discuss Are gTLDs affecting .Com price and growth

[Isac]

I think there is a decline in demand and price of .com domains because of new gTLDs. What's your opinion ?

 

[dordomai]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/mi...u-com-antipollution-com.1046842/#post-6408082

Mike Mann reported selling 9 domain names in September for a total of $136,502. Mike had 6 5-figure sales and another 2 sales very close to $10k.

all .com of course, market is far from dead

 

[boker]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/mi...u-com-antipollution-com.1046842/#post-6408082



all .com of course, market is far from dead

Out of 275k domains and down from 350k domains he owned 2-3 years ago, do you see the trend? Also, probably he had a bad month, because he needs over 200k in a month just to cover renewals, so not always a picture is the big picture. Exactly what I was saying earlier, the important thing is to make a good enough profit. There are also some namepros users who don't buy anything under 500$-1k, but some struggle to break even.

 

[dordomai]

Out of 275k domains and down from 350k domains he owned 2-3 years ago, do you see the trend? Also, probably he had a bad month, because he needs over 200k in a month just to cover renewals, so not always a picture is the big picture.

he does not report all sales I think, he reports only the best ones.

https://onlinedomain.com/2017/04/11...month-ever-propertyphotos-com-ukcannabis-com/

Mike Mann reported that he had his best month ever selling domain names. He reported selling 27 domain names in March for a total of $233,540. Mike had 7 5-figure sales.

Mike Mann said: “Ive been selling domains for 20 years. This is the best month yet.”

“Perfect time to agree .Com is going up in value

I would guess there have been worse years for him.

 

[boker]

https://onlinedomain.com/2017/04/11...month-ever-propertyphotos-com-ukcannabis-com/

Something seems wrong, because if 237k is the best month, that means that he's loosing money in a year, on average, without even counting the acquisition cost. Probably he's making extra money from marketing, blogs and websites, but still it's not the best example. Also, I was reading one article from a few years ago saying that at one point he was buying more, to accumulate more domains, but it seems that in the last two years he is selling more, probably that why he had the best month in 2017-selling more and accepting lower amounts also. When you have 85k domains less in two years doesn't show big trust in com.

 

[dordomai]

Something seems wrong, because if 237k is the best month, that means that he's loosing money in a year, on average, without even counting the acquisition cost. .

https://onlinedomain.com/2017/04/11...month-ever-propertyphotos-com-ukcannabis-com/

Simple. He doesn’t report all sales. Just like what all sane people would do. I write it in the article.

 

[boker]

https://onlinedomain.com/2017/04/11...month-ever-propertyphotos-com-ukcannabis-com/

Reading the article, it says 'probably', so he's just supposing that he could have more sales...It's like I say that I have 100 domains and sold 10 and somebody will say that 'probably' I have more- everybody can say whatever he wants, I know better what I have.

 

[Asfas1000]

He must be selling around 80 domains per month, so 27 is too far off.

 

[boker]

He must be selling around 80 domains per month, so 27 is too far off.

'He must be selling 80 domains a month' should be based on something, insides from MM accounting, or some friends saying something, just counting how many he owns and how many he should sell to make a profit doesn't work.

 

[Asfas1000]

I didn't work it out like this, instead I had read he sells 0,5% of his domains per year. Which is around 1000 domains a year, or 80/mo.

 

[boker]

I didn't work it out like this, instead I had read he sells 0,5% of his domains per year. Which is around 1000 domains a year, or 80/mo.

It could be true, but he was saying also that 237k is his best month, so probably that month had bigger sales by amount, but less by number, probably in other months the average sale is less and the number of sales higher.

 

[LovingLife]

.Com is becoming more dominant... People that say otherwise are those without any decent .coms in their portfolio. (obviously they want to find reasons to bash the .com)

Alternatives like .Net are losing steam... Domains like .ME, .IO, .LY, have phases of being "fashionable" for startups, but they all end up buying the .com.

All these newbies trying to create a market for the gTLD's because they are the only domains that are easy to buy is just getting old... gTLDS failed.

Do your homework, work hard, and buy .com - It will continue to dominate... 99% of the people on NamePros will readily admit that if they were to start a real business, it would be on a .com domain...

Nothing against the .com I do have a few great ones in my portfolio, I will continue to buy them when the price is right. To say the .com is becoming more dominant is just silly, it is losing ground and will continue to lose ground.

 

[LovingLife]

If you have a really solid .com portfolio, pay attention for the next few years. The new names have killed the value of the .net and the .com may follow. I'm not saying it is going to happen but maybe pay attention. If you start seeing more and more of the new names in the search results, that could be a signal to sell.

 

[dordomai]

If you have a really solid .com portfolio, pay attention for the next few years. The new names have killed the value of the .net and the .com may follow. I'm not saying it is going to happen but maybe pay attention. If you start seeing more and more of the new names in the search results, that could be a signal to sell.

I doubt that this were the new names as most startups go to .io or .co as an alternative to .net.

Most sales got to .co or .io not the new TLDs.

I would watch .io and .co if worried

To say the .com is becoming more dominant is just silly, it is losing ground and will continue to lose ground.

it is not losing ground because people need a default extension, this could be anything like .cur or .dor or .im it does not matter but since we started with .com we will remain there.

alternatives will never eliminate the need for a default extension but they can eliminate competing alternatives.

 

[LovingLife]

it does not matter but since we started with .com we will remain there.

The .com is for sure to stay for many years the king of the hill. You have a point to watch the .io and the .co
I would also keep an eye out for the new names.

 

[TOP Registry]

But .com is the oldest one out there, to be honest .com still has great value.
New gLTD domains are developing.
Such as .top
According to the latest statistics released by the overseas statistics website namestat.org, in the world's new top-level domain name registration list,.TOP domain names ranked third on the list with 1,870,539 registrations.
I am optimistic about the future development of new top-level domain .top.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

But .com is the oldest one out there, to be honest .com still has great value.
New gLTD domains are developing.
Such as .top
According to the latest statistics released by the overseas statistics website namestat.org, in the world's new top-level domain name registration list,.TOP domain names ranked third on the list with 1,870,539 registrations.
I am optimistic about the future development of new top-level domain .top.

I am pretty sure the day will come when everybody will register / purchase .top domains.
There is no logical reason why this should not happen.

 

[ben pedri]

Yeah it makes them worth so much more? its like bringing your ugliest grossest friends with you to a party ,suddenly the average guy looks like rock hudson

 

[offthehandle]

But .com is the oldest one out there, to be honest .com still has great value.
New gLTD domains are developing.
Such as .top
According to the latest statistics released by the overseas statistics website namestat.org, in the world's new top-level domain name registration list,.TOP domain names ranked third on the list with 1,870,539 registrations.
I am optimistic about the future development of new top-level domain .top.

I see .Top chinese registry account was just closed. So what happened? They had a credit card bounce? Lol.

 

[boker]

I doubt that this were the new names as most startups go to .io or .co as an alternative to .net.

Most sales got to .co or .io not the new TLDs.

I would watch .io and .co if worried



it is not losing ground because people need a default extension, this could be anything like .cur or .dor or .im it does not matter but since we started with .com we will remain there.

alternatives will never eliminate the need for a default extension but they can eliminate competing alternatives.

What do you think about the new google update from last the days, do you think it will affect com and all gtlds by enforcing local results? I've tested it and out of top 50 results for 'club' keyword, only one .com(tripadvisor) the rest of them were cctld. For 'shop', were 4 .com and 1 .shop out of 50 and only 2 of them in english, the rest of them in local language, no more ebay, no amazon. How .com will grow or keep his value, if it's almost impossible to rank it in the first pages at google? If ebay or amazon can't take one of the top 50 pages, how easy will be for a random website using .com? If you don't use general english words and use local one's, than it's impossible to rank it even in top 100 pages. I wonder, with this change, google will enforce .us or .com as local in US? So probably by time, if they keep this update working, .com will be used mostly in US and just by a few international companies as backup. Even for 'news', random local blogs with less than 1k visitors rank much higher than reuters, cnn and the others.

 

[dordomai]

What do you think about the new google update from last the days, do you think it will affect com and all gtlds by enforcing local results? I've tested it and out of top 50 results for 'club' keyword, only one .com(tripadvisor) the rest of them were cctld.

not sure what you mean but when I search locally I always got mostly ccTLDs(depending on the language)

For 'shop', were 4 .com and 1 .shop out of 50 and only 2 of them in english, the rest of them in local language, no more ebay, no amazon. How .com will grow or keep his value, if it's almost impossible to rank it in the first pages at google?

one can't invest based on algo changes and could not for a long time. Google will make changes and reverse them a few months later only to reintroduce them again.

In 2017 domains don't matter that much in SEO. It is not that relevant what Google does with domains.What is important is that you have good content and strong brand.

When you buy a domain you buy a brand not a SEO hack. A brand will work when you have an extension that your target market internet users are most familiar with.

In France that means you buy a .fr. in China a .com and in Russia a .ru. If you want to target a global market you use a .com. There aren't any alternatives really.

If ebay or amazon can't take one of the top 50 pages, how easy will be for a random website using .com? If you don't use general english words and use local one's, than it's impossible to rank it even in top 100 pages. I wonder, with this change, google will enforce .us or .com as local in US? So probably by time, if they keep this update working, .com will be used mostly in US and just by a few international companies as backup. Even for 'news', random local blogs with less than 1k visitors rank much higher than reuters, cnn and the others.

In my opinion you are seeing what you want to see. For some reason you want to see .com dead. Nothing has changed really. 15 years ago the situation was not much different than today. Businesses do with domains what they always did. People are saying SEO is dead, .com is dead for 20 years and it never happened. I don't know what else to say.