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1000s of my Domains Expired, often picked-up by Huge Domains

Located in General Domain Discussion started by namemarket, Nov 12, 2018.

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  1. namemarket

    namemarket Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    After letting over 1,500 .com and .org names expire over the past several years (especially recently) i have noticed the majority of my drops are picked up by HugeDomains.com

    Not sure why they want them as most every name I drop had insignificant ppc revenue and little if any traffic, were not registered in other tlds and received no offers and few if any sale inquiries over the years.

    So i do not understand how in the world “Huge Domains” is going to sell them, most of which they seem to have priced from $1,500 to $3,000. If you combine that bad sales outlook with the upcoming 31% Verisign hikes it may be a good time to short HugeDomains stock now. Do they have exchange traded stocks?
     
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  2. Deathstarr

    Deathstarr Active Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    They buy many domains and set them for sale.

    I can’t comment on why they buy or how they pick but they own many domains. Plus offer payment plans.
     
  3. NYJimbo

    NYJimbo Domain Re-Animator Gold Account

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    I think they get them for a $1 each. I remember a while back some government run buyer in an African country was doing the same thing. Buying up thousands of expires using govt funds. Can't remember who they were but they are basically become a govt domain registrar and can reg domains for pennies each.
     
  4. E-Promote

    E-Promote Active Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    They are heavily invested in their drop service. When you cant pick up even a semi decent name after the drop because Huge picked it up, you will soon convert yourself. This is the nature of big players, they always strive to control the market. Having said that, there are much juicier stocks to short in the coming crash :)
     
  5. alcy

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    do they renew most?
    are they making huge profit seling names we cant sell? how?
     
  6. Mister Funsky

    Mister Funsky Active Member VIP

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    Mine as well...some really awful ones at that. It's a business model...time will tell if it is sustainable.
     
  7. alcy

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    i think they been round a while
     
  8. lolwarrior

    lolwarrior Founder, Brands.International VIP

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    They can sell them as they have much lower cost of holding them comparing to you as an individual, that is the whole trick :)

    Still, I am kind of surprised why someone can let their 1500 domains to drop, particularly when it is .com, which is super easy to hold in my opinion ...it costs just $10/year per name, after all.
     
  9. Mister Funsky

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    Are you talking about my awful domains or huge?

    If my dropped domains are what you refer to, yes...I've had too many too long.

    If it is the fact that huge is buying everything that falls, well...let's just give it a year or two and see how many of the HUNDREDS of thousands of the drops they have gotten get renewed. Either they will have to dump or increase prices to cover the renewals. Both actions will be good for those of us feeding on lower layers.
     
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  10. alcy

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    i meant huge have been round long while

    someone just said they get huge renew cuts?
     
  11. Mister Funsky

    Mister Funsky Active Member VIP

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    Yes, they are long runners for sure and they help us all by their sales and activity.

    But a person that is in a position of knowledge from a registrar standpoint told me that although the registrars may get a small discount due to volume or as a promotion, the cost of a domain (.com) is pretty much in stone at about $7.80 per (some other thread here has the exact number).
     
  12. creataweb

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    $8.03 I think, ICANN & VERISIGN cost
     
  13. alcy

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    well.. I didn't think they can get huge cuts on renewals.. but lolwarrior just said they do.

    although I guess its possible they may have some registration discounts etc.

    there is probably hardly anyone on namepros whose domain has not been regged by HD after they dropped it.

    what I'm intereated in knowing is .. since they've been doing this possible for many years now.. it must mean they are making nice profit out of it.. and if they are making nice profit out of it.. then I'm curious to know how its possible that they are selling many of the domains which many of us were not selling and thus dropping.

    are they just that well advertized and or sponsored by others that potential buyers check their site for names before they go to check other markets? I guess thats a possibility.

    I am just speculating. in the end I don't know all so much about HD.. but maybe someone who does know more can comment.
     
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  14. creataweb

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    They own millions of names I think. Lots of traffic = sales
     
  15. ~ The 34 Year Buzz!!

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    Some of those are truly great if you just find the right buyer, don't you miss at least a few of them?

    Seriously,
    Former owner
    i4Got.info :)
     
  16. Mister Funsky

    Mister Funsky Active Member VIP

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    Economies of scale. Takes REALLY deep pockets to do that in the domain biz...mine are too shallow! :xf.smile:
     
  17. alcy

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    Hmmmm... wow.. millions?
    I didn't think anyone in domaining own millions of names :)

    so by trafic you mean like this:

    someone types name in browser.. redirects to their domain lander page.. and then from there goes to view their other inventory?

    otherwise how can trafic be helpful to them if they only land on a single domain slae lander.. and not go through the whole catalog..
     
  18. creataweb

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    Yes, millions.
     
  19. alcy

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    wow thats amazing..

    and I thought rick or mike mann had many names lol
     
  20. creataweb

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    I believe that HD owns more than 10x what Mike M. owns currently. :)
     
  21. namemarket

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    I misspoke a bit since the 1,500 expired over a number of years (with lots of them past 2 years after market declined a lot) and did include a number of .info .us .net .biz but the majority were in fact .com and .org Why hold them year after year with little or no traffic, prospects for revenue or sale inquiries? P.S. I only look for end user sales.

    It is FAR from easy to sell even .com's As evidence simply look at all the for-sale threads on this forum with many of them being bumped all the time and few if any sales or offers over a long time. They tend to sell easily on drop lists for small $xx to places like hugedomains.com and buydomains.com but otherwise extremely tough to get end-user interest.
     
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  22. frank-germany

    frank-germany F1lter.com xpired domain search engine Gold Account VIP

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    https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-registrar/
    For instance, Verisign, which administers the .com TLD, currently charges $7.85 per year to register a .com domain. ICANN imposes a $0.18 per year fee on top of that for every domain registered.
     
  23. Abdullah Abdullah

    Abdullah Abdullah Devuu.com Moderator Gold Account VIP

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    Same thing happens to me. Just yesterday I was checking a couple of domains I dropped and they are all at HD or BD etc.
     
  24. Bob Hawkes

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    The Verisign blog says that the parent of HugeDomains owns 4 million domains.

    Would be interesting to know what their sales ratio and average price is.

    While I am sure they don't pay much more than wholesale, as I understand it they would need to pay the $7.85 wholesale rate +ICANN fee so in other words need to sell about $32 million in domains each year to break even.

    Bob
     
  25. stub

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    Perhaps you should give me a list before you drop any more :)
     

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