news I found that many good domains are on sale on SAV for $280

[Yuran]

I'm the only one who thinks this kind of disturbs the market?

 

[DNPush]

Then buy them

 

[ecomslice]

fair points on blame, im at fault,

but further chat on the topic regardless of who the sellers are,

it is interesting that they are still persistent since the 50$ closeout increase, has anyone seen a pattern here ? I did notice some are lifted over 300 now. and I do assume it is the same " entity " building a mass bargain priced portfolio.

anyone think it is an experiment ? or a confident profitable venture this " entity " is on ?

 

[bmugford]

I was able to pull up a list of many of the $280 domains. I did not really see much on it that interests me.

If this list is representative of the average quality of domain listed for $280, I am not worried.

I am a bit skeptical of their business model though. $280 is a high reseller price for marginal domains, but a very low end user price.

If they priced their domains @ say $2,800 I think it would yield better results. Lower prices do yield a higher sell-through rate, but not 10x higher from my experience.

Brad

 

[clarkemarketing]

There is definitely somebody who prices a bunch of their domains at $280 BIN regardless of value... I know this because I regularly buy their crypto domains and relist them for $3000+. Just last week I bought BitcoinLoan.co and CoinLoan.co from them. They are all registered at GoDaddy, but many of them have a SAV lander. I assume they are drop catching the names themselves (cost of hand reg) and just trying to sell as many as possible as quickly as possible.

Even though I enjoy flipping their names for a hefty profit, overall their pricing strategy is annoying. For example: normally I would list BestCrypto.org for approx $1795 since it is a nice name registered in 53 extensions, but because they have BestCrypto.net listed for $280 I felt the need to reduce my price to $795.

 

[wwwweb]

They are trying to do a poor man's huge domains with deleted domains, I guess using some automated system which is not always pretty. None the less they are flooding afternic with such names, and they come up when end users do their searches.

Not all end users always pick the best domain based on keyword makeup, but this is my point they are dragging down prices, just based on user aboves comments show domaino pricing effect.

 

[dhyane]

I see only auctions. Where is those $280 domains? Can you provide the links?

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I see only auctions. Where is those $280 domains? Can you provide the links?

Most folks have came to know this seller via the $280 (Sav -- super low 4% fee) landing page.

Here are a few names I had recently marked for registration consideration before the $280 seller pulled the trigger and regged before me.

realoperator.com
gymnasticsplanet.com
nemun.com
emergencypulse.com
retrotire.com
earndirectory.com
preparedwise.com
xupax.com
ubety.com
megiggle.com
modewire.com
analyzingrisk.com
themeshell.com
parallelbit.com
heyindex.com
meltingleaf.com
moldbrain.com
goodvariant.com
blimpcoin.com
blocksupreme.com
directorycontact.com
cupstand.com
electserve.com
prettylist.com
ringorbit.com
leaffarmers.com
lazycannabis.com
seedsflowers.com
grandnugget.com
opennursery.com
strikefresh.com
barefootcity.com
mobquick.com
nationcross.com
phonerecon.com
verbnation.com
hypewow.com
amuve.com
solleaf.com
getmedian.com
centerhot.com
dailybong.com
blocktend.com
glacierwallet.com
trekgalaxy.com
pizzamake.com
planetuniversal.com
countpad.com
getreplacement.com
splitmenu.com
premiumprincess.com
longshock.com
restoreglow.com
enterpop.com
fusebuzz.com
islandseal.com
bearcrunch.com
bitthermal.com
soapthat.com
homenucleus.com
lifetimereview.com
gentleeffect.com
yesloyalty.com
rocketfunded.com
clutchbase.com
netchow.com
bitveteran.com
thumbsport.com
forrequest.com
tallcrowd.com
careerneed.com
lineroute.com
bitspoof.com
janemax.com

 

[dhyane]

some good domains there.

 

[alcy]

nonsense. all crap prices like the sales at park..io

 

[Chris Hydrick]

some good domains there.

... and that's just to name a few. So, I guess the question(s) are:

(a) why are domainers so cheap (eg. quick to complain about domains being priced too low opposed to just #Binning) ?

... and (b) what is the sweet spot price for a domainer to just #Bin instead of #whine about a domain listing(s) being priced too low?

Take the DomainKing for instance...

Last week he posted about paying $201 for a 5L brandable. And made a comment about late to the game whiners being idiots.

 

[tomcarl]

Take Michael Cyger's course, be in the game awhile, have some steady success, then you can set those prices, or request Rick make his own course which I'd be one of the first buy.

 

[ecomslice]

For me I guess the issue is not about wanting to buy them, as much as when an end user is shopping around, the more 280 domains they see, the less they will be motivated to purchase higher levels in the future. etc...

Lets all be honest here, although yes, quality is king, also .com is king, but the only reason the domaining game is where it is , is due to monster portfolios drying up availability to end users so that supply always wins over demand.

Many variables for those complaining. often valid points from both ends.

IMHO.

 

[alcy]

Then buy them

unless that's the seller
abahahahhaha
jk

 

[alcy]

of.course it does not disturb market

the market does not care because there is a few stupid names sitting at some obscure market for whatever price

that's like saying it will change yer life if a certain ant dies in Amazon today.

 

[blogspotter]

A $8 name selling for 280 is 35 X and if you can pull it off in volume, it must be a viable business for them, otherwise they won't be doing it.

Also all these names come up in SAV auctions at expiry and many do sell for 10-100

 

[ecomslice]

A $8 name selling for 280 is 35 X and if you can pull it off in volume, it must be a viable business for them, otherwise they won't be doing it.

Also all these names come up in SAV auctions at expiry and many do sell for 10-100

I have personally been following two other " unknown " portfolios doing the same strategy, one can be tracked via dan sales, and the numbers the past year, it does not look promising,, however if half or fully automated, then its just a game of getting volume higher to make worth the investment.

 

[twiki]

Looks like a numbers game with low margin. I also deal in xxx range but you have to be much more picky on what you get and do proper research which ain't the case here.

Notes:

1) The quality is quite meh. $280 is kinda steep for these names. At least some are sellable though.

2) I have observed this regging at drop, over time. Reminds me of the names I registered in my first year. Might be slightly profitable overall due to Sav low price.

3) They might be using Sav backordering, I guess.

4) Everyone here at NP should not worry about this. Such strategy does not pull down the market. They are quite pricey for what they are. Furthermore there are not many people doing something like this.

Edit: Also the fact that you bought 50 or 100 random weak names and sold one or none, does not make you a domainer.
What drives down the market is the millions of hungry domain wannabes with just a few names that end up selling stuff for less than $100 just to earn something. Also sometimes people sell good names they had for cheap because of no clue as to how to price them.

True domainers do not dilute the market - for the sole reason that they'd be diluting their own revenue and go bust. It's everyone else that does.

Edit: Also the fact that you bought 50 or 100 random weak names, and sold one or none does not make you a domainer.

 

[blogspotter]

There is definitely somebody who prices a bunch of their domains at $280 BIN regardless of value... I know this because I regularly buy their crypto domains and relist them for $3000+. Just last week I bought BitcoinLoan.co and CoinLoan.co from them. They are all registered at GoDaddy, but many of them have a SAV lander. I assume they are drop catching the names themselves (cost of hand reg) and just trying to sell as many as possible as quickly as possible.

Even though I enjoy flipping their names for a hefty profit, overall their pricing strategy is annoying. For example: normally I would list BestCrypto.org for approx $1795 since it is a nice name registered in 53 extensions, but because they have BestCrypto.net listed for $280 I felt the need to reduce my price to $795.

Damn.. Just saw best crypto.
I think you would be better off buying out the BestCrypto.net for 280 and raising the price for BestCrypto.org

 

[Chris Hydrick]

2) I have observed this regging at drop, over time. Reminds me of the names I registered in my first year. Might be slightly profitable overall due to Sav low price.

A lot of these $280 domains are NOT registered at Sav. Why?

eg. It's likely they are paying less than $6.95 elsewhere. Or?

3) They might be using Sav backordering, I guess.

None of the domains I posted above were backorders. Or were regged at Sav for that matter. They were all dropped, and available for hand registration, before $280 regged them within an hour to a few days after the drop.

Also all these names come up in SAV auctions at expiry and many do sell for 10-100

The names that are showing up in Sav auctions, are they all registered at Sav? Or are you seeing domains registered elsewhere <such as: Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu> appearing on Sav expired auctions?

 

[blogspotter]

The names that are showing up in Sav auctions, are they all registered at Sav? Or are you seeing domains registered elsewhere <such as: Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu> appearing on Sav expired auctions?

Almost all .coms are registered outside SAV, but why does it matter?
I don't want to add to the speculation, but you are most likely wrong in what you are refuting.
You are a good sleuth. Dig further

 

[Samer]

Almost all .coms are registered outside SAV, but why does it matter?
I don't want to add to the speculation, but you are most likely wrong in what you are refuting.
You are a good sleuth. Dig further

Find out why Sav.com registered wit Godaddy

 

[twiki]

Find out why Sav.com registered wit Godaddy

I think I have figured that out.

Sav bought Nameking (or what the deal was), well the domain was probably originally registered with GD so they continued with it after purchase. Because ransfering a registrar's domain to another registrar will cause downtime, which is undesirable for such a business.

 

[Yuran]

There is definitely somebody who prices a bunch of their domains at $280 BIN regardless of value... I know this because I regularly buy their crypto domains and relist them for $3000+. Just last week I bought BitcoinLoan.co and CoinLoan.co from them. They are all registered at GoDaddy, but many of them have a SAV lander. I assume they are drop catching the names themselves (cost of hand reg) and just trying to sell as many as possible as quickly as possible.

Even though I enjoy flipping their names for a hefty profit, overall their pricing strategy is annoying. For example: normally I would list BestCrypto.org for approx $1795 since it is a nice name registered in 53 extensions, but because they have BestCrypto.net listed for $280 I felt the need to reduce my price to $795.

I have the same problem as you. One of my ORG had a buyer offer $800 a year ago. I rejected it, although I regret it, I am still think that someone will buy it someday in the future. I set the domain BIN price at $1200. Until recently, the potential buyer offered me $200 via email, he said that he bought the same NET domain name for only 280 dollars and my ORG is not as good as NET.I no longer think anyone will buy it if the price is $1200.In the end I really sold it for $200.

So I posted this post. Actually I have a little frustration, but there is no way.I think if the market continues to add more domain names of $280, it will affect the market more or less.Just a little complaint.

 

[Future Sensors]

Maybe @Nick R can tell more about the sav.com domain and why it's registered at Godaddy.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Almost all .coms are registered outside SAV, but why does it matter?

Seriously?

You're telling everyone that these $280 domains, registered outside of SAV, are being auctioned off on Sav expiring domain auction platform... and you don't see how that would matter or change things?

That would mean registrars like <Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu> are sending their expired inventory to Sav for auctions?

So in theory, a registrar <Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu> could offer below verisign cost registrations, and still be profitable if they made that money up via their expired auction route.

you are most likely wrong in what you are refuting.

What is it that I'm refuting here? I'm just trying to get more information. Are you suggesting it is Sav behind the $280 sales listings/registrations? As that's the only thing I can think of that I actually refuted in this thread...

You are a good sleuth. Dig further

Thank you