services BrandBucket's Michael Krell Resigns

[DaveX]

BrandBucket sent out their January newsletter and it seems that Michael Krell will be leaving the company. Michael who is one of if not the most prolific seller in the history of the site will be leaving effective January 31.

http://tldinvestors.com/2018/01/michael-krell-is-leaving-his-position-at-brandbucket.html

And @Grilled got a mention!

 

[wwwweb]

Didn't godaddy overhaul their coupon program after he went on dn sherpa, and point and clicked his way on how to use multiple $1 coupons? Is this the same guy?

 

[wwwweb]

I don't need to prove anything. Speaking of close-knit, sometimes NP feels that way. I happen to be a bb seller, and they are quite welcoming to me there. I wasn't responding to you in particular but to a few others. speaking of insider and close-knit, one of the reasons why I've stayed away from NF in its current incarnation is that it very much feels like a boys club and I wanted to offer up another perspective. Yes, of course, I agree there's much to be critical of the system, and how MK had/has the lions share, but there are options thankfully and we all have a choice, to buy/sell in whatever way we choose. Best to you on all your endeavours.

This is not a boys club, you have us confused with DBR, all love here

 

[Name Trader]

What is the correct procedure for removing your domains from BB?

 

[gina ferrano]

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[MapleDots]

Personally, I think many are envious or jealous though won't admit it so they hurl insults. I guess it's human nature. Amassing 7k-9k names is no small feat, and yes one might say a conflict of interest no more than many brandable marketplaces (brandpa, namerific, brandroot for starters) He was able to turn a 1k investment into quite the windfall. If we should all be so lucky.

Personally, I like your style and reasoning

 

[Optimal Names]

.....But the fact remains that a worldwide independent marketplace is needed. No godaddy, no afternic, no sedo, no namejet, no commissions - a craigslists sort of free and open market place with no leaders, no sponsors, no bloggers, no kickbacks - a domainer marketplace to sell to end users. Cut out the middlemen. Cut out the brokers. Direct sales domainer to end user. A co-op even. The market is all fragmented with separate landing pages in parking services instead of one central marketplace for end users, they go to Godaddy because they are the most well known.

Run it like digital currency, use the blockchain technology...

 

[offthehandle]

I don't need to prove anything. Speaking of close-knit, sometimes NP feels that way. I happen to be a bb seller, and they are quite welcoming to me there. I wasn't responding to you in particular but to a few others. speaking of insider and close-knit, one of the reasons why I've stayed away from NF in its current incarnation is that it very much feels like a boys club and I wanted to offer up another perspective. Yes, of course, I agree there's much to be critical of the system, and how MK had/has the lions share, but there are options thankfully and we all have a choice, to buy/sell in whatever way we choose. Best to you on all your endeavours.

This is the first post I have seen from you since I joined in 2016, A boy’s club? hmmm. Thanks for posting that, what do you see wrong? In fact start another thread to explain that conclusion. Please do.

We are a random bunch here, with plenty of debating and disagreements to be considered a club of like minded people. You should feel welcome to post anything constructive or critical as opposed to stating “jealousy” what you did in the way you did it. The topic persons name in thread was never my issue, and it isn’t my issue at all or any resellers. It’s the naive business management of BB or worse the insider club favoritism the marketplace has been accused of and shown to certain sellers. A brand ambassador should be like a sales manager, encouraging sellers not competing with them. Same with a business owner, not competing but having some honor, loyalty, respect and support of resellers. Putting the end users customers interests first before your own wallet. When a search is done like I showed, thats bad for both the would be customer and the non “club member” insiders.

I think if you participated and offered your perspective you will find this forum is open, lots of lurkers more than posters so start a thread, or join in. Closed knit? I feel this forum has plenty of independent mavericks like myself more so than group think. Stick around.

 

[offthehandle]

What is the correct procedure for removing your domains from BB?

Send them in a 30 day notice via email, then change nameservers at the end of 30 days.

 

[offthehandle]

Run it like digital currency, use the blockchain technology...

I am block-challenged. Start a thread on that, sounds interesting.

 

[Optimal Names]

I am block-challenged. Start a thread on that, sounds interesting.

I am actually challenged in the whole blockchain thing BUT, from what I read its open and its transparent. It sounds like a solution begging for problems. I bet it could be used in a buy/sell sort of manner. You know? I dont know though. I am reading as much as I can on it but it is somewhat confusing to me

 

[offthehandle]

I am actually challenged in the whole blockchain thing BUT, from what I read its open and its transparent. It sounds like a solution begging for problems. I bet it could be used in a buy/sell sort of manner. You know? I dont know though. I am reading as much as I can on it but it is somewhat confusing to me

From what I read, its key is decentralization. Hence why every bank, financial entity and govt are afraid of losing their grip and control. Mods are going to delete this though, we are going off topic.

 

[Optimal Names]

From what I read, its key is decentralization. Hence why every bank, financial entity and govt are afraid of losing their grip and control. Mods are going to delete this though, we are going off topic.

Gotcha.

Here you go - started a new thread. Lets see if anyone smarter than I can confirm or deny what I am wondering...

 

[gina ferrano]

This is the first post I have seen from you since I joined in 2016, A boy’s club? hmmm. Thanks for posting that, what do you see wrong? In fact start another thread to explain that conclusion. Please do.

We are a random bunch here, with plenty of debating and disagreements to be considered a club of like minded people. You should feel welcome to post anything constructive or critical as opposed to stating “jealousy” what you did in the way you did it. The topic persons name in thread was never my issue, and it isn’t my issue at all or any resellers. It’s the naive business management of BB or worse the insider club favoritism the marketplace has been accused of and shown to certain sellers. A brand ambassador should be like a sales manager, encouraging sellers not competing with them. Same with a business owner, not competing but having some honor, loyalty, respect and support of resellers. Putting the end users customers interests first before your own wallet. When a search is done like I showed, thats bad for both the would be customer and the non “club member” insiders.

I think if you participated and offered your perspective you will find this forum is open, lots of lurkers more than posters so start a thread, or join in. Closed knit? I feel this forum has plenty of independent mavericks like myself more so than group think. Stick around.

Perhaps I shall join in like you said. Or, I'll go back to lurking. But two years back, when I was more active, I had some negative experiences which is why I've stayed away. There don't seem to be a lot of woman folk on here. But yes, I stand by what I said, some of those who've either expressed themselves with a bit more vitriol (or maybe it's the heavy-handed Trump memes that seem a bit over the top) or anyone who may take offense to what I said may very well be masking a bit of jealousy or envy. Heck, I'm a bit envious of MK's success and wanted to give a more 'positive' spin.

 

[campout]

There don't seem to be a lot of woman folk on here.

I legitimately think there might be more people pretending to be women, than actual women, on here.

 

[DaveX]

Perhaps I shall join in like you said. Or, I'll go back to lurking. But two years back, when I was more active, I had some negative experiences which is why I've stayed away. There don't seem to be a lot of woman folk on here. But yes, I stand by what I said, some of those who've either expressed themselves with a bit more vitriol (or maybe it's the heavy-handed Trump memes that seem a bit over the top) or anyone who may take offense to what I said may very well be masking a bit of jealousy or envy. Heck, I'm a bit envious of MK's success and wanted to give a more 'positive' spin.

I truly appreciate your participation.

 

[gina ferrano]

I legitimately think there might be more people pretending to be women, than actual women, on here.

Interesting, yes this may very well be. I can usually tell with some of the profile pics, they appear to be
just random ones found on the internet. Maybe they feel it makes them more approachable.

 

[DaveX]

Yes, I pretty much ignore profile pics other than for amusement.

So, personally, I have no opinion of MK. I don't know him at all. It does seem highly unusual that a company would allow it's employees to compete with customers and be given an advantage of any kind.

I do hope that this change is good for all three. BB, MK and paying customers.

If in fact there was impropriety, the blame would land squarely on the owner, who I have met in person.

It's fair here for any member to express their opinion. I hand out Thank You's because I love being a part of informative conversations between individuals with different opinions, experiences, and different backgrounds. I leave the feelings and the door and read even criticisms, objectively.

I just love this business.

 

[1Darko]

I have never posted anything but what I see is factual. Prove me wrong with screen shots and whois data, and I will eat my words and apologize!

The BB thread had some posts awhile that search was improved, and above I demonstrated in 5 minutes it remains skewed with one example. If you were to invest your time to examine whois on a bunch of keywords and post that data here proving otherwise, I am all ears. That would be more productive than accusing people of being jealous. Research who owns the top names in search, its almost like Adwords, paid advertising above organic results. In fact, its like SEO gaming. The skewed and favored management of a company to a small close knit group of people there and here on NP that own a bunch of names will defend this to no end. I think those people should all be members of the BB club, which would actually be better for them : less inventory and sellers = less competitors. Then the remaining sellers defect to other markets.

I come from an industry of professionals, not a company run by some school teacher or language major. Sales organizations if done correctly are designed to work to eliminate conflicts of interest. Inside sales support outside sales. Inside sales dont take sales away from their resellers, or they lose their resellers and get a black eye from all peer resellers who talk among themselves as on this forum, and boycott the principal. Clearly that sort of education in business management was lacking at this marketplace. I have seen lines always drawn clearly with business owners or corporations choosing between inside sales or outside sales forces. You can’t have it both ways, or what has happened here and exposed occurs to tarnish resellers / outside sellers confidence with insiders. There are sellers with a few names with “Tech” in them that deserve 1st page position. Why are they on page 8? Maybe I should post all the pages of screen shots here, I still have them. Meanwhile that name Xefeo or whatever was glaringly at me- front row center. The best seat in the house. Prime real estate.

I have no horse in this race, I removed my names from BB and in fact they keep getting purchased by others. I don’t really care, I hope they sell to an end user someday, and hope that the reseller makes ton’s of money.

But the fact remains that a worldwide independent marketplace is needed. No godaddy, no afternic, no sedo, no namejet, no commissions - a craigslists sort of free and open market place with no leaders, no sponsors, no bloggers, no kickbacks - a domainer marketplace to sell to end users. Cut out the middlemen. Cut out the brokers. Direct sales domainer to end user. A co-op even. The market is all fragmented with separate landing pages in parking services instead of one central marketplace for end users, they go to Godaddy because they are the most well known.

BRAVO!

 

[Brandworthy]

It does seem highly unusual that a company would allow it's employees to compete with customers and be given an advantage of any kind.

I'd probably be the last person that you'd expect to defend them, but in all fairness the business started out as a way for Margot to sell her own domains. In the beginning there were no third parties selling on BB, so insiders selling their inventory was somewhat of a legacy. I still think the business would have been a better proposition (and perhaps would have found a buyer - who knows?) had all inventory been from third parties. Any due diligence by potential buyers would have flagged the insider issue very quickly, and surely would have been a sticking point in any possible sale.

If in fact there was impropriety, the blame would land squarely on the owner, who I have met in person.

Define "impropriety". Greed is a very human trait, but not sure you could call it "improper".

If you really want to see behind the curtain you just need to add WHOIS data over the search results. I'm sure someone could build a nice little browser plugin that added this data. Sellers could then see not only what names appear in what order, but also who owns many of those names. Of course, the use of WHOIS privacy by some insiders was merely coincidental, and in no way an indication that there may be something worth hiding...

 

[DaveX]

I'd probably be the last person that you'd expect to defend them, but in all fairness the business started out as a way for Margot to sell her own domains. In the beginning there were no third parties selling on BB, so insiders selling their inventory was somewhat of a legacy. I still think the business would have been a better proposition (and perhaps would have found a buyer - who knows?) had all inventory been from third parties. Any due diligence by potential buyers would have flagged the insider issue very quickly, and surely would have been a sticking point in any possible sale.

Define "impropriety". Greed is a very human trait, but not sure you could call it "improper".

If you really want to see behind the curtain you just need to add WHOIS data over the search results. I'm sure someone could build a nice little browser plugin that added this data. Sellers could then see not only what names appear in what order, but also who owns many of those names. Of course, the use of WHOIS privacy by some insiders was merely coincidental, and in no way an indication that there may be something worth hiding...

Interesting background info. Pretty cool.

I wasn't making any accusations. As far as impropriety, I was referring to the possibility of purposely promoting an employees domains above paying customers that are unaware and without some kind of disclosure. Essentially using the credibility gained from size and revenue from the domains submitted by paying customers to increase their own domain sales as the priority.

That's all I was saying.