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Appraisal Requests - Lack of Participation

Labeled as discuss in NamePros Community Help, started by Domainer Sid, Mar 8, 2021

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  1. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    Hello Fellows,

    Hope you had a fantastic weekend.

    There is a free appraisal section on this forum and I observe a serious lack of participation.

    Most of the threads have tons of views and 0 replies and remaining have just 1 or 2 replies.

    We totally understand appraising a domain is not as easy as it looks and some domains are not worth of our time.

    But I think for new joiners like me and several others, the Appraisals section will be very important to understand how the seniors and experienced people value the domains.

    A humble request to everyone to actively participate in Appraising domains as much as possible to make this community a valuable asset for everyone.

    Thanks,
    ~Sid
     
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  2. NonHipster

    NonHipster Established Member

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    Are there instructions and a link for participation?
     
  3. kite26

    kite26 Fearless Bird VIP

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    Lack of participation usually means that your domain is not so good to receive a serious appraisal (reg fee). Not every time, but usually. I mean, there is a lot of people asking appraisal for bad names and members give their appraisal for the best names or the name which attrach some interest (for good or bad reason). Don't take it personally.
    At the end of the day, no appraisal is a form of appraisal too.
     
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  4. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    Agree and I have mentioned: We totally understand appraising a domain is not as easy as it looks and some domains are not worth of our time.
     
  5. griff

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    I think appraisals should be moved to a sub-section, rather than have it's own section prominently at the top of the site - it doesn't have much use.

    The idea is for newbies to spend a couple of months reading the forum, DNJournal, podcasts etc. before throwing their money in, instead of handregging hundreds of names & then getting defensive when people tell them they aren't good. A good 98% of names posted there fit into this category, and no one wants to receive a negative response for trying to help, hence the lack of responses.
     
  6. twiki

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    Experienced domainers here are totally discouraged to post in that section.

    There are 2 valid reasons for this:

    1) Most domains are weak or totally rubbish, and the newbies don't appreciate negative feedback although totally constructive. They feel offended so you don't get at least a "thanks" for making that effort;

    2) The thread is trolled by wannabe "experts" with no experience that answer to allmost all posts with a guesstimate they have prepared in their hat.

    The appraisal section has actually brought itself in this situation simply by the activity of those lurking there, unfortunately.
     
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  7. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    Totally Agree. All the new comers must accept the feedback in a positive way. After all it is coming from experience which we don't have.
     
  8. Lord Antares

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    It's like this:

    A newbie usually posts worthless domain names and asks for an appraisal. In 90% of the cases when you appraise the domain as worthless, they start getting defensive, call you a troll and start ranting how you can't see the big picture and how they are going to sell that domain for millions.

    I've had that happen enough times that it put me off appraising domains.
     
  9. kite26

    kite26 Fearless Bird VIP

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    Many newbies there, i agree.
    Many members who give bad appraisals, yeah, i agree too.

    But for you, i doesn't matter. You want to make your mind to work, not the mind of others. Use this section while you try to think as objectively as you can. It may take weeks, months or even years. At the end, you will see that this section and the rest of the forum will give you experience. Take this free experience and don't mind for other minor problems.
     
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  10. lock

    lock DomainUsed.com VIP

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    Besides the problem with slapping people down with truth there is sometimes aftermath i have had some negative seo attempts and negative reviews on web sites which they at most only surfed zero spent and cry rip off.
     
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  11. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    Everyone seems to have a genuine reason. What should be the solution to this?
    Some guidelines? Some Level of reviews based on reviewers experience? may be.
     
  12. J4wd

    J4wd PeerIdeas.com Gold Account

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    Perhaps an anonymous system for peer appraisals might help? 😁
     
  13. J4wd

    J4wd PeerIdeas.com Gold Account

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    All kidding aside, this is why I recently built an anonymous system so it removes the stigma of giving feedback (as well as receiving negative feedback), and it’s designed to work both ways so you can only submit your own names after voting.

    On the point of expertise, I’ve found that there’s wisdom in numbers. A single appraisal means nothing, but 30-50 shows a definite trend even across all skill and experience levels.
     
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  14. grandninja

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    I have experienced it.
     
  15. lock

    lock DomainUsed.com VIP

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    We live in a world of cancel culture.
     
  16. CraigD

    CraigD Top Contributor VIP

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    How are you ensuring that those names are actually owned by the people submitting them?
     
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  17. J4wd

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    With difficulty 😀 I follow a similar system to what sites like Sedo and DNWE use, so I verify registration and then spot check ownership for new members. Where I can’t verify it, I ask for proof.
     
  18. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    Everyone will agree , so far manual evaluation is much better than some coding logic doing it.

    I am not sure about forum rules, but Mods can put down certain criteria about who all can evaluate, if you honestly want someone experienced evaluate you domain and restrict others to do it.

    May be a bad idea, or may be not!
     
  19. J4wd

    J4wd PeerIdeas.com Gold Account

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    I asked the mods about it recently, and their response was:

    “You'd be hard-pressed to find more professionals, especially of domain names, anywhere else compared to NamePros.”

    So that means if you’re here, you’re already a pro. 😁
     
  20. CraigD

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    I think putting an emphasis on an actual monetary figure is part of the issue.

    I don't think members want to be drawn into staking their reputation on providing numbers.

    I'd like to see members give advice on the potential of names; the strengths and weaknesses, the potential markets available etc.

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  21. J4wd

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    That would be awesome, but it’s hard work. I’ve gone with a simple like/dislike for now. Immediate subjective reaction. If someone wants a more detailed appraisal, I think it’s only fair to pay for it.
     
  22. CraigD

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    Are we talking about NP or your site ;)
     
  23. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    Can we have a process , where the appraisal requester lists down why he bought that domain :

    1. Good for SEO - Keywords
    2. X number of search results in Google.
    3. Brand Potential. (Difficult to measure)
    4. Similar name sales reference.

    And appraisers can give rating to each point from 1 to 10. May not be monitory appraisal but surely a Quality wise appraisal.

    If the poster do not provide these details, the request will not be qualified.
     
  24. Domainer Sid

    Domainer Sid Established Member

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    So the whole point is to evaluate the domain on a Quality score and not on monetary level.
    Anyways, you will get some sense of monetary value when you know the quality of Domain name.
     
  25. CraigD

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    In principle I agree, but what you suggest is a bit too formal.

    Search result metrics can be fluid, eg. keyword popularity can come and go week to week.

    Keep it less formal. Members will respond to names that they think are worth evaluating
     

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