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Arunas Zygis stole $900 USD from me

Labeled as warning in Warnings and Alerts, started by decades80, Mar 29, 2017

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  1. decades80

    decades80 Top Contributor VIP

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    Hi,

    I've bought a 4L domain under the privacy protect, now I think it was not his and he insisted to pay as a gift 900 USD by PayPal. So I did yesterday,, because I don't like for sellers to pay 5% mostly and offer them gift payment.. Now as of today his account
    @ZArunas is auto closed. :(
    What can I do? I just made a dispute on PayPal for unauthorized transaction.
    Thank you all in advance,

    Robert



    Details about ZArunas, ArzysArt

    Name on PayPal Account:
    • Arunas Zygis
    Email addresses:
    Location:
    • Continent: Europe
    • Country: Republic of Lithuania (lt flag)
    • State/Region: Kaunas
    • City: Kaunas
    Real IP addresses (not proxies):
    GoDaddy Account / Customer Numbers:
    • 147174832
    • 132621499
    • 140330781
    NameSilo Account Usernames:
    • arunasmacky
    • xarunasx
    Phone Numbers:
    • +370 867480566 (real number)
    • +370 68578945
    • +370 67480566 (whois)
    Skype:
    • arzys1
    Domain Name: BXA.CO (Whois Record for 2017-03-30)
    • Registrant Name: Arunas Zygis
    • Registrant Organization: Zygis CO
    • Registrant Address1: Nidos 5-32
    • Registrant City: Vilnius
    • Registrant State/Province: Vilniaus Apskritis
    • Registrant Postal Code: 06298
    • Registrant Country: Lithuania
    • Registrant Country Code: LT
    • Registrant Phone Number: +370.67480566
    • Registrant Email: [email protected]
    Domain Name: 0111.INFO (Whois Record for 2016-02-11)
    • Registrant Name: Arunas Zygis
    • Registrant Street: Jaunimo g.7
    • Registrant City: Jauniunai
    • Registrant State/Province: Vilniaus aps.
    • Registrant Postal Code: 19008
    • Registrant Country: LT
    • Registrant Phone: +370.67480566
    • Registrant Email: [email protected]
     
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  2. dnk

    dnk Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Trying contacting the registrar or the paypal email id used for making payment. Which registrar was he using
     
  3. decades80

    decades80 Top Contributor VIP

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    The domain was buqe.com @ Namesilo. Still "owe" him some money because the agreed price was higher and I was supposed to pay the rest this Friday.
     
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  4. imc

    imc Established Member

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    Take screenshots of the domain pre-sale conversations and present it within PayPal dispute. That may help.
     
  5. decades80

    decades80 Top Contributor VIP

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    You can not dispute Gift transaction, so I made an unauthorized payment dispute....
     
  6. LucidDomains

    LucidDomains LucidDomains.com VIP

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    It's very kind of you to give him $900 gift. :facepalm:

    I do hope you get your money back and learn from this in the future.
     
  7. Messiah

    Messiah Active Member VIP

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    Sucks man.. This guy offered me the same domain for $1499 on March 13th, but I didn't buy the domain...
    Hope you get your money back...
     
  8. Ted.T

    Ted.T Top Contributor VIP

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    Was the domain transferred or not? I don't understand this from your message...
     
  9. Kuffy

    Kuffy Name Stag VIP

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    Oh dear, another scammer uysig PayPal. Why do people still use a service that has a 6 month payment confirmation delay, and is the preferred choice of scammers?
     
  10. LucidDomains

    LucidDomains LucidDomains.com VIP

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    Even though he has 11 positive trade reviews, if we look a little deeper, some of the accounts he dealt with are newer accounts and some have don't have high post counts either which makes you wonder. 9 of those trade reviews were in the last month.

    Just an observation.
     
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  11. vincew

    vincew Established Member

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    Sending the money as a gift might make it hard for you to get your money back, I don't think Paypal will want to help you. When you send money that way the recipient is supposed to be a relative or a friend, you're giving them a "gift". It's not intended to be used for a transaction where someone is buying and someone is selling.

    Good luck.
     
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  12. SuperBrander

    SuperBrander Top Contributor VIP

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    That sucks. I hope you'll be able to recover the money (or get the domain). The Gift option at Paypal is a double edged sword and using paypal for expensive transactions with people who aren't 100% trustworthy... risky business. Did you contact NP's staff to find out why his account was closed?
     
  13. tldboss

    tldboss Top Contributor VIP

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    Hope you get your money back, fingers crossed.

    The scammer can still come back to NP & do the same thing (using different name, from different location) :banghead:
     
  14. decades80

    decades80 Top Contributor VIP

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    Yeah, I believe the "newest" trick now is to make some transactions for few bucks, grow your posts and likes and than put in a signature you have 3.000 USD budget.
     
  15. LarryDomain

    LarryDomain Top Contributor VIP

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    If you paid by credit card to paypal for the transaction, you can ask your creditcard company to reject the transaction. if the funds were taken from your bank account, you can ask your bank to reject it also. Credit card has a better chance.

    Good luck
     
  16. Haris

    Haris Best Domainer Of The End-Times VIP

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    I hope you get your money back @decades80

    People need to understand that the money they steal is not some kind of a 'profit', @ZArunas will face a bigger loss and those $900 will never benefit him in any way.
     
  17. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    your chances are minimal
    if he takes the money out of paypal
    they will give you nothing

    but they would have done so
    with a normal transaction as well
     
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  18. LarryDomain

    LarryDomain Top Contributor VIP

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    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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  20. joro001

    joro001 Top Contributor VIP

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    Sorry to hear this OP.

    What i'm going to say won't be popular but I would say goodbye to the money and use it as a learning experience. Some of the advice here is frankly horrible.

    As others have mentioned a gift payment is exactly that not meant for business deals, Paypal masspay is there if you want to cover fees as the buyer. You have claimed an unauthorized transaction which is frankly 100% false as you did authorize it. If Paypal investigate and see your IP etc. matches up and you did approve it and used it for a business transaction you could very well lose your Paypal account for good.

    If it were me I would cancel the dispute and move on unless you are happy to risk losing your Paypal account forever for $900.
     
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  21. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    100% agreed

    don't think of paypal as a "pal"
     
  22. deez007

    deez007 The More I Learn The Less I "Know" VIP

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    Sorry to heard about your dilemma...

    I think you are going to run into some problems as @joro001 has mentioned already - When they do realize that it was an authorized transaction and not a fraudulent one, they will then ask you why you did a "gift" payment when it was in fact a business transaction and by doing so you were trying to avoid paying them their 5% fee. That will not go down very nicely with them unfortunately.
     
  23. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    it was very kind of you as a nice person you are
    to intend to save the commission for the buyer

    but never do so with people
    who have no great history

    and limit your losses
    in never doing so above x USD

    set up a sum that fits you
    and stick to it
    no matter what
     
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  24. fruttolo

    fruttolo Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Sorry to hear that, I hope you manage to get out of this... and recover your money.

    I would never buy a privacy protected name... first you make him take off privacy protection, check whois, and then proceed with caution.
     
  25. Nikhil Jain

    Nikhil Jain Top Contributor VIP

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    As a next step, I'd suggest you to get in touch with the Moderators here at NP to understand why his account is Auto-Closed. Can something be work out from their end to get more details of this account including email address or so to get in touch with him ?
     

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