A little respect with sellers

[Salai Domains]

Hi friends! How are you today?

I'm writing this post because in most part of time I'm selling here at Namepros. I know that so many are doing the same thing here, and I feel that most of us have the same feeling that me.

We sellers always are clicking at the section of Namepros called "Request Domains" at "Market Place". There we can find a lot of possible buyers asking for domains (WTB).

So we sellers, get the names form our list, we clicked at the name, we start a conversation, and no one answer us. Some buyers, sometimes, writing at the Request "I will only answer if I like"

So I have one question for all, Do you like to offer anything for somebody and the other guy ignore you?

Please show a little respect for us the sellers, just say "No I don't want your domains, thank you" (Copy paste from here.) It's easier for everyone and show respect in the trade.

This is just my opinion, I don't own the truth. I know the buyers receive a LOT of PM's when they post a thread asking for domains, but a simple answer changes everything.

 

[james haw]

Nope, It's about understanding that the lack of communication you are talking about does not exist as buyers have the right to choose who to reply to and it should always be as such.

I never said buyers should be forced to reply, in fact Dineshkp's idea I expanded on is still choice based, but makes it easier for the buyer which helps the seller.
You're argument about "lack of communication doesn't exist" is only based on your opinion that you don't care either way. Live and let live. A right to reply or not does not negate it being useful for a seller to receive a reply for closure.

It is a fake problem. I mean, it shouldn't even be an issue.

Based on your opinion, of course. Because you don't "care" at all. Some others do.And it's not so much a "problem" just something some sellers would like or welcome.
My not having a juicy cheeseburger right now is not a problem, but I'd happily scoff one.

Some sellers don't just PM their domains to everyone everywhere, they select carefully, and as such closure (yes/no) is "welcomed" - note: Not "required/should be enforced with a rusty nailed stick", just "it would be useful/nice/helpful".

 

[NameOmnia]

is only based on your opinion

Based on your opinion, of course. Because you don't "care" at all

EXACTLY.
Isn't everyone here sharing opinions? Mine is that yours is a fake problem.

Interestingly enough those who make an issue out of this are members who joined recently; maybe they are not used to "how things go" in the forum yet and they will.
BTW I am one of those who does her best to reply to all people who sell appropriate names, but I am also one of those who reports the hell out of those who don't.

 

[james haw]

EXACTLY.
Isn't everyone here sharing opinions? Mine is that yours is a fake problem.

But your opinion is "I don't care if I don't get a PM reply", and that's fine, but it's inaccurate to state "it's a fake problem", it's just "not a problem to you". The problem exists, defined by the users in the very thread you are discussing it in

Interestingly enough those who make an issue out of this are members who joined recently; maybe they are not used to "how things go" in the forum yet and they will.

Being new has nothing to do with personal preference. Of course they can "get used to" the way it is and not receiving replies, but really, more time on the forum does not mean you come to like it!

BTW I am one of those who does her best to reply to all people who sell appropriate names

That's great, so you agree with me then, surely? Why would you be against sellers trying to ask buyers to do something which you yourself already do?

but I am also one of those who reports the hell out of those who don't.

Good stuff. Will keep people at bay and threads and comms to a professional level. I would welcome more buyers to do this as I see a lot of offers not even close to the criteria, so sellers get penalised.
Should buyers be penalised instead when they report something which was not covered by their criteria? Or is there no risk for buyers here and only sellers can be "punished"? We're all "domainers".

 

[Salai Domains]

I agree again

 

[NameOmnia]

The problem exists

The "problem" ( or should we call it personal preference? ) is perceived as such by a handful of members so unless many more stand up I am afraid it won't be considered much of a problem at a forum level.

Good stuff. Will keep people at bay and threads and comms to a professional level. I would welcome more buyers to do this as I see a lot of offers not even close to the criteria, so sellers get penalised.
Should buyers be penalised instead when they report something which was not covered by their criteria? Or is there no risk for buyers here and only sellers can be "punished"? We're all "domainers".

Ask Eric.

That's great, so you agree with me then, surely?

No I don't. I treat people the way I would like to be treated and that's my choice, but I also put myself in both positions ( buyer and seller ) and I understand both parties and reasons.
Now I am out of here.

 

[james haw]

unless many more stand up I am afraid it won't be considered much of a problem at a forum level.

No-one has said it's a forum level problem, it's personal preference, which has been my tone all along. We're just discussing it and putting forward possible solutions to benefit all concerned.

Ask Eric.

But, given your very strong views on this, I asked you, not Eric.

I also put myself in both positions ( buyer and seller ) and I understand both parties and reasons.

Someone who believes others shouldn't have a problem just because they don't is not really being unprejudiced.

We can go on forever, however. I see your opinion is you don't think we should care about not receiving PMs and the forum won't currently care either. I have no issue with your opinion, other than I disagree with it

 

[Salai Domains]

I wrote this thread to find a better way to communication, to make better deals, to create a little more interaction between domainers.

I believe that, I believe that when someone answer to you, saying No or saying yes show respect, show that you treat him as a person. Even when I receive some domains that doesn't meet the criteria. Why not to creta a relation a friendship,

I have 3 friends here, 2 of this friends I don't made any transaction, and we talk and discuss everyday. My other friend is the guy that bought a lot domains from me.

So I believe that "No, thank you" makes difference.

Just my opinion. And I show respect to everyone that disagree with this

 

[NameOmnia]

Someone who believes others shouldn't have a problem just because they don't is not really being unprejudiced.

Once again you misunderstood. It is because I put myself in other people's shoes that I do not have an issue with that.
If you want to keep going on you are free to do so, it's up to you but the fact that this thread has been "supported" by 3 members could ( and should ) make you pause and think about who has to change what. I do not think there are solutions to be found as apparently there is no problem to be solved; not on a bigger scale at least. Not on a lager scale than your own personal range of perceptions, likes and dislikes.

As for friendship : this is a business forum not FB. I have dear friends here and I have "colleagues" I do business with...sometimes the 2 coincide but it is an exception and I do not expect it to be the rule.
If you do not want to get "burnt" very quickly I really suggest you to treat this place the same way.

At the end you can take my words the way you prefer; as a piece of advice or as something to disagree and get pissed off about. It is your choice and it does not affect me at all, at the end I am not the one experiencing problems and so is 99.9% of the members.

 

[james haw]

there is no problem to be solved; not on a bigger scale at least.

Well, now you have changed it from "no problem exists" to "not on a bigger scale at least" I can agree that is possibly true.

at the end I am not the one experiencing problems and so is 99.9% of the members.

"99.9%" is entirely fabricated and without any stats, you may be right, but we do not know. I could state 40% agree with the thread, 10% agree, it's just guesses and pointless, and again based on your own personal status.

No worries, we'll agree to disagree

 

[Dineshkp]

You have said something meaningful which is generic and would be helpful tips to newbies.

This has turned out to be a debate. It was supposed to be a suggestion/improvement thread :/

 

[Salai Domains]

@Dineshkp yes, I've tried to help and now it's a debate...

But I believe that we could get a good improvements with this thread

 

[james haw]

This has turned out to be a debate. It was supposed to be a suggestion/improvement thread :/

I think the discussion between myself and photonmymind added invaluable resource to the thread as it showed thoughts and ideas from both sides of the fence, and outlined clearly pros and cons for both sellers and buyers.

1. Sellers would like to receive closure to know where they stand (ie "Don't want the domain(s), thanks")
2. Sellers shouldn't expect a reply if they posted way outside the buyer's listed criteria
3. Buyers don't realistically have time to reply to everyone (idea was proposed to make it simpler with a link/button to click to instant PM "No thanks")
   
4. Some sellers (with photonmymind as a representative) do not care if they receive a reply or not

 

[NameOmnia]

It seems I have to repeat it once more.

I am BOTH seller and buyer, I understand both sides of the story and I made it very clear since post number 1.

We are both buyers and sellers therefore should understand both sides of the negotiation process.

Thanks.

 

[S-B]

I only respond to a few people when I receive messages. If you've taken 10 seconds to bang out a message, gave me domains I didn't ask for, or linked me to a list of 5k domains... you certainly shouldn't expect a message back.

 

[james haw]

Another simple idea would be to have our PMs to buyers show as "read by recipient" when the buyer has seen it. That way we know they've at least read it, and can assume without a reply they're not interested.

I know that presumption is not 100% accurate and sometimes they might be thinking about it, for a day, but as they have a wanted thread they're actively looking for names, and so is likely they'll usually reply promptly if they read a PM with something they want.