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Where was I? I had all my .com domains at Parked and everything else at Bodis. Back in February I was waxing lyrical about Parked being back on top of their game. I had 2 months where I received almost record payouts (of all time... maybe in 3-4 years of parking). Then everything fell off a cliff and I was getting approx 2/3rds less. On 7th July I received only about $6.50 in revenue, which was abysmal. The day before that I had decided to try Above.com.

What is Above.com? In short, it's a traffic forwarder to your Parking Accounts. It decides where to send the traffic for each domain based upon which parking service gives the best returns. This sounds great. No longer do you need to park a group of domains with company A for a couple of months, enter the results into a spreadsheet, then park them at company B for a couple of months, enter the results in a spreadsheet. And so on. Now all this is done in Real Time, by Above.com.

Who are Above.com? They are part of the Trellian network of companies, who I first came across using their KeywordDisovery.com tool. So, I had confidence in them from the getgo.

It was easy to setup an account. You then go to Manage Accounts and setup the Parking Companies you wish to use from the list of companies they support. I chose Bodis, Parked, TrafficZ, DomainSponsor. The latter two I probably haven't used in a couple of years. You need to provide your username and password for each account. Of course there is a slight risk in this, but given the size of Trellian, I didn't have a real problem with this.

You can then go to Manage Folders and setup Folders for groups of domains. I however, imported everything into the default folder. Subsequently, I created two other folders, 1) Revenue, and 2) No Revenue. I moved everything from the default folder to No Revenue, and then moved them to Revenue, once Above.com reported revenue. You do this by downloading the .CSV file for the Non-Revenue domains, sort the SpreadSheet by Revenue, and then copy/past these into the Add Domains to the Revenue Folder. There is no copy/move command in Above.com. You either Add or Remove Domains, and Above.com moves the domains to the new Folder.

You of course have to add all your domains to each Parking Service individually (even if this can be done in bulk).

What is Maximizer? This is Above.com's inhouse Parking Service. They say that by some complex algorythms they monetize visitors which are poorly monetized by regular parking companies. For example, Asian traffic. When I look at the stats compared to the other parking companies (which is easy to do by clicking on Statistics and choosing what you want), I see mostly very low rates per click, like $0.02, significantly less than the rates/click for the same domain from the other parking companies. Who is to say that Above.com got it right or not? Maximizer provided about 1/5th of my Total Revenue for August. I've turned it off for Sept to see how the portfolio perform without it.

The Statistics are very comprehensive. You can select one or more parking services and a whole slew of stats like clicks, revenue, EPC etc.

How is support? I think there is only 1 support personnel. I usually get answers to my questions in about 1-3 days. So not the speediest support in the world, but I can't think of any support question which requires an immediate reply. So i'm reasonably satisfied.

How did I do? Well Above.com say it takes about 2 months to get your portfolio optimized. It's now been just two months for me. So maybe my best month will be Sept. But anyhow, in August, my 2nd month, Above.com managed to give me returns just below my record earnings of February. So, about 80-100% better than my earnings in June. This is a significant jump in earnings. It was split (in approx terms) 20% each from Bodis, Maximizer, DomainSponsor, and most of the rest from Parked. Almost nothing from TrafficZ, barely making the minimum payment for both July and August.

The website is sometimes a bit flakey. Not really surprising considering the amount of data they must be churning out. But usually it works itself out within a short time, usually minutes. My biggest gripe is that the Statistics Reports only allow you report 100 domains per page (whereas the Reports allow 1000). Also that there is no portfolio total reported in the Stats. You have to add up each page total.

Am I going to continue with Above.com? You betcha! I've disable the Maximizer to see how my portfolio performs without it and I'll probably disable TrafficZ also. I'd recommend to anyone to try Above.com. It really take away the drudgery of manually testing domains at different parking services.
 
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OK. Another month over. I didn't post last month because there didn't seem anything significant to report. But in fact it turned out to be a reasonably good month. The first half was even better than my December record. But it dropped off in the second half.

March was just under 80% of my December record. so about the same as January, but worse than the short month of February. Bodis 40%, DomainSponsor 27% Parked 22% Maximizer 11%. So Parked is still dropping like a brick, leaving DomainSponsor as my 2nd largest provider. Bodis, aahh Bodis. Where would I be without you :)

---------- Post added at 09:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 AM ----------

My best Month so far had been Dec 2010 (understandably). as a % of Dec 2010 my other months revenue has been

June not a full month
July 79%
August 92% (3rd best month ever)
Sept 79%
Oct 79%
Nov 94% (2nd best month ever)
Dec 100% (best month ever)
Jan 80%
Feb 81%
Mar 78%

So for me, Dec runs about 25% above any other "normal" month.
 
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April was my worst month ever since starting this thread at only 70% of my record December earnings. The percentages by parking company were Bodis 44%, Domain Sponsor 32%, Parked 16%, Maximizer 8%. This poor performance has nothing to do with Above.com and all to do with the poor performance of Parked.com (mostly) and Maximizer.

Parked.com just stank last month. Their lowest ever showing, and I see no end to their demise in sight. Domain Sponsor had a strong month which appears to be continuing into May. The growth in Bodis is due more to the poor performance of Parked and Maximizer rather than their own performance, with flat earnings between March and April.
 
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Great thread

Hi Stub,

Great updates here on your experience with Above.com.

I'm new to this whole domain parking thing. I've just registered an account with Above.com. I have not yet registered with any parking companies. I was thinking of registering with all the ones supported by Above.com. But after reading your updates it sounds like that would be a bad idea.

So my question is should I set up accounts with the companies you're having success with i.e. Bodis, Domain Sponsor, Parked and Maximizer. Or should I not bother with Parked and Maximiser and just stick with the first two?

Or should I give others a try (like Sedo)?

Kind Regards,

iloveseo
 
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Each domain performs better with some parking companies rather than others. It's a matter of trial and error. What I really dislike about Sedo is they only pay you for the first click. They keep the revenue of subsequent clicks for themselves. But still some people still like them. I can't tell if it's from ignorance or not. In my experience you shouldn't have more than 3 parking companies plus Above's own Maximizer. In my experience you will get sub-optimal returns if you have more. Maximizer supposedly gives you returns which which are higher than you might get from other companies. I think this is true, since I got higher total return with it turned on rather than when it was turned off.
 
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Thanks Stub,

I'll give the ones you're using a go and see how it goes.

Regards,

iloveseo
 
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What I really dislike about Sedo is they only pay you for the first click.
Are you sure it's specific to Sedo ?
I believe Bodis also stopped paying multiple clicks a long time ago, cause they have to keep advertisers happy.
 
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I noticed the ads served by Bodis are Google ads. I'm wondering wouldn't it be more profitable to go via Google Adsense for Domains? Therefore cutting out the middleman?

Kind Regards,

iloveseo
 
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Are you sure it's specific to Sedo ?
I believe Bodis also stopped paying multiple clicks a long time ago, cause they have to keep advertisers happy.

No that wouldn't be us.

We've always paid for multiple clicks! B-)
 
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I don't have any experience of any other parking company doing this than Sedo. Most do pay for multiple clicks. as cfguru360 confirms Bodis do. So do Parked. I think DomainSponsor too.
 
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Where was I? I had all my .com domains at Parked and everything else at Bodis. Back in February I was waxing lyrical about Parked being back on top of their game. I had 2 months where I received almost record payouts (of all time... maybe in 3-4 years of parking). Then everything fell off a cliff and I was getting approx 2/3rds less. On 7th July I received only about $6.50 in revenue, which was abysmal. The day before that I had decided to try Above.com.

What is Above.com? In short, it's a traffic forwarder to your Parking Accounts. It decides where to send the traffic for each domain based upon which parking service gives the best returns. This sounds great. No longer do you need to park a group of domains with company A for a couple of months, enter the results into a spreadsheet, then park them at company B for a couple of months, enter the results in a spreadsheet. And so on. Now all this is done in Real Time, by Above.com.

Who are Above.com? They are part of the Trellian network of companies, who I first came across using their KeywordDisovery.com tool. So, I had confidence in them from the getgo.

It was easy to setup an account. You then go to Manage Accounts and setup the Parking Companies you wish to use from the list of companies they support. I chose Bodis, Parked, TrafficZ, DomainSponsor. The latter two I probably haven't used in a couple of years. You need to provide your username and password for each account. Of course there is a slight risk in this, but given the size of Trellian, I didn't have a real problem with this.

You can then go to Manage Folders and setup Folders for groups of domains. I however, imported everything into the default folder. Subsequently, I created two other folders, 1) Revenue, and 2) No Revenue. I moved everything from the default folder to No Revenue, and then moved them to Revenue, once Above.com reported revenue. You do this by downloading the .CSV file for the Non-Revenue domains, sort the SpreadSheet by Revenue, and then copy/past these into the Add Domains to the Revenue Folder. There is no copy/move command in Above.com. You either Add or Remove Domains, and Above.com moves the domains to the new Folder.

You of course have to add all your domains to each Parking Service individually (even if this can be done in bulk).

What is Maximizer? This is Above.com's inhouse Parking Service. They say that by some complex algorythms they monetize visitors which are poorly monetized by regular parking companies. For example, Asian traffic. When I look at the stats compared to the other parking companies (which is easy to do by clicking on Statistics and choosing what you want), I see mostly very low rates per click, like $0.02, significantly less than the rates/click for the same domain from the other parking companies. Who is to say that Above.com got it right or not? Maximizer provided about 1/5th of my Total Revenue for August. I've turned it off for Sept to see how the portfolio perform without it.

The Statistics are very comprehensive. You can select one or more parking services and a whole slew of stats like clicks, revenue, EPC etc.

How is support? I think there is only 1 support personnel. I usually get answers to my questions in about 1-3 days. So not the speediest support in the world, but I can't think of any support question which requires an immediate reply. So i'm reasonably satisfied.

How did I do? Well Above.com say it takes about 2 months to get your portfolio optimized. It's now been just two months for me. So maybe my best month will be Sept. But anyhow, in August, my 2nd month, Above.com managed to give me returns just below my record earnings of February. So, about 80-100% better than my earnings in June. This is a significant jump in earnings. It was split (in approx terms) 20% each from Bodis, Maximizer, DomainSponsor, and most of the rest from Parked. Almost nothing from TrafficZ, barely making the minimum payment for both July and August.

The website is sometimes a bit flakey. Not really surprising considering the amount of data they must be churning out. But usually it works itself out within a short time, usually minutes. My biggest gripe is that the Statistics Reports only allow you report 100 domains per page (whereas the Reports allow 1000). Also that there is no portfolio total reported in the Stats. You have to add up each page total.

Am I going to continue with Above.com? You betcha! I've disable the Maximizer to see how my portfolio performs without it and I'll probably disable TrafficZ also. I'd recommend to anyone to try Above.com. It really take away the drudgery of manually testing domains at different parking services.
nice info, thanks.
 
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Thanks for all of the great info on above.com. I had mainly used parked.com for the last year or so, and while I don't have any great domains that have a ton of traffic, I was pleased with how parked.com did for the domains that do have traffic.

Lately though the numbers have been about 30% or less of what I'd been getting. This started about a month or two ago :(

I'm definitely looking forward to trying above.com and using them to see which parking service performs better for the various domains I have.

I do have one question though that I couldn't seem to find an answer on. How does Above.com make money for themselves with this free service?
 
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Thru their own parking service, Maximizer. And, like all parking companies, they get traffic from domains which are in nobody's account.
 
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how good is whypark compared with the above.com solution? Would bing/yahoo de-index any parking type domains?
 
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whypark is completely different to above. whypark is a parking solution, whereas above lets you test out various parking solution to see which performs best. So you could redirect from above to whypark as well as other parking providers, to see which pays the most. It's done automatically. I can't comment (at least intelligently) on bing/yahoo strategies.
 
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May jumped back from my terrible April numbers to be 81% of my Dec 2010 record earnings. The Revenues by Parking company were relatively stable at Bodis 45%, DomainSponsor 30%, Parked 20%, and Maximizer 5%.

But 1st half of June is looking very bad again. We shall see at the end of the month.
 
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i don't have understand some things....
1)so does above.com pay only the maximizer revenues?? because the others are given by each company we have subscribed.

2) How the rotation works?
does above test a domain each day with all parking service we have enabled and take the best revenues service for each day?
or it choose a company each day and is it whatching which pay the most?
in all case meanwhile maximizer works!

i have an above account.. but when i check my revenues on it they are different with the other i watch on relative parking company and i talk about also many days ago not in real time so could be the little refresh delay..
i will be happy to have a service like above and i'm going to use it if it works because i spend too many time to do all manually.
i hope to understand these things because i'm very sceptical now.
thanks to all for the help
 
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1) Yep
2) It takes about 2 months to optimize. After which the hits go to the best paying company for that domain. Then if the revenue drops at that domain at that parking company, they optimize again. Also, they check a small percentage of the domains on a rotating basis.
3) The figures in red can be different from the parking companies because they are not in real time (they only check the revenue a few times a day) but I have found the black figures are always agreeing with the parking companies.

I'd say you can use Above.com with confidence. I do.
 
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2) It takes about 2 months to optimize. After which the hits go to the best paying company for that domain. Then if the revenue drops at that domain at that parking company, they optimize again. Also, they check a small percentage of the domains on a rotating basis.
3) The figures in red can be different from the parking companies because they are not in real time (they only check the revenue a few times a day) but I have found the black figures are always agreeing with the parking companies.

2) ok but i don't understand how the optimization work.. do they try the domain each single day for each different parking service have we enabled? or they test every day with our enabled service and take the better, or other methods?
ok for 2 months optimization and for changing if revenues drop i have understood.

3) yeah, sorry my fault because i have checked with error. revenues stream are equal the single service provide.
 
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You will have to ask Above.com if you want specific info on how their optimization works. I don't work for Above.com. I'm only a very satisfied user. (But it's my understanding that they will send different uniques to different parking companies all in the same day, but I don't know how long they do this before they decide which is the best company to use).
 
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For the past two days Above.com has been rerouting all my traffic to some other landing page and my revenue is down to zero. I called their US office and they said they are under a DoS attack and needed to take that measure to minimize losses.

Well at least for me a 100% loss is far from minimal. What really surprises me is that there is NO official announcement on their site regarding this very critical situation which can potentially impact a lot of customers.

Has anyone here experienced the same problem?
 
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