Yuran
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I'm the only one who thinks this kind of disturbs the market?
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Seriously?
You're telling everyone that these $280 domains, registered outside of SAV, are being auctioned off on Sav expiring domain auction platform... and you don't see how that would matter or change things?
That would mean registrars like <Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu> are sending their expired inventory to Sav for auctions?
So in theory, a registrar <Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu> could offer below verisign cost registrations, and still be profitable if they made that money up via their expired auction route.
What is it that I'm refuting here? I'm just trying to get more information. Are you suggesting it is Sav behind the $280 sales listings/registrations? As that's the only thing I can think of that I actually refuted in this thread...
Thank you
That's a reseller (open provider) so if not backordered at SAV they most probably utilise the API to catch and get good pricing, at cost.
Not a bad pick to use catching somewhat (random) just ok, little competition, domains.
The $280 seller may be backordering as well.
But I see a lot of $280 hand regs. Regged not at sav (at openprovider). Just to sell at sav.
So I doubt these are backorders through openprovider, or maybe if they are (doubtful) there is a registration lag in the backorders, leaving backorders available to reg for hours to days after dropping.
Any idea what open provider resellers charge per domain reg?
It doesn't look they send their expiration stream to SAV.
I didn't think so either, but I'm not too familiar on Sav expired auctions. Hence my surprise when @blogspotter suggested they were filtering these through Sav expired auctions.
If you look at GymnasticsPlanet.com
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Why people keep saying that Sav is behind these listings when they aren't regged at Sav? It makes no sense. Is there a deeper connection we're not seeing? Or are the people saying Sav is behind these listings poor at conducting research, and quick to accuse without practicing due dilligence?
Helping you with some new info, maybe you can dig deeper and found out more. Looks like they have around 12600 domains, using [email protected] and they are connected to domain investments llc and elite domains, they are based in Boca Raton, Florida and the main guy is Jordan Levinson. Looks like they made 400k last year through this company.I didn't think so either, but I'm not too familiar on Sav expired auctions. Hence my surprise when @blogspotter suggested they were filtering these through Sav expired auctions.
If you look at GymnasticsPlanet.com
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or look at RealOperator.com
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Why people keep saying that Sav is behind these listings when they aren't regged at Sav? It makes no sense. Is there a deeper connection we're not seeing? Or are the people saying Sav is behind these listings poor at conducting research, and quick to accuse without practicing due dilligence?
Is there a deeper connection we're not seeing?
There's obviously more to the story than
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Yes, all roads lead to Chicago
(tip: article you may have missed)
There's more ... but not worth your time. In essence, 3 months of ping pong & turning $xK into $xxK via one road. Yet there's a bunch of roads lead to ...
Hello All. Sav does not own any domains (aside from sav.com and a few others to run our infrastructure).
I don't want to add to the speculation, but you are most likely wrong in what you are refuting.
It makes no sense. Is there a deeper connection we're not seeing?
Or are the people saying Sav is behind these listings poor at conducting research, and quick to accuse without practicing due dilligence?
using [email protected] and they are connected to domain investments llc and elite domains, they are based in Boca Raton, Florida
When looking at WHOIS of a domain registered by that email address...
Why does the WHOIS for a domain registered at PDR, show a very similar address of SAV in the WHOIS?
WHOIS shows suite 515 opposed to Sav.com suite 303
Hello All. Sav does not own any domains (aside from sav.com and a few others to run our infrastructure).
Looks like they are using multiple companies, like domain investments llc, multi media llc, elite domains and a few others. I've used the whois info for some of my ex domains, like smoothia.com Domain investments llc shows as a Boca Raton company: https://www.dnb.com/business-direct...nts_llc.ba371d5b87c7da818b5ab852e7f0c221.html but again, they are using multiple companies.Looks like you might have been right?
Possibly?
Or perhaps the people saying Sav is behind these listings are GREAT conduction research?
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Where'd you get Boca Raton, Florida at?
When looking at WHOIS of a domain registered by that email address...
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Why does the WHOIS for a domain registered at PDR, show a very similar address of SAV in the WHOIS?
WHOIS shows suite 515 opposed to Sav.com suite 303
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I would guess is somebody connected to sav, but not necessary sav as company...lot's of the domains have a $280 + $7,99 for one year extra...I don't think that a real domainer, not connected to sav, will care about the $8 renewal.Is this a politician/technical answer? Sav as a company might not own any domains aside from Sav.com.
But, hasn't it been said that Sav CEO has a massive portfolio? Are you suggesting nobody employed/owner/boardmember/shareholder of Sav.com are selling domains via Sav with Sav landers for $280?
I'm not trying to suggest anybody behind sav is selling on Sav landers, as I want to take your word for it that Sav doesn't own any domains. But, considering the matching up of WHOIS addresses to Sav company address, things aren't adding up.
Might it just be a really enthusiastic/friendly Sav customer with no connection to anyone within the company, who wanted to move to the same building as sav, and build their $280 business model around sav tech?
I've used the whois info for some of my ex domains, like smoothia.com
Domain investments llc shows as a Boca Raton company: https://www.dnb.com/business-direct...nts_llc.ba371d5b87c7da818b5ab852e7f0c221.html but again, they are using multiple companies
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Is it possible there is a Illinois (or another state) based Domain Investments LLC?
Hello All. Sav does not own any domains (aside from sav.com and a few others to run our infrastructure).
I would guess is somebody connected to sav, but not necessary sav as company...lot's of the domains have a $280 + $7,99 for one year extra...I don't think that a real domainer, not connected to sav, will care about the $8 renewal.
i was thinking about it and i think anyone can sell for whatever they want. e.g. i have domains (drops) that was owned by Mike Mann and listed on his DomainMarket.com - for 3- 4 figures and now i am selling them for $20 lolI found that many good domains are on sale on SAV for $280
Most folks have came to know this seller via the $280 (Sav -- super low 4% fee) landing page.
Here are a few names I had recently marked for registration consideration before the $280 seller pulled the trigger and regged before me.
realoperator.com
gymnasticsplanet.com
nemun.com
emergencypulse.com
retrotire.com
earndirectory.com
preparedwise.com
xupax.com
ubety.com
megiggle.com
modewire.com
analyzingrisk.com
themeshell.com
parallelbit.com
heyindex.com
meltingleaf.com
moldbrain.com
goodvariant.com
blimpcoin.com
blocksupreme.com
directorycontact.com
cupstand.com
electserve.com
prettylist.com
ringorbit.com
leaffarmers.com
lazycannabis.com
seedsflowers.com
grandnugget.com
opennursery.com
strikefresh.com
barefootcity.com
mobquick.com
nationcross.com
phonerecon.com
verbnation.com
hypewow.com
amuve.com
solleaf.com
getmedian.com
centerhot.com
dailybong.com
blocktend.com
glacierwallet.com
trekgalaxy.com
pizzamake.com
planetuniversal.com
countpad.com
getreplacement.com
splitmenu.com
premiumprincess.com
longshock.com
restoreglow.com
enterpop.com
fusebuzz.com
islandseal.com
bearcrunch.com
bitthermal.com
soapthat.com
homenucleus.com
lifetimereview.com
gentleeffect.com
yesloyalty.com
rocketfunded.com
clutchbase.com
netchow.com
bitveteran.com
thumbsport.com
forrequest.com
tallcrowd.com
careerneed.com
lineroute.com
bitspoof.com
janemax.com
Is it possible there is a Illinois (or another state) based Domain Investments LLC?
This has been going down since at least september 2019, many deleted domains ending up on $280 sav landers. I think they were unknown to namepros at the time.
I find nothing wrong with them or any registrar / industry stakeholder competing against us; its already happening.
A major part of the Elite domains portfolio was reportedly acquired by Godaddy... http://dotweekly.com/godaddy-acquires-another-domain-portfolio/