Buyer Wants To Buy My Domains - $270,000

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  1. hmdotcom

    hmdotcom Established Member

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    Hi,

    Im domainer, not a newbie, but a buyer has emailed me to buy my domains for $270,000, and I would appreciate your advice please.

    Two days ago, I registered 5 domains, and listed them on Sedo. I cant talk about the buyer or my domains due to the nature of the deal, but what I can say about my domains is two small things:

    1. $50,000 domains are .com, include a keyword, and have additional extra(s). Quite good.

    2. $20,000 domain is .com, include a keyword, has a hyphen, and has additional extras.

    What I can say about the buyer is two small things:

    1. He's company is a web hosting company. It appears in Google and seems to be a real working website.

    2. He is the CEO.


    The buyer said he is interested in my domain and asked me to send a list of my other domains.


    Here is the actual email I received from the buyer two days ago:

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    > Hello!
    >
    > I'm very interested in purchasing xxxxxxxxxxx.com (cant say).
    >
    > I found it listed for sale.
    >
    > Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).
    >
    > If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > XXXX XXXXXXXXX
    >
    > CEO
    >
    > Web Hosting XXXXXXXXX XXXX
    >

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    The buyer is interested to buy 5 domains at $50,000 each and 1 domain at $20,000. Total, $270,000.

    He said the price is ok. He has a budget of $1,750,000 and wants to buy 20-30 domains.

    After I received the ok about buying my domains, he asked for two small things.

    Here is his actual email he sent to me:

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    Ok. Before we go further I will ask about two small things:

    1. We both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

    2. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. You should not worry about it. You don't need to pay for this trademark verification service. Some good appraisers include this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    seven-forums.net/Archive/9412703853.htm

    Most of experts recommend official ICAAN appraisal service. The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the official ICAAN appraisal site and order the valuation. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.

    Best regards,

    XXXX XXXXX

    CEO

    Web Hosting XXX XXXX

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    Here domain appraisal company the forum members suggested to him was: no_url_shorteners/icaaninfo

    I also think that the buyer may be using no_url_shorteners/.icaaninfo because he knows them and/or will get a lower appraisal of my domains and save alot of money because they give a low appraisal.


    Im worried that this could be a scam. The fact that he wants an appraisal now after agreeing to initial buy them at my suggested price, which I believe is 3X less than their actual or potential price.

    Also, I suggested domainappraisal.org - Used by Marc Ostrofsky, seller of Business.com for World Record $7.5 Million,


    Here is his actual email reply he sent to me:

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    I don';t know any domainappraisal.org and will not accept a service from a cheap unknown source. I need the official appraisal with a TM verification.

    You should obtain an official appraisal from the official source -
    no_url_shorteners/icaaninfo

    Then you send me the results and we go further.

    Best regards,
    XXXX XXXXXXXx
    CEO
    -------------------


    Furthermore, I asked that he send me the money to have the domains appraised. This was to establish if he was genuine, and he wasnt just selling domain appraisals with the domain appraisal company he was told about in the forum.

    Here is his actual email reply:

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    I never pay anything upfront. This is ridiculous.

    Best regards,
    XXXX XXXXXXX
    CEO

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    Please could you Post or PM IMMEDIATELY about whether I should do two things:

    1. Pay for the appraisal from no_url_shorteners/icaaninfo - and proceed with deal.

    2. Stick to my prices of $50,000 and $20,000 - and not risk an appraisal that may be lower. But it could kill the deal. However, if appraisal is higher, the buyer said he will pay more.

    Any other questions or advice you may have would be really appreciated.

    Thank you in advance for your help.
     
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  2. The Domain Wizard

    The Domain Wizard TheDomainWizard.com ★★★★★★★★★★

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    SCAM - Received similar emails.
     
  3. Keith

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    It's an appraisal scam.
     
  4. uswebdev

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  5. hmdotcom

    hmdotcom Established Member

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    Thanks. Thought so. Thanks.

    ---------- Post added at 08:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:00 PM ----------

    Thanks. Thought so. Thanks.

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    Thanks. Also thanks for the Icaan link. Thanks.
     
  6. maksimfa

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    You can tell from the language in the very first message...

    "Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency)."

    The "respond with a desired price".

    Most Americans will state it as...

    "Please respond with how much you are looking for." Desired is not one of those more commonly used phrases by native speakers.
     
  7. DomainIdiot

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    What is ICAAN?

    ICANN only think of what they may do.
     
  8. sanfran

    sanfran Account Closed

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  9. hmdotcom

    hmdotcom Established Member

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    Thanks. Yes I think the scammer is from Europe. Thanks.

    ---------- Post added at 10:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:41 PM ----------

    thanks
     
  10. biggie

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    :talk:

    the trick that works on newbies is....,some of them think they can hand reg some names one day, list them somewhere and then sell for $$$$$$.

    all logic is ignored, when a carrot floats by.

    :)
     
  11. Kate

    Kate Thinking inside the Box™ VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    $270,000 for a bunch of domains registered two days ago.

    Some people are really confident about the quality of their domains :blink:
     
  12. alunk

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    WARNING!! SCAM APPRAISAL DETECTED :laugh:

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    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing xxxxxx.xxx.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Abram Spiegelmann

    CEO

    Live Hosting LLC

    spiegelmann@live-host.org
    ***************************

    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.
     
  13. hmdotcom

    hmdotcom Established Member

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    Discovered domains in 1997 after studying Hyper Text Mark-up Language Programming, at the age of 19 years old!

    My names were listed on sedo - buy found them and came to me.

    ---------- Post added at 11:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 AM ----------

    Yep suspected too.

    ---------- Post added at 11:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 AM ----------

    saw one name similar to mine advertised on TV recently (never seen a name like that on tv before!) and another similar to that one sell for $7000 on Sedo, one month ago. My name for a specific industry is shorter, therefore potentially more valuable. Based on Also study Business Management, one understands that a business has to take advantage of all possibilities.
     
  14. mjnels

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    lol... what does this even mean?

    what does the language or being american have to do with anything?
     
  15. hmdotcom

    hmdotcom Established Member

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    I agree here too.
     
  16. -NC-

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    Spam often contains oddly constructed english.
     
  17. mjnels

    mjnels Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    well, ill let the brits correct you on that one. and still, what does the person not being american have to do with anything? just an odd statement to make being that we're on the internet.

    like, "hey watch out, they're not american" :lol:
     
  18. ekid

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    Scam! I got this before. Check the link and all its categories he gave and you find it's not a real link
     
  19. DynamoMoe

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    thank you. I learn much from this. See other name for appraisal here. Is okay for appraise here? It is good?

    I try to learn much here. My brother help. He has few domains and try to teach. He say go to site here and learn.

    Yes I learn not fall for scam.
     
  20. RaiderGirl

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    I must of sold at least a dozen domain names to buyers who had "oddly constructed english" English with a capital E, Not to worry I don't think your a scammer :hehe:

    I think the best way to determine what is SPAM and what is not, is on content.
     
  21. -NC-

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    Are you disagreeing with me? I can't tell.
     
  22. DynamoMoe

    DynamoMoe Established Member

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    I learn English as second language.

    No best way to tell scam.

    To many scam and people do scam everywhere.
     
  23. RaiderGirl

    RaiderGirl Established Member

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    Yes, and sometime scammers use a new kind of English so they cam pretend to be someone their not.
     
  24. DynamoMoe

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    ha ha ha. that funny
     
  25. stu walk

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    Email I recieved
    Same email as someone above posted but a different name of CEO this time. They used my Whois email

    "On 1 April 2013 19:31, <ceo@live-host.org> wrote:"

    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing cxxxxx.biz.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Aaron Anderson

    CEO

    Live Host Solutions
     

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