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I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


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Today is the one year anniversary of Votes for Credits going bye bye.

Around 14,000 names at that time on BrandBucket

http://brandbucket.cmail19.com/t/ViewEmail/j/30C165E48D905654/586DF2BBB710F6630CC2E775D3CF5869

They more than doubled their inventory since the free voting credits discontinued. I have to be honest, I never expected that. I even think I said somewhere in this thread that I wouldn't think they would hit 30k domains. And look at them now, 32k+ domains and counting.
 
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They more than doubled their inventory since the free voting credits discontinued. I have to be honest, I never expected that. I even think I said somewhere in this thread that I wouldn't think they would hit 30k domains. And look at them now, 32k+ domains and counting.

Yeah there are a bunch of people who thought they would see a slowdown Doron. Brandables are stronger than ever thanks to this thread, your blog and new domainers coming in and looking for opportunity. Newer domainers with small budgets could not afford to play in the LLL.com/LLLL.com/NNNN.com/NNNNN.com sandbox, so they sought out another niche where they did not need $10,000 to get started.
 
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I've never tried BB, is there a minimum number of names you have to submit for review when you sign up? Can I send 1 or 2 names only? thanks
 
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You can send just one name and they will review it.
 
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I've just noticed a weird thing on Namepros. In the Request Domains section I've seen 2 threads where very low prices were offered for BB names (less than $10 for accepted and less than $20 for published names). I find it ridiculous, I've sold a few accepted names for more than $30! What do you think, what is the real minimum price for BB accepted/published names?
 
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I've just noticed a weird thing on Namepros. In the Request Domains section I've seen 2 threads where very low prices were offered for BB names (less than $10 for accepted and less than $20 for published names). I find it ridiculous, I've sold a few accepted names for more than $30! What do you think, what is the real minimum price for BB accepted/published names?

Please dont send names if its not acceptable.
There is no real minimum price. It may be reg fee+BBFee or 100.
 
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I've just noticed a weird thing on Namepros. In the Request Domains section I've seen 2 threads where very low prices were offered for BB names (less than $10 for accepted and less than $20 for published names). I find it ridiculous, I've sold a few accepted names for more than $30! What do you think, what is the real minimum price for BB accepted/published names?
IMO, the minimum for any BB approved domain should be $20.
 
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Absolutely weird alright...they think someone will sell them BB names for $5. I would rather drop my non performing names than sell them for $5.
 
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I've just noticed a weird thing on Namepros. In the Request Domains section I've seen 2 threads where very low prices were offered for BB names (less than $10 for accepted and less than $20 for published names). I find it ridiculous, I've sold a few accepted names for more than $30! What do you think, what is the real minimum price for BB accepted/published names?

I would agree sellers willing to work will get more than that. Take the time to do auctions, it takes more time but you can get more than $10.
 
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I've just noticed a weird thing on Namepros. In the Request Domains section I've seen 2 threads where very low prices were offered for BB names (less than $10 for accepted and less than $20 for published names). I find it ridiculous, I've sold a few accepted names for more than $30! What do you think, what is the real minimum price for BB accepted/published names?
OK, so this leads me to comment that I think wholesale pricing is too often out of alignment with expected return. If you have a large portfolio (say 500-1K names) published you know your sales rate on BB. You have to make a faulty assumption* that all names are equal, and then your expected return in year 1 for any name is:

((listing price * 0.7) - 100) * sales rate

Taking a name listed for $2,000 the income from a sale is:

(2,000 * 0.7) - 100 = 1300

Now assuming your sales rate is 3%, the expected return in year 1 is:

1300 * 0.03 = $39

Unless it's a really great name that would sell itself I wouldn't want to pay more than around 60% of my expected return at wholesale**. You need to factor in the $10 listing cost, plus the cost of renewing the name during the year. Now the economics don't look so rosy.

Just posting the above as I think there is a group of new brandable domainers rushing in without a realistic view of the economics of selling on BB. It's like stock-picking - sure some sellers will outperform, but it's a zero-sum game here since for some sellers to outperform others have to underperform. As your portfolio on BB grows to the 500-1K names you'll likely approach the market average sales rate, so that's what you should really expect IMO. A healthy wholesale market is a good thing, and supportive of a healthy primary market, but right now I think we're seeing a bubble, and I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed sellers in 9-12 months time trying to figure out why their sales are not as stellar as they expected them to be.

Just my current $0.02...

* Other than assigning a probability to each domain of selling, I think this is about as good as it gets with large portfolios. It's very similar to diversification in stock theory.

** I just offered 100% of my expected 12-month return for 6 listed names, while the buyer wants exactly double that. I can understand where he is coming from entirely, but paying 24 months expected return for domains priced sub $4K isn't going to pay the mortgage.
 
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Today is the one year anniversary of Votes for Credits going bye bye.

Around 14,000 names at that time on BrandBucket

http://brandbucket.cmail19.com/t/ViewEmail/j/30C165E48D905654/586DF2BBB710F6630CC2E775D3CF5869

Hey Raymond thanks for the roll down memory lane! :laugh:
Do you happen to know when the free credits system was started. When I started on BB I paid several publishing fees before I learned about the voting system which had already been in place for some time.
Any idea when it started?
 
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Thanks Raymond, you are the man with answers! It looks like I missed out on about half the months that opportunity was available as I didn't have any names accepted until Jan 2015. Or should I say I caught about half of that opportunity window? :roll:

Well and truly in the caught side of things! I wish I was around in the days of credits and 99c godaddy domains!
 
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One question I got is if put up your BB listed name at your store(like one provided by EFTY),is it a violation of their TOS??
 
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One question I got is if put up your BB listed name at your store(like one provided by EFTY),is it a violation of their TOS??

Once you publish the name at BB they have the exclusive rights to the sale and the commission. You can reach out to potential buyers as long as the buyer completes the sale via BB.

As for listing the domain at EFTY etc. I'm not sure of the details but if you listing does not indicate the the domain is for sale at BrandBucket I believe you would be in violation of their Terms of Use. But you can check with them to be sure. They are very helpful.

[email protected]
 
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Well and truly in the caught side of things! I wish I was around in the days of credits and 99c godaddy domains!
Yes, I'm grateful for whatever time I caught. As far as cheap regs there are still temporary specials at various registrars for $1.49 and $1.99 reg fees (all you can eat for a few hours or a few days) There are several threads on NP dedicated to that if it interests you.
 
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They more than doubled their inventory since the free voting credits discontinued. I have to be honest, I never expected that. I even think I said somewhere in this thread that I wouldn't think they would hit 30k domains. And look at them now, 32k+ domains and counting.
They changed their business model ... Now they make money from listing fees :$:
 
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IMO, the minimum for any BB approved domain should be $20.
Being "approved by BB" does not add any value to a domain name !
Brandables are subjective; everyone has his own criteria and these days BB approves almost everything in order to get the listing fee ...
 
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Being "approved by BB" does not add any value to a domain name !
Brandables are subjective; everyone has his own criteria and these days BB approves almost everything in order to get the listing fee ...
Disagree.

I have submitted over 50 names at BB in recent months and have over 40 rejections. Based on your hypothesis why would BB reject $400 worth of listing fees?
 
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