Let's Talk About .WEB

For me .web is by far the best general ngtld. The thing is that probably the best names will be reserved, like in .news (also one of the best tlds).

. Web has all the attention it needs, what will be the success key is the marketing pricing and how will they manage the premium names.

brandnow said:

But I'm wondering if you are also saying, in addition to .web being pointless, that .web might have as much value as .net?

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string:
.net > .web

developed sites:
net: millions
.web: 0

It's a no brainer.

I like .net. Some of my websites, the .com redirects to the .net.

With respect to .web it doesn't appeal to me, but that just may be me. It's better than .ninja or .sucks and it may be the most successful of the new ones (.xyz? Really?) but it doesn't really say anything.

Originally .net was intended for network infrastructure but I like to see .net for network of the none IP type, a community of users.

I can't think of anything that .web says to me.

Alice Wonder Miscreations said:

I like .net. Some of my websites, the .com redirects to the .net.

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Just out of curiosity, why in the world would you do that? I can maybe understand if you had a developed .net and then picked up the .com later and just forwarded it.

A lot will again depend on the money they ask for a registration,
a renewal, a transfer.
.co and .mobi did a stupidity by making renewals and transfers double or more expensive then normal registrationfee.
But .web CAN make the same mistake, AND CAN ALSO MAKE a mistake that is made by so much new TDS.
AND THIS MISTAKE IS => An enormous amount of reserved premiumdomains called "premium" and costing more to register then the normal registerfee, with...... as renewalrate the same as the expensive registerfee. If they do that (and a lot of new tlds do that) thye will have suddenly after 1 year an enormous drop of those premiums.
.xyz isn't making that mistake and .club also isn't making that mistake (or only in a minor way).
That's why they have lots of registrated domains.
AND OF COURSE THEY CAN ALSO MAKE THE MISTAKE OF the .OOO -extention with premium of more then 150.000 USD etc...
If they do that with the .web => it will fail.

But we don't know that yet !!!

BUT THERE PROBABLY WILL BE A CHANGEMENT IN THE FUTURE =>>> LOTS OF NEW REGISTRARS with NEW TLD'S WILL HAVE LOTS of LOSSES AND NO RENEWALLS, OR ARE ALREADY TOO EXPENSIVE NOW with not enough registrations to be talked about on forums, and domainblogs ===> AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME THEY WILL HAVE TO ADJUST THEIR RENEWALREATES AND REGISTRATIONRATES AND TRANSFERRATES.

AND DID YOU SEE ?? => SUDDENLY the .WS-extention a CCTLD like .TV one is (from as far as I know Western Samoa (US-SAMOA), many years already used because .WS is also the abbreviation or the initials of WebSite) is raising RENEWALS since the 1st of may, and DIMINISHING THEIR REGISTERFEES !!!!!!. THE REASON WOULD BE the new TLD ".website". ===> I think that we willl get a lot of surprises like that in the future. (but why they raise their renewalrate, I don't know).

JB Lions said:

Just out of curiosity, why in the world would you do that? I can maybe understand if you had a developed .net and then picked up the .com later and just forwarded it.

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I registered the .com's defensively but they are not commercial sites, they are community sites, networks of people.

It also makes me wonder how much money some big comp's must spend on snapping up all the other TLDs of the .com. Just as Google.com would for google.co.uk, google.net, google.org, google.info, google.me, google.biz, google.mobi etc etc which even more interestingly, all these redirect back to Google.

Sometimes it could be worth checking on up and coming companies domains and see if they have taken all the other TLD's and think of registering them as it could be that sooner or later that company might turn into a fortune 500 and might be willing to pay you well to get those domains from you on that TLD.

Mind you, if they have copyrighted their brand name then you are entering a minefield but if you can get them before they get big enough to trademark their brand name then you're on the right track but its a risk and could be an expensive one if the company goes bust but yeah, makes you think.

I don't know international law but in the US you don't have to have specifically trademarked your brand to win in court. It makes it easier to win if you have, but you don't have to.

I suspect the reason why companies like google snap them up is because if they don't, someone else will and even though they can get it back with law, the legal fees will likely be higher than the registration cost.

.web is probably one of the new Gtld's that makes semi sense. But there still isn't really a NEED in the marketplace for it.

People seem to enjoy typing .com at the end of their URL's. Thank the billions in advertising .com websites do every year through the internet, banner ads, billboards, buses, etc. This is why most other extentions fall off over time. Marketing dollars into the brand.

-Omar

Meanwhile have you ever thought about the growth of Mobile Apps. Many companies trying to close their websites and completely focusing on mobile apps. But in my opinion .WEB is a good generic gtld which can be compared with .NET but it really depends how many companies are aware about this new gTLD

pdevananth said:

Meanwhile have you ever thought about the growth of Mobile Apps. Many companies trying to close their websites and completely focusing on mobile apps. But in my opinion .WEB is a good generic gtld which can be compared with .NET but it really depends how many companies are aware about this new gTLD

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I may not speak for the market as a whole, but I don't like mobile apps. They require too much access to personal info on my phone, location data, contacts, etc. and are notorious for security issues. It's like Windows 95 all over again.

I would prefer if more mobile apps were actually web apps running in the safety of a browser, and I suspect at some point with the continual security problems mobile apps have, at some point the market will say enough is enough. And then .web may be king.

.web is cool but I can guarantee they will reserve most of the good names and everything else will be over priced. Trending one year later with new gTLDS.

tomcarl said:

I don't think .web will live up to the hype, It's a bit redundant just like .online. I'd rather go with the tried and true .net if I was a startup considering .web

How many times do you hear "I seen it on the web" or "Find us on the web". "Web" is a dated phrase, people refer to the internet as "the net" for short, again .net

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Well web and net are two different things.

The Internet is a global network of computers that communicate using Internet Protocol (IP).

The web is a network of linked HyperText Markup Language pages that lives on the Internet.

.net is appropriate for network infrastructure unrelated to web pages - .web implies web pages.

Of course .net is used for just about anything now, and the same will hold true of .web.

Can never understand the hype around all these new gTLD's ...will this or that be the next .net or .com killer...
It's never going to happen...the reason why is simple, authority. If you were heavily investing in your business, be you an individual at home for a few thousand or a large startup with funding would you honestly choose a gTLD other than .com. No, I hear you answer say...and that's not going to change anytime soon.

As I mentioned in another post the only kinds of businesses which will adopt any of these are young, hip and edgy tech startups...if i walked through East London to the tech village and I saw a warehouse selling modified and customised VR headsets or google glass's and I looked over the brick archway and there site was vrglass.london displayed in pink neon then I wouldn't think any less of them as they are so niche anyway...

.com is king, always has been, always will...sure if you can register spider.web, sex.web, porn.web etc then great but ain't gonna happen.

I don't think any of them need to take over and surpass .com to be a huge a success.

The CMS I'm coding (my startup) - it will never beat WordPress but if I get even 5% of the marketshare WordPress has, I'll be set. It's not always about being the most saturated market, that's following the crowd.

I'd rather type a short link into twitter that includes my brand name than a no_url_shorteners link that doesn't - and that I think is where .web will shine. Short gTLD where good short brand specific domain names are not all gone. And it's a one syllable extension like com / net / org / mil / gov.

.Web is gonna be killer (as long as pricing is right).. but yeah getting good names is gonna pose a problem for nearly anyone.

.WEB could be a real winner for those domains that use exact match keywords or well known brands. Thumbs up from me.

Alice Wonder Miscreations said:

I like .net. Some of my websites, the .com redirects to the .net.

With respect to .web it doesn't appeal to me, but that just may be me. It's better than .ninja or .sucks and it may be the most successful of the new ones (.xyz? Really?) but it doesn't really say anything.

Originally .net was intended for network infrastructure but I like to see .net for network of the none IP type, a community of users.

I can't think of anything that .web says to me.

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I just need to clear up that I have switched and I currently find .web to be extremely appealing, if they don't do the premium name thing.

To me the premium name thing feels to much like a street gang expecting you to kick up a periodic vig or they destroy your business.

I think with Verisign climbing on board it could do wonders for .web credibility.

Is there a date for when the .web will be available to preregister?

I have said this before.. but I am glad that Verisign got it.. my hope (whether it comes true or not) is that they will treat .web the same as .com.. similar pricing, etc.. no premiums, etc. If a company like Donuts were to get .web.. I would bet that they would make the cost $25 / year and set tens of thousands of names to premium pricing. So that's why I was hoping that either Verisign or Google would get .web.. Google probably would have given the names away for free to Gmail users (again just my own guess).. but hopefully Verisign treats it the same as .com and it will be win-win for both domainers and end users. My 3c

Alice Wonder Miscreations said:

I just need to clear up that I have switched and I currently find .web to be extremely appealing, if they don't do the premium name thing.

To me the premium name thing feels to much like a street gang expecting you to kick up a periodic vig or they destroy your business.

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If they don't do the "Premium Thing" investors like Mike Mann will purchase the first 1 to 3 million names using a computer program at reg fees on the 1st day anyway.

So it would be the same result but the money would be in the pockets of big-time domainers instead of Verisign, but let's see what theu do.