discuss New Gtlds Why Not?

[SYAS]

i start this thread for talk about future new gtlds ?
why We are only looking Domain dot Com if new gtlds change All predictions what your action ?
google future use new gtlds for smart Sorting results ?
why we buy Long names at dot Com While names of the best available at new gtlds ?
and more why you can talk about this challenge and add your idea to this thread

 

[ChubbyDfat]

1. The Hype
2. The Handful of High Dollar Aquisitions
3. The Speculation about .COM's ending days.
4. The Decline of the Hype
5. The Drops

No amount of promotion for gTLDs is going to overshadow the promotion of turning on your TV and only hearing and seeing .COM, back, to back, to back.

I have not heard anyone speculating the ending of .COM. I hear more the trumpet playing for competition to .COM and as we all know competition is a health thing.

Many of these extensions will just fade away into the background.
I am not sure if you noticed but there are several hundred company brand name domains that are NOT being brought to market. Nissan owns .Nissan,. McDonalds owns .Mcd, and several hundred more.
None of these are going to be for public domain purchase.

Times are indeed changing. .COM still has (something like) 120 Million domains purchased and most of them are being utilized. No one can compare to that and I do not think that anyone wants to attempt to.
However, alternatives are popping up all the time. Domaining as we know it today, will probably change because of this. Those who learn to adapt to changing times will succeed, others will not.

Drops are always going to happen because people go in with guns blazing and not thinking. A bad domain is a bad domain no matter what extension you put it in. Too many people think that the same rules that apply to .COMs will apply here as well. A small dictionary word will bring in millions and that is not true. Nobody wants "clam (dot) horse" (for example) but yet someone out there may have registered it thinking that Clam (dot) come is worth $10,000 so clam (dot) horse is worth at least $1,000 and to their dismay, they drop it after a year of being told that the domain sucks (which it does).

Its just and ebb and flow that is natural with life (not to try to get all metaphorical on you).

Cheers

 

[Rado_Ch]

Point I'm getting at is we've seen time and time again the same routine:

1. The Hype
2. The Handful of High Dollar Aquisitions
3. The Speculation about .COM's ending days.
4. The Decline of the Hype
5. The Drops

No amount of promotion for gTLDs is going to overshadow the promotion of turning on your TV and only hearing and seeing .COM, back, to back, to back.

If more people understand this 5 point routine it wouldn't be able to work so effectively for the patient users

this right look Which one beter theroosevelthotel.com or Theroosevelt.Hotel ?

A few years from now you would probably be able to go for The.Roosevelt.
Just you wait

 

[amirp]

If more people understand this 5 point routine it wouldn't be able to work so effectively for the patient users

A few years from now you would probably be able to go for The.Roosevelt.
Just you wait

if that happens it means there is market for it

 

[ChubbyDfat]

this right look Which one beter theroosevelthotel.com or Theroosevelt.Hotel ?

I think it comes down to more then looks. Maybe its just me, and maybe since I am not a full time domainer (only in hobby) but I have a different take.

To me the two words have to work together, at the very least on a simple level.
From my example above:
Clam (dot) Horse just sucks as a domain. Those two words do not fit together on any level related to real wold experiences. There may be a comic book out there about something that is half clam, half horse, half Kim Catrall (and yes that is a joke). For all intensive purposes, these two names do not work together in the least bit.

On the other hand, something that can mildly go together (not perfect but works) would be something like:
Credit (dot) Work. (I dont own this, I will just use it as an example). They dont flow 100% correctly but they do work together. They dont look perfect but it will still help you SEO better for the keyword Credit.
It works and should not be shunned.

I come from more of the point of view of what works. Function over style.
As far as theroosevelthotel.com vs. Theroosevelt.Hotel .... It is in my opinion that (SEO wise) TheRooseveltHotel.com. is the better choice.
My reasoning behind that statement is that the LEFT side of the dot matters the most.
The users will most likely type in the follwing keywords "The + Roosevelt + Hotel". The exact match credit will go to theroosevelthotel.com because of the left side exact match for SEO. Remember extensions do not play a roll in SEO (AGE of the domain withstanding).

But I do agree that TheRoosevelt.Hotel *looks* better.

Cheers

 

[SYAS]

I think it comes down to more then looks. Maybe its just me, and maybe since I am not a full time domainer (only in hobby) but I have a different take.

To me the two words have to work together, at the very least on a simple level.
From my example above:
Clam (dot) Horse just sucks as a domain. Those two words do not fit together on any level related to real wold experiences. There may be a comic book out there about something that is half clam, half horse, half Kim Catrall (and yes that is a joke). For all intensive purposes, these two names do not work together in the least bit.

On the other hand, something that can mildly go together (not perfect but works) would be something like:
Credit (dot) Work. (I dont own this, I will just use it as an example). They dont flow 100% correctly but they do work together. They dont look perfect but it will still help you SEO better for the keyword Credit.
It works and should not be shunned.

I come from more of the point of view of what works. Function over style.
As far as theroosevelthotel.com vs. Theroosevelt.Hotel .... It is in my opinion that (SEO wise) TheRooseveltHotel.com. is the better choice.
My reasoning behind that statement is that the LEFT side of the dot matters the most.
The users will most likely type in the follwing keywords "The + Roosevelt + Hotel". The exact match credit will go to theroosevelthotel.com because of the left side exact match for SEO. Remember extensions do not play a roll in SEO (AGE of the domain withstanding).

But I do agree that TheRoosevelt.Hotel *looks* better.

Cheers

thank your for your comment you right
but i think in future dot com lost Prestige same more Technology and anything that we had a lot of interest in the past and also i think in future google Is forced search right of the dot because we have more website and more new gtlds i think over 10000 name Comes into existence you only think about largest companies name same .total .toyota .bmw .benz and more...........

 

[ChubbyDfat]

thank your for your comment you right
but i think in future dot com lost Prestige same more Technology and anything that we had a lot of interest in the past and also i think in future google Is forced search right of the dot because we have more website and more new gtlds i think over 10000 name Comes into existence you only think about largest companies name same .total .toyota .bmw .benz and more...........

You maybe right. All we can go on now is speculation, but I think the end game will be an extension-less internet.
(I think it was some high up at Microsoft) Someone stated that with the advent of all the "SMART" technology (smart fridge, smart phone, smart car, smart clothes, smart house... etc) and everything being connected to the internet at all times, the use of extensions (.com, .net, .org... etc) will be a thing of the past in time.
Since everything will be linked to the internet, there will be no more need to type something out. It will just be "internet, tell me what movies are playing" and you get a list of movies and times in your area. "internet, find me the closes Italian restaurant" and up pops the list of restaurants closest to your current location. "internet, show me the newest song video" and then blammo... the newest song video start to play.

Its all theory for now. Some believe that is the direction we are going but it is anyone's guess at the moment.

Cheers

 

[SYAS]

You maybe right. All we can go on now is speculation, but I think the end game will be an extension-less internet.
(I think it was some high up at Microsoft) Someone stated that with the advent of all the "SMART" technology (smart fridge, smart phone, smart car, smart clothes, smart house... etc) and everything being connected to the internet at all times, the use of extensions (.com, .net, .org... etc) will be a thing of the past in time.
Since everything will be linked to the internet, there will be no more need to type something out. It will just be "internet, tell me what movies are playing" and you get a list of movies and times in your area. "internet, find me the closes Italian restaurant" and up pops the list of restaurants closest to your current location. "internet, show me the newest song video" and then blammo... the newest song video start to play.

Its all theory for now. Some believe that is the direction we are going but it is anyone's guess at the moment.

Cheers

and new gtlds Part of the evolution after .com .net .org and cctlds

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Yeah... we are witnessing the evolution of domains as a whole.
Like it or not... its happening. There is no going back.
nTLDs are here and are going to continue to come out for the foreseeable future.

As a domainer you are going to either have to learn to ignore them to the best of your ability, learn to create some sort of income stream from them, or just get out of the business all together.

I prefer the second choice but that is me. I have only been at this for 5 years (off again and on again) but in a hobby capacity.

Cheers

 

[biggie]

after you register a bunch of .hotel domains, then they will release .hotle.

 

[thomas5]

when will be net gtlds released?

 

[SYAS]

after you register a bunch of .hotel domains, then they will release .hotle.

:D

 

[SYAS]

when will be net gtlds released?

more released same .city .club .party and more you can check it icann.org

 

[amirp]

after you register a bunch of .hotel domains, then they will release .hotle.

if all the good .hotel names are taken, I dont see it why not. LOL

 

[thomas5]

ok thnks

 

[tomcarl]

At the end of the day there will be a few winners, ones like .app, .tv will grow, The technology/media extensions will do well, because the audience is young and savvy to adapt. Retail and everything else = mass confusion on the gTLDs

 

[Gobinath]

no doubt about gtlds, it is going to play a big role in the industry. a small business owner cant afford big money to buy .com, which may cost more than his capital investment, in this scenario gtlds will have good future.

there are people who cant digest new gtlds will always come with a point new gtlds are scrap. and i pretty much sure that those dotcom people will be booking new gtlds in near future.
it is not an replacement, just an substitute !
cheers!

 

[Asfas1000]

IMO the extension (tld) provides the "context", so at a glance one can tell if the website is
- a business (.com)
- a non-profit (.org)
- an informational site (.info)
- a video site (.tv)
- a German site (.de)
etc.

Replacing the extension with a keyword (.kitchen, .bike, .guru) breaks this "rule".

If this worked well, I would expect that .travel would have been a big success few years ago, no ?

We, as gtld investors, are trying to sell something to people who can't afford the .com (hence not enough money), have literally thousands of options, and still make a profit on top of the registry's profits. Quite an achievement ...LOL

 

[Kate]

Yeah... we are witnessing the evolution of domains as a whole.

After all those new extensions introduced over the last decade, you bet my life has changed a lot since then End users have hardly noticed...

At the end of the day there will be a few winners, ones like .app, .tv will grow, The technology/media extensions will do well, because the audience is young and savvy to adapt. Retail and everything else = mass confusion on the gTLDs

I am sure a few will do better than others. For example .club. But success is very relative. Even .club is very far from .biz, a TLD that has never been loved but is among the most successful of post-2000 extensions (supposedly).

If this worked well, I would expect that .travel would have been a big success few years ago, no ?

The problem with .travel, like .pro or .museum, is that there are few distribution channels. These TLDs are not available from the mainstream registrars. You have to go with second tier registrars, or downright obscure ones.
Also, you have to get a community identifier (or whatever they call it) in order to apply for the domains. And they are more or less expensive. You have to be quite motivated to get a .travel or a .jobs for example.

It is less a problem with newer extensions. Exposure has been improved - which is a bare minimum to get customers.

 

[SYAS]

We, as gtld investors, are trying to sell something to people who can't afford the .com (hence not enough money), have literally thousands of options, and still make a profit on top of the registry's profits. Quite an achievement ...LOL

more names at dot com taken in future people can not find good name in dot com and have two option for select
option a ) buy dot com at domain holder Very expensive
option b ) buy domain new gtlds

What happens who know ?

 

[ChubbyDfat]

After all those new extensions introduced over the last decade, you bet my life has changed a lot since then End users have hardly noticed...

Like most anything, there is a classic "S" curve pattern that needs to arise and you are pointing that fact out.
In the start of a change, there are very few adapters (those are the few that stand to make the most when the wave hits but we are not going to discuss that at the moment).
Only a handful (in this case, extensions and users) make the appearance. As time progresses, you see that there are more people jumping on the bandwagon until yo hit a point where things go parabolic (nearly straight up), at that point in time you ride it up until you reach "critical mass" and then it starts to level out.
They call that the classic S curve.
You will find it to be true in almost all facets of life.
The telephone. It went from nearly no adapters in the beginning, to more and more jumping on the band wagon, to parabolic to critical mass to the point that nearly every household (at one time) had a lan line.
Same with cars, computers, cell phones, CDs, DVDs, MP3, TVs, websites,... anything technology driven all fall into this S curve.

Granted the change is slow right now. Hell, this may only be the beginning stages and it may end up something completely different that we wont recognize at the moment.
But in the end, all things do change. Websites (to include .COM) where slow to take off in the beginning. Some businesses did not see the value of an online presence. Those that did (the early adapters) stood to make the most. Then you had the band wagon, then things went parabolic and now if you have a business, you have to have an online presence.

Its just the way things roll.

Cheers

 

[Jasonn]

no doubt about gtlds, it is going to play a big role in the industry. a small business owner cant afford big money to buy .com, which may cost more than his capital investment, in this scenario gtlds will have good future.

there are people who cant digest new gtlds will always come with a point new gtlds are scrap. and i pretty much sure that those dotcom people will be booking new gtlds in near future.
it is not an replacement, just an substitute !
cheers!

everyone always goes about how businesses can't afford good .coms and they'll turn to gltds but i guess that would mean as a domainer you won't be able to charge much for the new gtlds. personally i'd rather invest in something that many see as out of reach than cheap stuff from the dollar store.

 

[SYAS]

everyone always goes about how businesses can't afford good .coms and they'll turn to gltds but i guess that would mean as a domainer you won't be able to charge much for the new gtlds. personally i'd rather invest in something that many see as out of reach than cheap stuff from the dollar store.

Reason created new gtlds for Eliminating Domain Holder

 

[noonoo1]

Who knows, I look forward to reading this thread again in 5 years time!

I have bought a few new gtlds as i think its worth a punt but i'm not spending like i did with .mobi

I got seriously burnt and a few others still on here back then and registered some seriously rubbish names and I paid over $8,000 for 1 name in 2007 and was regularly paying $$$ for lll.mobi lol

I should have listened and saved my money or better still payed $5,000 for porno.com in 2007

I feel sick thinking about it now !!!

True what they say, hindsight is 20 x 20 vision !

 

[Azwan Asban]

just stop it guys.. don't say again .com is down to lowball. Everyone need .com .. my thought new .gtld only for cover the trademarks,brands,
non-profit activities etc ..
nothing can changed .com for ever!

 

[Gobinath]

everyone always goes about how businesses can't afford good .coms and they'll turn to gltds but i guess that would mean as a domainer you won't be able to charge much for the new gtlds. personally i'd rather invest in something that many see as out of reach than cheap stuff from the dollar store.

@Jasonn
this is just a initial stage , the statistics say not even 60%of business end users in US are not aware of gtlds.
if gtlds are compare to flip, then that is wrong assumption. apart from flipping the gtld domains are worth in future.
my point is not all gtlds are worth, there will be atleast 100+ extensions going to be worth.
as you knew already dotxyz and dotclub are registration are increasing. similarly dotparis, dotberlin, dotvegas, dotnyc .... all geographical locations will be big hit
apart from these the possible gtlds are
.store
.sale
.app
.web
.host
and many .............. will be longstanding in the industry in future