.mobi 2 Million Mobis

[freeflow]

When do you think mobi registrations will reach 2 million?

Lately I have this feeling that the mobi registrations will dramatically increase in the near future. IMO the Instant Mobilizer will help to increase registrations. My guess is that dotMobi will reach 2 million by the end of 2010.

What do you think?

 

[wot]

When do you think mobi registrations will reach 2 million?

Lately I have this feeling that the mobi registrations will dramatically increase in the near future. IMO the Instant Mobilizer will help to increase registrations. My guess is that dotMobi will reach 2 million by the end of 2010.

What do you think?

Not at the rate they are/will be dropping.

 

[Jeff]

Dropping, IMHO.

What do you think?

:hi:

I voted "Never" ... because they got as high - depending on who you listen to - as nearly 1,100,000, and now according to the recent Zone Files they stand just a tad over 840,000 (that's an approx. 23% decline)! Mass ".MOBI" drops continue (per day/per week/per month/per quarter), and I see no evidence or compelling, substantive reason whatsoever how they won't simply continue on this downward spiral, IMHO.
Folks are also seeking shorter and more highly brandable alternatives for their investment dollar(s), as well! :gl: :talk:

Have a great weekend! :music:
-Jeff

 

[GF]

I voted "2013+" because while mTLD has done an absolutely HORRENDOUS job in promoting .mobi and preserving the trustmark, I think that those who are heavily invested in .mobi are doing a lot of work behind the scenes to develop compliant .mobi sites, as well as contact companies who own .mobi sites and redirect to an m.site.com address.

I'm not sure if it will catch on, but instead of saying "never" I won't give it a deadline. I think 2 million registrations could happen in the future, especially since there is no alternative extension for "mobile" sites yet.

 

[Work In Progress]

There's still a lot of crap dropping (including some of my own early ones), so I think 2 million will be at least a couple years down the road. This could speed up significantly with DotMobi's Instant Mobilizer though. I guess it pretty much depends on how they intend to spread the word on this cool tool!

 

[Jeff]

Added .WEB info ...

To quickly follow up, in addition to the March 24th open (for reasonable registration prices) registration date for the highly brandable .TEL (Telnic.org), as well as the progress being made with the introduction of new gTLD's - including the catchy & easily memorable .WEB - there will soon be other alternative opportunities for domainers, developers, and investors, as well! :lala:

I wanted to be sure to include information on the catchy & easily memorable .WEB! :talk:
Link: http://www.webtld.com

-Jeff

 

[Traveler]

To quickly follow up, in addition to the March 24th open (for reasonable registration prices) registration date for the highly brandable .TEL (Telnic.org), as well as the progress being made with the introduction of new gTLD's - including the catchy & easily memorable .WEB - there will soon be other alternative opportunities for domainers, developers, and investors, as well! :lala:

I wanted to be sure to include information on the catchy & easily memorable .WEB! :talk:
Link: http://www.webtld.com

-Jeff

Jeff, please keep it on topic. Do the OP a favor and don't turn this into a .tel or .web discussion.

 

[Jeff]

Jeff, please keep it on topic.

It's entirely on topic ... I just wished that I had finished my thoughts here the other night with the posting of the .WEB information, IMHO.
These new extensions must be a factor in considering the amount of future ".MOBI's" there may be - because they're obviously alternate investments, and as such - in their totality with many possible other new gTLD's coming - also potentially highly dilutive for the ".MOBI", as well. :gl:

These are my opinions and it is fact that (though we don't know yet exactly how many are coming in the next few/several years) these new extensions are coming! :yell:
Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

 

[Traveler]

It's entirely on topic ... I just wished that I had finished my thoughts here the other night with the posting of the .WEB information, IMHO.
These new extensions must be a factor in considering the amount of future ".MOBI's" there may be - because they're obviously alternate investments, and as such - in their totality with many possible other new gTLD's coming - also potentially highly dilutive for the ".MOBI", as well. :gl:

These are my opinions and it is fact that (though we don't know yet exactly how many are coming in the next few/several years) these new extensions are coming! :yell:
Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

Interesting thoughts, but not on topic, just a tangent. Make a new thread and include a link for people that want to discuss your thoughts on that tangent. This thread is not about .web or .tel, keep it on topic.

 

[MrRhee]

To quickly follow up, in addition to the March 24th open (for reasonable registration prices) registration date for the highly brandable .TEL (Telnic.org), as well as the progress being made with the introduction of new gTLD's - including the catchy & easily memorable .WEB - there will soon be other alternative opportunities for domainers, developers, and investors, as well! :lala:

I wanted to be sure to include information on the catchy & easily memorable .WEB! :talk:
Link: http://www.webtld.com

-Jeff

Jeff why would you bother posting this in a clearly marked POLL regarding .MOBI? No one asked about comparisons to other TLDs, or did I miss something? Why would you pollute this simple thread with off-topic nonsense?

 

[Jeff]

... or did I miss something?

Correct, you missed the topic ... as the poll goes to the question of "when do you think mobi registrations will reach 2 million?" :blink:

I, personally, reached the conclusion that it will be "Never" ... in part, due to my opinion that there will be folks who won't (or will no longer) register or renew ".MOBI's" because there may be shorter and/or more highly brandable alternatives for their investment dollar(s) - and the extensions mentioned, as well as any number of to-be-released gTLD's will likely garner attention away from mTLD and the ".MOBI" (clearly affecting the number of its total registrations and the results of this poll), IMHO. :gl:

It's a poll, but it's also a lively discussion thread / fourm as well! :music:
Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

 

[hawkeye]

Why can there never be a thread on .mobi with out Jeff jumping in with his repetitve naysaying, that causes every mobi thread to turn into a flame session??? Any and every post on .mobi he has to jump in with his moronic babbling and ridiculing!!! It's like it is condoned and encouraged for him to rile up others with his 3 year redundancy!! To me this starting to seem it's more than an unchecked troll, than why he's unchecked here!!

 

[MrRhee]

Correct, you missed the topic ... as the poll goes to the question of "when do you think mobi registrations will reach 2 million?" :blink:

I, personally, reached the conclusion that it will be "Never" ... in part, due to my opinion that there will be folks who won't (or will no longer) register or renew ".MOBI's" because there may be shorter and/or more highly brandable alternatives for their investment dollar(s) - and the extensions mentioned, as well as any number of to-be-released gTLD's will likely garner attention away from mTLD and the ".MOBI" (clearly affecting the number of its total registrations and the results of this poll), IMHO. :gl:

It's a poll, but it's also a lively discussion thread / fourm as well! :music:

Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

Make no mistake. I do not understand your reply. and YOU missed the topic... by a mile.

If your answer was "never"... great, your opinion. But you waited 24 hours to clarify your post because you were made aware how off-topic your reply was (regarding promoting .tel and .web). Just admit that you enjoy doing anything within your power to tear down .mobi, whether by going to other .mobi-devoted boards, or by going directly to MTLD's own site to pollute their blog.

It's okay for you to hate an extension. It's okay to be open about it. But it is becoming more and more ridiculous the extent you will go to push your agenda forward under the guise of "concern".

before you think this is a .mobi-thing, I am not a .MOBI fanboy, I've been in this industry for over a decade, I own many TLDs, develop under those TLDs, monetize using those TLDs, and I'm also applying for a TLD. If I was reading the .TV or .US section and you came in there with similar posts and concern-trolling, I would reply the same way and hopefully the mods from those sections would ask you to curb yourself at risk of you causing another major exodus from NamePros.

(I can't believe that I am now feeding trolls.)

Why can there never be a thread on .mobi with out Jeff jumping in with his repetitve naysaying, that causes every mobi thread to turn into a flame session??? Any and every post on .mobi he has to jump in with his moronic babbling and ridiculing!!! It's like it is condoned and encouraged for him to rile up others with his 3 year redundancy!! To me this starting to seem it's more than an unchecked troll, than why he's unchecked here!!

I feel the same way. I don't believe that the owners of any board would let the value of page views (generated by trolls) to supersede the professional atmosphere members need & enjoy to conduct business. The value of this board can deteriorate quickly if the pollution goes unchecked... a constant barrage of attacks against a group of members will drive people away in large numbers... and may even turn away new people from joining.

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[mo_dork]

Jeff You Are A Troll

 

[Jeff]

Back on topic ...

^ Sticks and stones, fellas!

I know this may not always be popular (and, thus, some may wish to change the subject) with the few remaining .MOBI enthusiasts, but the Zone Files simply do not lie - 840,312 and dropping DAILY ... complemented with the to-be-released gTLD's (as mentioned) and now many major corporations developing and adopting their respective "M Dots" (instead of, and at the expense of, the ".mobi") is a near mathematical assurance that registrations will fall significantly below 500,000 in the next 12 - 18+/- months, IMHO. :blink:

Stay cool, and have a nice Sunday! :music:
-Jeff

 

[GeoOwners]

Make no mistake. I do not understand your reply. and YOU missed the topic... by a mile.

I would reply the same way and hopefully the mods from those sections would ask you to curb yourself at risk of you causing another major exodus from NamePros.

(I can't believe that I am now feeding trolls.)


I feel the same way. I don't believe that the owners of any board would let the value of page views (generated by trolls) to supersede the professional atmosphere members need & enjoy to conduct business. The value of this board can deteriorate quickly if the pollution goes unchecked... a constant barrage of attacks against a group of members will drive people away in large numbers... and may even turn away new people from joining.

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I heard that there's a mobi forum someplace with 2500 members and this Jeff guy is banned from posting there...is that correct?


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[jmcc]

^ Sticks and stones, fellas!

I know this may not always be popular (and, thus, some may wish to change the subject) with the few remaining .MOBI enthusiasts, but the Zone Files simply do not lie

So Jeff,
What does the New : Deleted ratio in the .mobi zonefile tell you?

Regards...jmcc

 

[Jeff]

What does the New : Deleted ratio in the .mobi zonefile tell you?

I believe I read here somewhere that there were 867,629 total ".mobi" domains on 1/1/09 ... today there are 839,803 in the Zone Files - that's at 3.2% drop in less than three months. :blink:
For discussion purposes, if I approximate and compound / extrapolate that for the next 18 months+/-, there would be an approx. 43.9% reduction from current 839,803 to 471,130 ... barring any NEW and compelling, substantive reason for corporations -and- developers to promptly CHANGE COURSE and register, develop, host, maintain, and index, promote, and market an (still) relatively unknown ".MOBI" in these challenging economic times (and in light of the costs and efficiencies of scale of intuitive and already adopted, by and large, "M Dots")! :imho:
That's how I arrive at my "near mathematical assurance that registrations will fall significantly below 500,000 in the next 12 - 18+/- months", IMHO.

Regards.
-Jeff

 

[jmcc]

I believe I read here somewhere that there were 867,629 total ".mobi" domains on 1/1/09 ... today there are 839,803 in the Zone Files - that's at 3.2% drop in less than three months. :blink:

There were 866770 domains in the .mobi zonefile as of 01/January/2009. There were 846994 domains in the zone on 01/February/2009. There were 841092 domains in the zone on 01/March/2009. As of yesterday's second zone (.mobi zone being published twice a day, there were 839848 domains in the zone. What you are actually seeing is the Junk Dump phase - this is the phase when landrush registrations that were not sold and hadn't a hope of being flipped for even regfee are dropped. It shows up as a spike in deletions for a few months after the landrush anniversary. In a healthy TLD, the number of new registrations is maintained or does not fall significantly. (The effect will be far more pronounced in .asia gTLD.)

For discussion purposes, if I approximate and compound / extrapolate that for the next 18 months+/-, there would be an approx. 43.9% reduction from current 839,803 to 471,130

In other words, Jeff, you are just making your numbers up to upset all the .mobi domain owners. Let's deal with some real statistics for contrast. Each set of figures below is compared against the stats from the zone on the first of the previous month.

01/Jan/2009 - 866770 doms. New: 25760 Del: 62292 Ratio: 0.4135 Diff: -36532
01/Feb/2009 - 846994 doms. New: 29283 Del: 49062 Ratio: 0.5968 Diff: -19779
01/Mar/2009 - 841092 doms. New: 27944 Del: 33847 Ratio: 0.8256 Diff: -5903
23/Mar/2009 - 839848 doms. New: 22406 Del: 23650 Ratio: 0.9474 Diff: -1244

What this shows is that the rate of deletion is slowing and the growth in .mobi is actually edging positive.

That's how I arrive at my "near mathematical assurance that registrations will fall significantly below 500,000 in the next 12 - 18+/- months", IMHO.

That would require that the number of deleted domains exceeds the number of new domains by approximately 18880 for 18 months or 28321 domains for 12 months. As for your "near mathematical assurance", the numbers and the current trend would disagree.

Regards...jmcc

 

[hawkeye]

...In other words, Jeff, you are just making your numbers up to upset all the .mobi domain owners. ...

And backed by 'facts'! Nice post jmcc. Rep to you.