CPU Overheating - Brand new.... GGGGRRRR!

[yeppers]

Rhett's angry.... very angry....

Just got a new computer a month ago or so, now the CPU is overheating, bah!

The specs:

Intel P4 630 64-bit 3.0 Ghz 800mghz HT
1GB ram
CoolerMaster case (misleading name lol)
Asus Nvidia 6600 256DDR
Sony DVD Burner
2x160gb hdd's
17" LCD
7.1 sound
And all the rest of it...

The MAX CPU temperature for this model is pretty low - 64.C

I have no idea how it's overheating, the heat sink is attatched properly afaik (I didn't install it, the makers did), its very hot when I touch it, so I'd say it's still attatched. There's 4 fans in the system, 1 BAHEMETH fan at the back, one in the power box, one on the cpu and one covering the HDD's.

Whenever I do anything that needs a fair bit of processing power (encode video, play game) after around 20 minutes it has to go off, otherwise it will crash.

I've tested the temperature in BIOS and using various different Windows-based temperature monitors and all show the same temperatures, so I don't think that the temperature thing is faulty or something.

I'm pretty sure the 600 64-Bit series was near the first of the Intel 64-bit range so maybe that's why?

I took the PC to a computer repair shop, and because they're bastards they said that its not overheating, and that the RAM wasn't in properly.... THEY WERE WRONG!

WHAT DO I DO!?!?

Anyone have any suggestions, all appreciated.

Thanks, Rhett.

 

[weblord]

well im sorry to know this predicament of yours as your work horse is failing you, try another computer shop and this time stay more than 20 minutes for them to see, where do you buy it? it's the first place to approach, after 20 minutes they can "touch" the proof.

 

[yeppers]

after 20 minutes they can "touch" the proof.

Hehe,

Yer I suppose I'll have to just take it to another store. The place I bought it from is in Sydney, around 600KM's from here lol, so it's kind of hard to get to them .

But I won't be going back to the other computer shop again, you'd think that they would take the initiative in running it for 20 minutes or so without the CPI udling, goes to show which stores suck.

Thanks weblord .

Anyone know what the problem could be though, ever had experience with this CPU anyone?

Thanks, Rhett.

 

[yeppers]

Its intel, what do you expect? :td: Get AMD, they are much much better.

- Don't want to start a riot... BUTTT...

lol, Just with my experience with AMDs I've always had cpu's getting fried, all the intels ive had have been fine until this one . But AMD's still good, at the moment im starting to think so anyway :D

 

[Flubber]

Seems like a pretty common problem, well, one post - But..

http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3050

No problems except for the overheating ( thses things are nukes )

Is the base unit in a well ventilated area? EG. not in a cupboard, with the wires leading out the back to the monitor on your desk? (My Friend does this, 'Heats up my clothes')

Flubb

 

[mis_chiff]

I had the same thing happen with mine, I used
winbound hwdoctor and it kept telling me I was overheating
so it kept crashing.
I actually had to replace the power supply
now it tells me that the system fan is low speed?
but my overheating and crashing has stopped...
and the computer works fine except when I
click the sys is configuration, I would never even see the
message.
hope this helped

 

[{insert name here}]

well, you really really need to make sure the heatsink is on properly and securly on the board, and that you have sillicon apoxy on between them, 99.9% of the time, you cpu overheats because the heatsink is not on properly or fully.

 

[yeppers]

Hello all!

Enjoying my AMD 64 3800+ Dual Core. I have been using AMD for the last 5 years and no problems.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

Wish I had that beast!

Seems like a pretty common problem, well, one post - But..

http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3050

No problems except for the overheating ( thses things are nukes )

Is the base unit in a well ventilated area? EG. not in a cupboard, with the wires leading out the back to the monitor on your desk? (My Friend does this, 'Heats up my clothes')

Flubb

Yep its sitting on a desk in my room, which is well ventelated, right next to a window.

What powersupply do you have? Your going to need at least a 400w to run it..

Got a 380W power box.

I had the same thing happen with mine, I used
winbound hwdoctor and it kept telling me I was overheating
so it kept crashing.
I actually had to replace the power supply
now it tells me that the system fan is low speed?
but my overheating and crashing has stopped...
and the computer works fine except when I
click the sys is configuration, I would never even see the
message.
hope this helped

Hey mis_chiff, thanks I'll see if I have a spare power box somewhere thats suitable :D

well, you really really need to make sure the heatsink is on properly and securly on the board, and that you have sillicon apoxy on between them, 99.9% of the time, you cpu overheats because the heatsink is not on properly or fully.

I thought that, but if I pull the CPU away, then I'll have to get new apoxy for it, so I'll give it a go I suppose, hope I don't break it lol, I'll get some apoxy first (if its not expensive ).

Thanks everyone for your tips! Rep added to all of you that I could :tu:

 

[Brian]

are they smart fans? IF so make sure you have the settings for them done correctly, maybe evne try running 1/2 of them at 3/4 or full speed all the time.

Its intel, what do you expect? :td: Get AMD, they are much much better.

AMD's always run hotter than intels though, thats how I keep warm in the winter, just make sure both boxes in my room are on haha.

 

[ammo]

Should have gone AMD! :D But maybe your fans not working correctly and as Brian said it could be running slow. I used to have a thermaltake one that had to be set up at the right speed maybe its a similar thing.

AMD's always run hotter than intels though, thats how I keep warm in the winter, just make sure both boxes in my room are on haha.

Ha ha, I do the very same thing, I have a test server setup for linux, Its a dual Slot A AMD 1ghz both of them get sooo hot I just take the lid of and it warms the room up in minutes.

 

[msfedxx]

keep us posted

 

[yeppers]

Hey all,

I do have smartfans yes, and they only start to rev up when the CPU is overheating already, not when its about to.

At any time the CPU's fan is running at 1,400 RPM, is that slow? I have a program that analyzes the system and is saying "WARNING: CPU fan is running at 1,400 RPM" but doesn't say whether or not that is fast or slow lol.

Thanks all!
Rhett.

Aha!

Just did some research, may have found the problem :o.

Looks like EVERYBODY is having heat issues, and most of them due to the smart fans running only between 1300 and 1800 by default, so after a long look around apparently I can change it to run between around 1800 and 3000 and that oughta do the trick, hope so!

Gonna try it now, so I'll be back soon :D Thanks for your help everyone

 

[Brian]

Yeah, you really need to play with the smart fans and set them to different speeds depending on the temp.

I keep one of my smart fans running full speed all the time, the others hardly ever come on then

 

[yeppers]

Well, the only thing I can do is set my cpu smart fan to enabled or disabled, and if enabled change the settings to one of these: 'PMW', 'Voltage', or 'Auto'.

So I just disabled it which took the RPM from ~1400 to 2500. The CPU runs around 5 degrees colder, but when I run the CPU at 100% usage for around 20 minutes it still sits at 62 degrees, which is within its limit, but not far from it!

Is it possible to snatch a program that can manually set cpu fan speeds?

Thanks all,
Rhett.