Contacting end users - My emails marked as spam

[and5rey]

I'm going to start sending some emails to potential end users that might be interested in buying my domain, but I'm afraid that my emails will be marked as spam.

Is there any way to not make my email marked as spam? What can I do to avoid this?

 

[cocaseco]

Well apparently you know everything about development, advertising, and selling. Congrats, bro.

You are just now learning that? I knew what was coming as soon as you shared a different opinion.

 

[877PAGE101]

I know how to fly.

Good for you.

Let's see I created a theoretical 90 bit/byte OS based on decagon bytes of data that will create 10 dimensional computer systems once humans figure out how to create such a processor way back when.

In fact I hold dozens of international patents on pretty much the future of AI, you can't do jack in AI without infringing upon what I theorized decades ago.

 

[S-B]

Good for you.

Let's see I created a theoretical 90 bit/byte OS based on decagon bytes of data that will create 10 dimensional computer systems once humans figure out how to create such a processor way back when.

In fact I hold dozens of international patents on pretty much the future of AI, you can't do jack in AI without infringing upon what I theorized decades ago.

I'm a ghost.

 

[877PAGE101]

You are just now learning that? I knew what was coming as soon as you shared a different opinion.

just go to the site he suggested complete ripoff for data

like I said what do I know about data?

google

1 LEADS

#1 Leads company

who do you see?

ME

so let's just say I'm an AUTHORITY on leads data and for anyone to steer people to zoom is harming them IMO

 

[877PAGE101]

I'm a ghost.

so what alphabet agency you work for

I know lots of spooks, one of my companies taught all the spooks how to track hackers

 

[JB Lions]

just go to the site he suggested complete ripoff for data

like I said what do I know about data?

google

1 LEADS

#1 Leads company

who do you see?

ME

so let's just say I'm an AUTHORITY on leads data and for anyone to steer people to zoom is harming them IMO

Are you serious? You actually posted that to impress somebody, ranking for a phrase nobody searches for? Who searches for "1 leads" ? Tried a page on your site, plumber leads, where are you ranking for that? Unless I missed it, I gave up after 10 pages searching Google and MSN/Yahoo.

 

[S-B]

Are you serious? You actually posted that to impress somebody, ranking for a phrase nobody searches for? Who searches for "1 leads" ? Tried a page on your site, plumber leads, where are you ranking for that?

But hell look at that web design. Smexy.

 

[877PAGE101]

lots of companies look for #1 leads industry

#1 roofer leads

#1 lawyer leads

etc

anyway, the point is WE SELL leads data in small packets since the 2 big data providers want 2000 bucks from a new client, so we created a solution for small companies 100 targeted leads 100 bucks

so yeah, I KNOW THE LEADS DATABASES and anyone saying they collate their data from the net is a BS data supplier

Hoover run by Dun and Brad Street excellent data for leads

SG has pretty much the same data at half the cost

1 Leads has a division that we don't really promote selling small lead data packages for 100 leads for 100 bucks

I hate the word 'leads'

I hate every lead we get from anyone looking for 'leads'

I wish I never bought the name

I'm a portal developer, and two words that we throw away leads on are

seo
leads

Our core business is SEM

That's all that works today

The SE's know what they got, 70% of traffic today in USA is on smart phones, look up anything

Lawyer
Plastic Surgeon
Dentist
Used Cars
Loans
whatever

what do you see

TWO PPC ADS

that's what you NEED today and when a company comes looking for leads, they're unhappy with some BS outfit like homeadvisor, a headache company they end up being

some company comes for seo, you say look at your iphone for what you do, you see organic seo? NO

so why do you want it

YOU NEED top 2 ads ppc on iphone/android

That's what I do

I MAKE COMPANIES PHONES RING

Why?

I understand where traffic comes from today, all companies that control those 2 ad spots on smart phones with high response content and good product/services are hot companies

The rest is BS

PS
The web design you don't like converts at 25% response ratios

Same design for my legal sites gets a whopping 50% conversion ratio

We design to convert traffic

Move on little children, none of you have authority on this topic and none of you have a clue as to what converts and what matters today on the net.

YOU NEED AN INDUSTRY KEYWORD to take control of the top spot on smart phones PERIOD

If you have an INDUSTRY KEYWORD you need to call the end users in that industry as I advised

The best way to do it is try a FREE 3 Day Trial as I SAID

Then some people started talking about garbage like Zoom

and now they want to mock sites that are the top converting companies for leads

haha

READ MY WORDS

THEY ARE PRICELESS

 

[JB Lions]

lots of companies look for #1 leads industry

#1 roofer leads

#1 lawyer leads

etc

Just out of curiosity, I checked. I get dashes for those terms - - So nobody searches for that.

roofer leads gets 30 exact a month. I gave up after 10 pages on that one as well. You were on page 1 for "#1 roofer leads" in the tenth spot but according to GKT, again, no searches.

 

[cocaseco]

so let's just say I'm an AUTHORITY on leads data and for anyone to steer people to zoom is harming them IMO

A legend in your own mind.

I think the problem people have is that you have no humility. Doesn't matter if you are 100% right, if people don't have any respect for you.

 

[nomen]

@877PAGE101 So you went from creating some super advanced AI stuff to doing SEM? That is... Odd.

 

[877PAGE101]

Just out of curiosity, I checked. I get dashes for those terms - - So nobody searches for that.

roofer leads gets 30 exact a month. I gave up after 10 pages on that one as well. You were on page 1 for "#1 roofer leads" in the tenth spot but according to GKT, again, no searches.

LOL

My reps use SG all day to do one thing

They call the cities we have openings for

Their pitch is real simple

YOU WANT THE #1 SPOT on our iphone for

Car Accident Lawyer
Drug Lawyer
Criminal Lawyer
Commercial Roofing


That's the only areas we actually LOOK for clients in and WE CALL THEM

That is more productive than having morons calling you

And my reps exclude 90% of companies with SG

They only call the partners of major firms and SG gives them the info

5% of law firms can afford to be #1 on ppc in their market

THEY ARE NOT LOOKING

Now 7 years ago before I LEARNED that fact and I bought the top of major law portals with banners and the top of the biggest state bar sites, I wasted a ton of dough BUYING the top spots where lawyers are and 99% of them were too small

I could less where my serps are for what I do

my clients are not looking for leads or seo or sem

The small nobody firms are

Got it?

So why should I put my resources on organic seo now for what you are looking for?

It doesn't produce clients

GOOD OLD TARGET AND QUALIFIED TM WORKS

So I'm just doing now what I did in the 1980's and 1990's

USING TM to target the big players in a few industries

Commercial roofing big money there
PIA terms BIG MONEY there average PIA budget today is 50K plus a month

NONE OF THE CLIENTS for that are looking on Google

It's why we're dumping a bunch of SEOgeo.com/net in auctions here

Go to auctions for years we had a ton of sites and for a long time they were #1 and guess what the leads that work produced was garbage

THE REASON IS

If you want to help a client today all that matters is AD #1 on a smart phone

PERIOD

Now I can buy that easily for any term I want and you know what the leads are companies that are too small

So where do we find our clients?

THE SAME WAY I TOLD THE OP TO LOOK

TM targeted QUALIFIED end users

That's what we do now and I have tons of happy clients

NOT ONE FOUND ME on google

I FOUND THEM using the tool (SG) that I suggested

Like I said

I SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY on leads and the net and ppc and what works

 

[S-B]

LOL

My reps use SG all day to do one thing

They call the cities we have openings for

Their pitch is real simple

YOU WANT THE #1 SPOT on our iphone for

Car Accident Lawyer
Drug Lawyer
Criminal Lawyer
Commercial Roofing


That's the only areas we actually LOOK for clients in and WE CALL THEM

That is more productive than having morons calling you

And my reps exclude 90% of companies with SG

They only call the partners of major firms and SG gives them the info

5% of law firms can afford to be #1 on ppc in their market

THEY ARE NOT LOOKING

Now 7 years ago before I LEARNED that fact and I bought the top of major law portals with banners and the top of the biggest state bar sites, I wasted a ton of dough BUYING the top spots where lawyers are and 99% of them were too small

I could less where my serps are for what I do

my clients are not looking for leads or seo or sem

The small nobody firms are

Got it?

So why should I put my resources on organic seo now for what you are looking for?

It doesn't produce clients

GOOD OLD TARGET AND QUALIFIED TM WORKS

So I'm just doing now what I did in the 1980's and 1990's

USING TM to target the big players in a few industries

Commercial roofing big money there
PIA terms BIG MONEY there average PIA budget today is 50K plus a month

NONE OF THE CLIENTS for that are looking on Google

It's why we're dumping a bunch of SEOgeo.com/net in auctions here

Go to auctions for years we had a ton of sites and for a long time they were #1 and guess what the leads that work produced was garbage

THE REASON IS

If you want to help a client today all that matters is AD #1 on a smart phone

PERIOD

Now I can buy that easily for any term I want and you know what the leads are companies that are too small

So where do we find our clients?

THE SAME WAY I TOLD THE OP TO LOOK

TM targeted QUALIFIED end users

That's what we do now and I have tons of happy clients

NOT ONE FOUND ME on google

I FOUND THEM using the tool (SG) that I suggested

Like I said

I SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY on leads and the net and ppc and what works

TLDR

 

[877PAGE101]

@877PAGE101 So you went from creating some super advanced AI stuff to doing SEM? That is... Odd.

Yep I theorized 6th and 10th dimensional AI OS theory in mid 1970's in an Ivy league THINK TANK when I was 15

Founded my first tech company at 16

Sold a huge network contract at 17 for over 250K

The rest is history

Oh decades ago I theorized 30Mod prime theory and now decades later they put my theory on Pyton and guess what it was the fastest prime number generator in history, the first algorithm to beat the old Greek Eratosthenes Sieve

#1 spots
1 leads

https://www.google.com/search?q=1+leads

1 Leads Company

2 of top 3 spots, used to be top 2 spots but Google now prefers bs on wiki

haha

Oh we're #1 on smartphone search

https://www.google.com/search?q=1+leads+company

#1 Leads Company
Top 2 position

https://www.google.com/search?q=1+leads+company

 

[DomainVP]

To answer the original question. I use gMail to contact people, and I have a pretty decent open rate of 70%-75%. I am using Streak to track eMails and I just use very targeted lead research that I do on both Bing and Google. Response rate however is 5% - 10%, although I do see that my eMail gets opened 7 - 15 times by those that do open it.

To avoid spam flags I very rarely use the exact domain in the eMail.

Meaning, if I am taking bout ShoeDoctor.com I will refer to it as ShoeDoctor, in the .COM namespace, and then only use ShoeDoctor in the message when talking about the domain. I also put the domain keywords in the title of the eMail "Shoe Doctor".

I stay away from spammy words and terms, and keep the message short.

That's all for today, have a great day everyone!

 

[cmdomains]

^Do you actually only put 'Shoe Doctor' for title subject? Have you tried, say, "Shoe doctor name on sale at reputable marketplace", or along that line.

 

[877PAGE101]

Like I said originally

THE BEST WAY TO SELL A DOMAIN

IS DIRECT CONTACT WITH END USERS

I prefer targeted TM with my reps and they use what I told OP to use

SG which you can get for free 3 day trial

unsolicited email is SPAM and no one gets 75% open rates

but IF you think you do, great

you want to sell a premium domain you go use SG for free for 3 days and learn how to QUALIFY the owners by

Industry
Employees size
Sales Volume
Biz credit rating
CEO/Owners only

That gets anyone qualified targeted END USERS that can buy a domain at an EU price

Unsolicited email is SPAM you do it you get caught eventually

 

[DomainVP]

^Do you actually only put 'Shoe Doctor' for title subject? Have you tried, say, "Shoe doctor name on sale at reputable marketplace, or along that line.

I see that subject line in so many spam eMails, someone must have advised that somewhere; it's horrible. I would not go that route because it sounds spammy, and the recipient would know what the message is about right then and there.

If I have done my lead research right, the intended recipient has an interest in the name "Shoe Doctor"; it is what they call their business or what they refer to themselves as. So when they see that, it's enough to open the eMail.

With all sales you want to walk someone through a 'process'. If your lead deletes the email upon reading the subject, then they don't get to go through your process at all and miss your trigger words to motivate the sale.

In my opinion using the term "reputable marketplace" is like when someone tells you, "look I'm being honest here." It brings into thought that there are dishonest marketplaces, and it's not even a topic that needs to be discussed during the sale.

What To Include In an eMail:
1. Who you are
2. the domain
3. considering it's sale
4. One brief selling point
5. create a light sense of urgency
6. let's talk about it.

That's it. However you would like to word it is up to you, but that's all that should be in any message, and should take no more than 20 - 30 seconds to read.

 

[cmdomains]

^I did read on the longer thread (contacting endusers) that some directly put their intent on subject line (or half the idea what email's about) but yours is a useful perspective. I haven't contacted endusers and looks like I will have to try different approaches.

 

[DomainVP]

unsolicited email is SPAM and no one gets 75% open rates

but IF you think you do, great

you want to sell a premium domain you go use SG for free for 3 days and learn how to QUALIFY the owners by

Industry
Employees size
Sales Volume
Biz credit rating
CEO/Owners only

well my open rate is 75%, I'm not sending bulk UCE to some eMail list I'm sending a b2b email contacting very qualified points of contact.

If I eMail 4 people about a specific domain, 3 will definitely open if not all of them - and I make sure that those are the 4 best people to contact about the domain.

You don't need Sales Genie for anything, if you cant qualify a business via Google or Bing then they aren't worth your time; regardless of employee size or sales volume. If a business isn't online, then it's highly likely they aren't even going to understand a domain acquisition for the price you are looking for.

 

[DomainVP]

I haven't contacted endusers and looks like I will have to try different approaches.

If you don't mind waiting for a sale then you can just kick your feet up and someone might approach to you eventually, but if you want to keep sales coming in you must start contacting potential end users.

Most of my sales have been through outreach. It will only benefit you.

 

[877PAGE101]

If you don't mind waiting for a sale then you can just kick your feet up and someone might approach to you eventually, but if you want to keep sales coming in you must start contacting potential end users.

Most of my sales have been through outreach. It will only benefit you.

that's the only thing you said that is valid

the rest is PUSHING SPAM through whois

learn to use GD and you will find every call you make is to a qualified owner that can give you more than some low end tech guy on a whois

but then I doubt you have any industry keywords

 

[Joshdns]

If you don't mind waiting for a sale then you can just kick your feet up and someone might approach to you eventually, but if you want to keep sales coming in you must start contacting potential end users.

Most of my sales have been through outreach. It will only benefit you.

Do you also use free email like gmail for your outbound mails?

 

[Joshdns]

If you don't mind waiting for a sale then you can just kick your feet up and someone might approach to you eventually, but if you want to keep sales coming in you must start contacting potential end users.

Most of my sales have been through outreach. It will only benefit you.

Do you also use free email like gmail for your outbound mails?

 

[cocaseco]

You're the only one talking about whois eMail broski - the only one.

All social marketers are so behind the times... please tell us more about Twitter and how you are using it to not convert sales.

You've never sold a business.

No the rest of us are too. You may have missed it because you were to busy telling us how great you are. Frankly selling domains is not the same as selling shoes. Many of my customers fall into two groups, both very easily reached through simple social media. Neither are overly sophisticated, so it works fine. As for Twitter, I probably sell a domain every 2 to 3 weeks where the lead came directly from Twitter. I'm not sure what part of Twitter you didn't understand, but I'll take the time and explain it all.

Twitter Strategy:

I send out a Tweet announcing a new name, or at least a name I haven't tweeted about recently if its an old name. I Tweet exactly 6 times a day on autopilot, and occasionally throw another in manually. Now here is where it gets tricky. The reader sees the domain and says to themselves, "damm that's a good name, it's exactly what i have been looking for". Then he replies back to me and the negotiation starts.

Hopefully you followed that, its pretty obscure and dry. Also, to be clear I am NOT the worlds best at anything related to the Internet. In fact how I have managed to be successful is a mystery compared to your knowledge. Anyway, that's how I use Social Media to sell domains. As with everything I post, feel free to use it exactly as I do, or change it up to match your own goals and strengths.

I'm here to help you.