BILLIONAIRE PayPals $500, Good or Bad?

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  1. Bikini Tara

    Bikini Tara Established Member

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    Weeks ago, I flipped a hand-registered domain for $1100 after exerting less than 30 minutes of my time/energy. This week, thanks to @Ornelasa75, I earned $250 — from a billionaire — and not only was it a FREE 250 bucks in my account, but after tallying it all up, the combined time it took me to send @Ornelasa75 messages on namepros + time sending texts/emails to the end user + the time it took to draft/send the PayPal invoice.. STILL under 30 minutes. There’s an interesting twist to all of this. Let’s get to it.

    Early in the week, I was turned on after browsing domains on namepros and seeing NameBright-registered, GOLDENNUGGET//ORG. Don’t get me wrong, I love Sin City, but I’m no gambler. I do know that Golden Nugget is a widely-known casino brand owned by BILLIONAIRE Tilman Fertitta, one of the richest restaurateurs of America. Dude is worth more than $3 BILLION, is Founder/CEO of Houston-based, Landry’s Restaurants, he owns a handful of casinos, resort hotels etc, and he just acquired the NBA’s Houston Rockets for $2.2BILLION(more on that later).

    Firstly, I have plenty of friends/family in Houston and have had the pleasure of getting to know Tilman’s family/friends over the years. Secondly, I knew he’d hop all over the domain, especially considering the fact that he once owned it alongside the dot com, dot net, dot info extensions.

    I thought, “Quick call, quick transfer, piece of cake”, then sent a private message to the owner of the domain, @Ornelasa75, and told him I would sell it for him as long as he was willing to go 50/50 on the sale price. #MyConnectionsAreValuable #MyTimeIsEvenMoreValuable. @Ornelasa75 agreed to the deal.

    Ten minutes later, I sent text messages and emails to Tilman and his peeps, asking for the namebright info so I could at least push the domain. One thing I pondered on was actually asking for a monetary figure from people God has blessed me with being around in the first place. I’ve spent time with Tilman and his team’s families, been on their jets, been in their weddings, babysat their grandkids, gone to yoga classes with them etc lol.. so it’s only appropriate to just give the domain up, right? Not that easy. I knew I had to at some point since I didn’t own the domain.

    I also had to remember that I wasn’t the owner of the domain, @Ornelasa75 was. However, what I didn’t want was for someone else to snag the domain and use it recklessly before I made my move. While I was awaiting the replies, I received an email from a totally different exec within the company, head of IT, offering to pay $500 for the domain and also willing to setup a NameBright account to quickly take control of the domain.

    I like my cash quick, and I’m certain others do too, so I agreed and rather than accepting the $500 paypal payment, @Ornelasa75 and I both sent separate $250 PayPal invoices. We were then PAID by Landry’s Restaurants Inc.

    Being around these guys for quite some time, I’ve recognized that $500 is petty tip money. If I was the owner of the domain, they’d probably offer me more as a “Tara, thank you for looking out for us” because I typically get high $xxx-x,xxx when “looking out” for BIG-pocketed ppl/companies that I associate with, without even offering a figure. My effort was minor, so I’m not complaining. Besides, when I think about the time Tilman jetted my friends and I to a game in Texas(he used to be minority owner of NFL’s Houston Texans), approx $6,000 was spent in jet fuel ALONE, and that doesn’t even include the accommodations that were provided for my friends. So I’ve been well compensated. Bikini tip: NEVER ABUSE YOUR PRIVILEGES, ESPECIALLY FROM THOSE THAT HELP YOU AND PUT CASH IN YOUR POCKET. KEEP YOUR RELATIONSHIPS CLOSE.

    Let’s talk about this further. Many domainers don’t like buying trademarked domains, but I personally love them. Many domainers are scared of “seize and desist’ or “demand to transfer domain or face litigation” letters. I personally just ignore these ridiculous letters sent from these corporate lawyers. For the largest companies, these letters are provided to intimidate these domain holders, nothing more. When some of these company heads find out I have a domain that their hired, 3-figure-salary lawyers have failed to renew/secure, these lawyers are often fired on the spot. And I know this, because I’ve been the cause of it several times and I don’t feel bad at all. They should have left me alone, right? So, in most cases, these attorneys send these letters to save their own butt cheeks. Btw, when these lawyers finally realize I know or have close ties to the owners or top executives of the companies I’m reaching out to, they send letters apologizing soon after the “seize and desist” emails lol. Like really??

    And mind you, just this year, I’ve sold and transferred domains to some of the largest consumer brand companies and celebrities we all have grown to love: Sony Music, NFL, Nabisco, 21st Century Fox, Mercedes-Benz USA, Viacom, WME-IMG, Proctor & Gamble, Kellogg, Home Depot, NBA Media Ventures, and TIME Inc, to name a few — and I’m just a rookie at this domaining thing.

    I also believe flipping is all in the approach. I’ve learned this from the BEST. Not BOZOS, but ppl who ACTUALLY DO IT and ACTUALLY MAKE REAL BANK flipping domains. And certainly don’t be an idiot and waste your time listening and taking advice from ppl who aren’t putting money in your pockets to get you to where you want to be, or even, people who are doing worse off than you are, which I never understood.

    In case you didn’t hear on the news, Tilman agreed to pay a staggering $2.2B in CASH to acquire the NBA’s Houston Rockets(9/5/2017) — highest price EVER for an NBA team. This hit the media just hours after I sent the text message. I really had no idea.

    So, while buying my $500 Louboutin pumps the day of the transaction, I thought to myself, “I should’ve at least said how about adding a “1” before the “500”. I mean, geez, they just bought the damn Houston Rockets!” My half would have been $750(half of $1500), plus I woulda had an extra $250 to hand register a few more domains and purchase a pair of white panties and thigh-high stockings.

    After splitting 50/50 with @Ornelasa75, was $250 a good or bad deal?
    How much money would you have countered with?
     

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  2. jideofor

    jideofor Active Member VIP

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    lol... But I still think you should keep buyer's info private... stop revealing who bought a domain name. Not a good practice IMO. Besides, some information are very unhealthy for public consumption as it put buyers at the edge of their seats

    Congrats all the same.
     
  3. dordomai

    dordomai Active Member VIP

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    Honestly one can make as much money without TMs as with TMs but without the downside risk.

    Cybersquatting is of course illegal, like tax avoidance but because you get away with it doesn't mean it's a good idea.

    You can of course 'squat' as much as you want but you've to understand that not everyone here likes it.

    Also I do think the buyers deserve better than having their private emails posted here.

    I think it is great if you are so enthusiastic about domaining and enjoy it so much but but your threads are for some reason kind of weird not sure why.

    What I don't understand is that if you have some many billionaire friends why do you waste your connections selling low value TM infringing domains. Seems really a waste of time and effort.
     
  4. Bikini Tara

    Bikini Tara Established Member

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    Thanks for your reply. I truly appreciate the feedback. Firstly, I don't live my live caring what others think. That's a small way to live and you won't go too far with that particular mindset. I'm not here to be liked, I hardly know anyone on here, so I could care less. I'm on here to inspire, and I've done this. I also didn't post the end-user email address in this post, so not sure what the heck you're talking about lol. Weird is a good thing. You not knowing why it's kinda weird is also a good thing. You, actually taking the time to read my thread and respond is even better of a good thing.. and maybe, even more weird lol. Since posting this thread days ago, I've partnered with 3 namepros users and have sold 4 domains at 50/50, making my profit a cool $1255(not bad for a rookie, right?) so I'm apparently doing something right. With this, I truly thank you for helping me in my successes. Unless these namepros users are putting money in your pockets, perhaps you should focus on creating your own weirdness and capitalizing on it, rather than focusing on what I'm doing, without even making a buck doing it. Kinda dumb, don't you think? A big waste of your time, don't you think? Life is more fun when you think bigger.
     
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  5. dordomai

    dordomai Active Member VIP

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    OK. I was wrong. Squatting is great and profitable if done right and you have indeed mastered the art of a good squat. Lol.
     
  6. Cyberian

    Cyberian NamePros Staff Member Services Business Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    We're going to open this thread back up.

    To all the deleted posts:
    This turned into a flame war and that is not what NamePros is about.
    If you don't have something constructive to say, hit the Back button.

    Peace,
    Cy
     
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  7. wwwweb

    wwwweb Top Member VIP

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    I sold this company a domain also it went like this Atlantic City Poker, This person bragging about selling these companies TM names, needs to be removed, it gives newbies the wrong idea, and it gives everyone in the industry a bad name.
     
  8. EmotiveDomains

    EmotiveDomains Active Member VIP

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    That post must have taken up more of your time than the actual deal :xf.wink:
     
  9. Bikini Tara

    Bikini Tara Established Member

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    What sales have I lied about? How many sales have I even mentioned? Get your little facts together please. Also, it's called paying-it-forward. Unlike yourself, I was fortunate enough to inherit 3600 domains from a now-deceased domainer whom I used to petsit for. Thank God for wills, right? Years before he passed, he used to always tell me to pay-it-forward. So, often, I hand-register domains and repost on namepros the same exact day for $1-2 to inspire/encourage others to buy and flip to make their own profits. Those on namepros with no lives, who've had nothing better to do but track my every move know this about me, because these people have asked. In fact, I'm about to post MilwaukeeTrees.com for $2 in "bargains" for anyone who wishes to capitalize on it. :xf.cool: I'm certain, someone will hop on it, as always.
     
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  10. 55Domains

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    Stuff has been posted.
    Stuff has been questioned.

    I believe if a couple of peeps on NP step forward and ask for actual proof for what is being said, the proof should be provided, even if only to the NP staff, as these posts are getting allot of views. And spreading false information can not be tolerated.

    Also, promoting selling trademarked domains should not be allowed on NP.

    Not picking a side, just pointing out facts.
     
  11. Eric Lyon

    Eric Lyon Community Admin, NamePros Administrator PRO Business Account VIP Trusted Contest Holder

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    It appears that after a clean-up attempt to get the thread back on-topic, constructive, and eliminate antagonistic commenting, that some chose to continue along the same path.

    This thread has now been closed.

    Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for understanding.

    Have a wonderful day.
     

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