Are gTLDs affecting .Com price and growth

Discussion in 'gTLD Discussion' started by Isac, Oct 3, 2017.

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  1. Isac

    Isac I choose Humanity Business Account

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    I think there is a decline in demand and price of .com domains because of new gTLDs. What's your opinion ?
     
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  2. dordomai

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    No I think prices move up and down and it has little to do with the nGTLDs. in my opinion only very low quality .coms would be affected.

    .com is still growing while new extensions are declining.

    There are other factors that affect the market that matter much more than the 'new Gs'
     
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  3. Kuffy

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    I'm hoping that the reverse is true. I don't think that anyone with a decent .com will switch to another extension, but the new TLDs may be encouraging people to start their own website, and then experience may lead them to switch to a .com when they find one.
     
  4. boker

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    I don't have time now, but in one of the next days I could make a selection of names sold 5-7-10 years ago and which are for sale now or they were sold lately again, the prices are down even by 90% in some cases, I would like to see, if there are, some premium .com that have sold a few years ago for a certain amount and which were resold again in the last year or so higher, I don't think you could find even 5 examples. The first affected are truly the lower end value of com's, but it's like a chain reaction: the buyers of low cost com's are going to ngtlds, because of this, the prices of average 1k-3k are down, because it's less competition, to much inventory and multiple choices and it's going like this all the way up. My vision is that .com will always be the king, but I think it will drop in value until it will reach around 30% of the top prices from some years ago, 50% of the 1k or so ngtld will not survive(something like mobi), 25% will be average(like info-biz now) and 25% will do good, some will replace a part of the mid value .com's. Probably you can still find some high end sales for certain names, but these sales will not be a norm, more some isolate examples. Also, we have the crypto currencies market, parking and online ads value going down, alternative investments. The true is that around 60% of unicorn companies are still choosing .com for now, but you should consider that a few years ago 90% of them were choosing com and also the unicorn companies represent less than 1% of the total number of companies. 99% of the 6k startups born every day will afford a low cost brandable .com or a catchy ngtld, so all the statistics about what extension are using the companies raising millions/billions are not so important for 90% of the rest of us.
     
  5. Kuffy

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    What's a unicorn company?
     
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    'A unicorn is a startup company valued at over $1 billion. The term was coined in 2013 by venture capitalist Aileen Lee, choosing the mythical animal to represent the statistical rarity of such successful ventures.'
    This is the standard definition but I think that you can name a unicorn company any company with a value of over 100 millions and which has a bright future.
     
  7. Kuffy

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    Thanks for the explanation - it doesn't seem to have much to do with the reality of unicorns though.:)

    To refer to you earlier post, I'm not sure that the new TLDs have anything to do with .com values, other than increasing interest. I suspect that economic changes, and the rise of facebook, youtube and other social sites has more of an influence.
     
  8. urlurl

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    I feel the .com is the safe haven of domain extension. i do believe it will affect the other original extensions (.org, net, info, etc)

    As an end user (believing my business will be a success) i would want to secure the .com before looking at loading up on other extensions... and if i did. it would only be used a shortner.
     
  9. JB Lions

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    Might be the most ridiculous thing I've read today, but the day is young.

    You can find examples of anything. The Namebio blog goes thru past sales. Some go up, some go down.
     
  10. bmugford

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    There is certainly not a re-seller decline. Have you been watching auctions on popular venues?
    Almost every marginal .COM is going for mid $XXX+ now.

    Brad
     
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    I know that for you everything is ridiculous when it's something about com. Just make a minimal effort and check namebio sales from 2007-2017, they have a statistic made on a daily basis with all the sales and you will see the treand. Also, it's fairly easy to check how many sales are made through namejet, dropcatch and the others( 90% resellers sales) and how many sales are made through sedo, flippa and some other venues where there are mostly end users, and compare the same data from 1-2-5 years ago, you will notice that now most of the reported sales are from resellers and 3-4 times less reported sales by end users compared with was a few years back, I have 80% of my names in com as well, but you're like a blind horse, which can see just in front and don't want to notice the general trend.
     
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    I think you're right, for resellers, these are highest acquisition prices in the last years, but when you check sedo, flippa, afternic, the average price is less than half of what it was a couple of years ago and also the number of sales are way down, where there are mostly end users involved. I don't blame only ngtlds, but it's all a chain reaction with multiple causes, but the fact it that end users sales are at a crosspoint...
     
  13. Impaler The Vlad

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    YES...... domains rise and fall together.
     
  14. Adam27

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    No

    They make good .com, .org, and ccTLDs a more attractive deal. :)
     
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    Fact
     
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    I'm curious, is there data to suggest there is a decline in demand and price of .com domains, and that the decline can be attributed to new gTLDs ?
     
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    Do you think these price increases will sustain and continue to increase?
     
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    I would say that end user demand seems to have remained about the same while re-seller prices have climbed drastically. Now pretty much any decent .COM is around mid $XXX re-seller.

    The math made a lot more sense when you could get decent names for $50 - $100.

    When you factor in the average turnover rate, you need higher margins on the domains that do sell to cover the ones that don't.

    Brad
     
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    I do not think people even know that new gtlds even exist. It can't possibly effect dot com prices. There are many domainers who went broke buying them. That's about it.
     
  20. Adam27

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  21. Isac

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    I agree with you there is no reseller decline
     
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    The value of the new gtld's will be seen in years, not 2-3-4 years, but 10-15.
    .com has value because is the oldest one out there.
     
  23. lock

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    We are in the business of speculation. Look at the extensions sold of popular keywords and see it was bought up in many extensions long before gtld. You need to have the best name plus gtld and you need to have it in an extension that others are going to buy also.
     
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    .info, .biz, .pro are 15+ years old and they are not a great investment proposition.
     
  25. bmugford

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    But, this time it will be different...............

    Brad
     

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