Above.com Review

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Where was I? I had all my .com domains at Parked and everything else at Bodis. Back in February I was waxing lyrical about Parked being back on top of their game. I had 2 months where I received almost record payouts (of all time... maybe in 3-4 years of parking). Then everything fell off a cliff and I was getting approx 2/3rds less. On 7th July I received only about $6.50 in revenue, which was abysmal. The day before that I had decided to try Above.com.

What is Above.com? In short, it's a traffic forwarder to your Parking Accounts. It decides where to send the traffic for each domain based upon which parking service gives the best returns. This sounds great. No longer do you need to park a group of domains with company A for a couple of months, enter the results into a spreadsheet, then park them at company B for a couple of months, enter the results in a spreadsheet. And so on. Now all this is done in Real Time, by Above.com.

Who are Above.com? They are part of the Trellian network of companies, who I first came across using their KeywordDisovery.com tool. So, I had confidence in them from the getgo.

It was easy to setup an account. You then go to Manage Accounts and setup the Parking Companies you wish to use from the list of companies they support. I chose Bodis, Parked, TrafficZ, DomainSponsor. The latter two I probably haven't used in a couple of years. You need to provide your username and password for each account. Of course there is a slight risk in this, but given the size of Trellian, I didn't have a real problem with this.

You can then go to Manage Folders and setup Folders for groups of domains. I however, imported everything into the default folder. Subsequently, I created two other folders, 1) Revenue, and 2) No Revenue. I moved everything from the default folder to No Revenue, and then moved them to Revenue, once Above.com reported revenue. You do this by downloading the .CSV file for the Non-Revenue domains, sort the SpreadSheet by Revenue, and then copy/past these into the Add Domains to the Revenue Folder. There is no copy/move command in Above.com. You either Add or Remove Domains, and Above.com moves the domains to the new Folder.

You of course have to add all your domains to each Parking Service individually (even if this can be done in bulk).

What is Maximizer? This is Above.com's inhouse Parking Service. They say that by some complex algorythms they monetize visitors which are poorly monetized by regular parking companies. For example, Asian traffic. When I look at the stats compared to the other parking companies (which is easy to do by clicking on Statistics and choosing what you want), I see mostly very low rates per click, like $0.02, significantly less than the rates/click for the same domain from the other parking companies. Who is to say that Above.com got it right or not? Maximizer provided about 1/5th of my Total Revenue for August. I've turned it off for Sept to see how the portfolio perform without it.

The Statistics are very comprehensive. You can select one or more parking services and a whole slew of stats like clicks, revenue, EPC etc.

How is support? I think there is only 1 support personnel. I usually get answers to my questions in about 1-3 days. So not the speediest support in the world, but I can't think of any support question which requires an immediate reply. So i'm reasonably satisfied.

How did I do? Well Above.com say it takes about 2 months to get your portfolio optimized. It's now been just two months for me. So maybe my best month will be Sept. But anyhow, in August, my 2nd month, Above.com managed to give me returns just below my record earnings of February. So, about 80-100% better than my earnings in June. This is a significant jump in earnings. It was split (in approx terms) 20% each from Bodis, Maximizer, DomainSponsor, and most of the rest from Parked. Almost nothing from TrafficZ, barely making the minimum payment for both July and August.

The website is sometimes a bit flakey. Not really surprising considering the amount of data they must be churning out. But usually it works itself out within a short time, usually minutes. My biggest gripe is that the Statistics Reports only allow you report 100 domains per page (whereas the Reports allow 1000). Also that there is no portfolio total reported in the Stats. You have to add up each page total.

Am I going to continue with Above.com? You betcha! I've disable the Maximizer to see how my portfolio performs without it and I'll probably disable TrafficZ also. I'd recommend to anyone to try Above.com. It really take away the drudgery of manually testing domains at different parking services.
 
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Sorting by revenue, at least gives you some ideas about your weaker domains which you might want to drop, or stronger ones which you'd want to keep. But I'm not saying that might replace your comprehensive strategies, or that you could not sort any/all your folders by revenue, and make the same decisions on a folder by folder bases. I think I'm buying better domains now than I did 4 years ago. But this will only be proved by future sales, and/or future higher parking revenues :)
 
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Any ideas about Parklogik.com compared with Above.com ?
 
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The "ww+number" in the URL from Above to the parking companies, indicates which parking service is being used. Below is a list of the more common parking service identifiers, but there are many more of them.

1 | SEDO
2 | DomainSponsor
3 | DomainApps
5 | NameDrive
6 | SmartName
10 | Fabulous
16 | Hitfarm
17 | Skenzo
23 | DDC
25 | Bodis
31 | DomainAdvertising
34 | Overdrive
35 | RookMedia
36 | InternetTraffic
38 | ParkingCrew
43 | Voodoo
 
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Any ideas about Parklogik.com compared with Above.com ?

Both optimize parking earnings for domains over multiple parking services. The intelligent algorithm driving both platforms is similar.

ParkLogic vs. Above

PL - you outsource the management of your domains to PL. PL optimizes your earnings and takes a fee from your earnings for their service. You are paid your parking earnings by PL. You are use PL's parking feeds as you do not have a direct relationship with the parking service providers.

Above - you enter your existing parking account information into the Above platform along with you domains. Above optimizes your traffic. You keep 100% of your earnings from parking companies and parking companies pay you directly. Service at Above is free. You have additional revenue earning opportunity at Above with Maximizer. When Maximizer is enabled, Above will let direct advertisers (zero click) compete with the parking companies for your traffic. Earnings from Maximizer are paid by Above.
 
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The "ww+number" in the URL from Above to the parking companies, indicates which parking service is being used. Below is a list of the more common parking service identifiers, but there are many more of them.

That's interesting. I never thought about that before. Don't know why :)
 
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Both optimize parking earnings for domains over multiple parking services. The intelligent algorithm driving both platforms is similar.

ParkLogic vs. Above

PL - you outsource the management of your domains to PL. PL optimizes your earnings and takes a fee from your earnings for their service. You are paid your parking earnings by PL. You are use PL's parking feeds as you do not have a direct relationship with the parking service providers.

Above - you enter your existing parking account information into the Above platform along with you domains. Above optimizes your traffic. You keep 100% of your earnings from parking companies and parking companies pay you directly. Service at Above is free. You have additional revenue earning opportunity at Above with Maximizer. When Maximizer is enabled, Above will let direct advertisers (zero click) compete with the parking companies for your traffic. Earnings from Maximizer are paid by Above.

When entering our parking account information, is it secure? I assume that our account ID and password is being entered and wanted to make sure that its encrypted.
 
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When entering our parking account information, is it secure? I assume that our account ID and password is being entered and wanted to make sure that its encrypted.

I think that is something you should look up on the Above.com website or fire off a support question to them.
 
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Both optimize parking earnings for domains over multiple parking services. The intelligent algorithm driving both platforms is similar.

ParkLogic vs. Above

PL - you outsource the management of your domains to PL. PL optimizes your earnings and takes a fee from your earnings for their service. You are paid your parking earnings by PL. You are use PL's parking feeds as you do not have a direct relationship with the parking service providers.

Above - you enter your existing parking account information into the Above platform along with you domains. Above optimizes your traffic. You keep 100% of your earnings from parking companies and parking companies pay you directly. Service at Above is free. You have additional revenue earning opportunity at Above with Maximizer. When Maximizer is enabled, Above will let direct advertisers (zero click) compete with the parking companies for your traffic. Earnings from Maximizer are paid by Above.

Thank you! Very helpfull!
 
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When entering our parking account information, is it secure? I assume that our account ID and password is being entered and wanted to make sure that its encrypted.

Yes it is secure. Password is encrypted so even Above support cannot see it. The UN and PW are required to pull stats, but Above is never authorized to log into your account even if the password was made available.

Regards,
Victor
 
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Thank you Victor.

Yes it is secure. Password is encrypted so even Above support cannot see it. The UN and PW are required to pull stats, but Above is never authorized to log into your account even if the password was made available.

Regards,
Victor
 
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pfloyd said:
I disagree with the 3 parking company strategy as a hard rule

I refer you to my "interesting conversation" above. Assuming for arguments sake, and being quite close to reality for the ordinary joe, it takes one month to optimize a portfolio. The problem is that Above can only optimize between 2 companies at a time. So that's 1 month. Add a third company is another 1 month, adding a fourth company, is another 1 month, adding a fifth company adds another 1 month. So if you have five companies, it takes 4 months to optimize your portfolio.

But hey, it gets worse. How do Above select the order in which the companies are optimized. They won't tell you. But from my non-scientific (observational) tests they take them in alphabetical order, not in the order of who has historically paid the most. In my case, the two lowest payers were both at the beginning of the alphabet. My revenue plummeted at least 50%+ after I triggered my account to be optimized, because all of a sudden my two lowest payers were the preferred destination of choice for the clicks. IMHO, they are sub-optimal in optimizing your portfolio with more than 3 parking companies. After correcting for this sub-optimal optimizing, my revenue went back to approximately where it was before.

As a consequence, as of today, I have discontinued DS and Bodis, leaving only 3 companies PC,RM,Voodoo.

Now Above.com argue I shouldn't do this because their optimization will always provide the best results. That may be true, until your portfolio needs to be re-optimized. Then you will lose out big time. And besides, I really don't want to deal with companies which are paying me low $x-xx a month. I'm happier one of my other companies takes over the responsibility, even if potentially, they pay me less.
 
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NooB question here...Can I just add the Parking accounts in Above.com having added my domains to Bodis etc? Do I have to first have the domains active on Bodis for example, by pointing nameservers there? Then switch them to Above.com afterwards?

Right now all my uploaded domains on Bodis read "inactive".

Sorry confused...thanks!
 
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-add all your domains to each of the parking services you need to use (make sure that above.com supports them)
-add all your domains to above.com
-change nameservers for all your domains to above.com's nameservers (ie. ns1.above.com , ns2.above.com)
-make sure you have created accounts for all the parking services you're going to use within above.com's 'add account' section (better not to forget this)

you're good to go :)
 
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@sirlordcomic - You need to add all your parked domains to both Bodis.com and Above.com before you change the domains nameservers to above.com. While you are at this, I'd highly recommend that you also open accounts at Voodoo.com and ParkingCrew.com as well. Because you will get more benefit from the competition created. Also, although there is maybe some data benefit from using Above.com as the data source for all you 1 parking company strategy, the real power of Above.com is being lost, if you only use the 1 parking company.

Yes and @Hypersot is correct. You need to add Bodis.com and whoever else as an account with Above.com (which might be the solution to your current problem).
 
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Old thread, but great information. I am super negligent about properly optimizing all of my domains. It's always on my list, but with over 1K domains, the thought of this project is daunting. But one thing this thread made me think about; what parking companies are people using nowadays? It seems like some of those referenced in this thread are no longer around. I use ParkingCrew, Bodis, Sedo and Voodoo. Is there any others that I should be looking at?
 
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Old thread, but great information. I am super negligent about properly optimizing all of my domains. It's always on my list, but with over 1K domains, the thought of this project is daunting. But one thing this thread made me think about; what parking companies are people using nowadays? It seems like some of those referenced in this thread are no longer around. I use ParkingCrew, Bodis, Sedo and Voodoo. Is there any others that I should be looking at?

For 1k domains, I'd drop SEDO .. or, if you really want 4 parking services, replace it with DomainSponsor

If you want more details, shoot me a pm
 
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For 1k domains, I'd drop SEDO .. or, if you really want 4 parking services, replace it with DomainSponsor

If you want more details, shoot me a pm
Why Sedo and what is it with 1K that makes them not so good?
 
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Old thread, but great information. I am super negligent about properly optimizing all of my domains. It's always on my list, but with over 1K domains, the thought of this project is daunting. But one thing this thread made me think about; what parking companies are people using nowadays? It seems like some of those referenced in this thread are no longer around. I use ParkingCrew, Bodis, Sedo and Voodoo. Is there any others that I should be looking at?

I usually don't use any parking company which pays me less than $100/month for all my domains. Bodis qualified for this exclusion about 6 months ago. I'm not saying they are not a good parking company. I think they are. But cannot compete with 1) Parking Crew, and 2) Voodoo. The only 2 parking companies I now use. Sedo has never competed well against these other three. And I don't like their policy of only paying for the first click with nothing for subsequent clicks. Unlike most parking companies, which pay for every click.
 
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Bodis used to be top payer. Now rook is the best parkingcrew second. Voodoo is quite good.
 
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@ngenme - For me Rook joined the <$100 club before Bodis. But it just depends on the type of domains. So each domainers experience could be different. All we can do is say what works best for us.
 
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