddy-afternic ones?

Noncompetitive!​

Parking the domain with registrar-powered marketplace AND enabling afternic was always a good option.
Parking the domain with bodis + forsale link was always a good option.
Saying nothing about hard-working sellers who bothered to host own landing pages, in many cases still sending traffic to afternic (to the same destination as ns5/ns6 provides for example).

Btw, they are also punishing sellers who use own dns (or cloudflare dns) to deliver all visitors to DAN, as DAN dns works slow sometimes. They are also punishing sellers who use similar scheme to deliver the traffic to godaddy .com / forsale / domain .com via own hosting+DNS - as ns5/ns6 afternic does not support httpS forwarding and provides zero stats. Maybe Afternic should fix all the lander/dns issues first?

 

[SuperBrander]

Needless to say- really bad move by Godaddy. The fact that in their example of how sellers will "benefit" they used the wrong commission % (stating that it's a 20% commission for $60K/40K sales when in fact the commission is currently $4000 + 10% for sales over $25K) is quite amusing. Plus, choosing specific prices to demonstrate improvement when changing them with other prices will demonstrate that sellers will be losing money. SMH.

25% commission unless you have a GD/Afternic/Dan.com landing page is also ridiculous, especially for high priced domains. Domains that are listed at SH and BB also require an extra commission paid to those marketplaces, so the total commission will become even worse. I hope Godaddy will reconsider and make some changes to the current plan, because they'll be losing a lot of business.

I'll likely get back to Efty and only use make offer at Afternic.

Too bad about Dan.com. Such a great platform.

 

[Sutruk]

You're linking to old page, I'm talking about what takes affect Feb 1. Email says:

On February 1, 2023, the following commission structure will go into effect.

• 15% commission for domains sold that are pointed to nameservers at Dan, Afternic, or Uniregistry; regardless of where it sells on the network or through the landers directly.

Yes, I know. It shows you that before, you had to pay less for a sale over $25K than you have to pay now...

 

[Future Sensors]

25% flat commission for fast transfer

This 25% is for domains not using any of the nameservers listed on https://www.afternic.com/sales-acceleration

Afternic Fast Transfer (Premium Network) will still be 15% in the new structure, as long as you're using nameservers listed there.

(at least this is my interpretation - @James Iles is this correct?)

 

[Dane]

...and only use make offer at Afternic.

How is this done? How can we set all names on Afternic to Make Offer only?

 

[JB Lions]

Yes, I know. It shows you that before, you had to pay less for a sale over $25K than you have to pay now...

Ah ok, I see what you're saying now.

$100,000 sale
before would be $14,000 - 10% (10,000) plus $4,000
now it would be $15,000 - 15% of 10,000

 

[NickB]

I've had all my domains at make offer on Atternic for a while now - will now completely remove them as I am not paying 25% for their services......

Been using DAN but will now remove my domains and use Sedo landers with BIN - had a few of my .org pointing there for a bit now and it seems OK to me.

I only have one domain with Godaddy and that's for my website

I have not put my SquadHelp domains onto the Afternic network and have no intention of doing so......

Time for me personally to break away from this shitty monopoly.......

 

[Sutruk]

This 25% is for domains not using any of the nameservers listed on https://www.afternic.com/sales-acceleration

Afternic Fast Transfer will be 15% in the new structure, as long as you're using nameservers listed there.

They want to eliminate any kind of competition. I wonder what kind of move is this one, when you want to be a monopoly and punish your users in their fees commission when you are using a competitor's landing page.

 

[davidc1]

1) It's now 25% commission with dan through bodis ?
2) It's now 25% commission on afternic+dan for expiring domains as registrar change automatically dns ?

For 1) I can manage the lead myself and import it to dan
For 2) I have no option as sales are made with afternic and dns are not choosed by me (i make a few sales like that per month)