discuss Showcase and Discuss Marijuana/Pot/Hemp/Cannabis domains

Sold HempHorizon.com last year

Canna : now and 2019
Leaf: 2019 and beyond
Weed; some here and there
Pot : see above
Ganja; done
Herb: some here and there
Mmj; done
Hemp; 2019
420: done
Cbd ; 2017 and 2018
Marijuana; done
Cannabis; now
Brandables; now and 2019

I feel ( know ) the market on new startups in Cannabis is at about %6 to %7 of the projected marketplace. Leaves %90 of the market left. Most large scale companies ( with brandables or monopolies where 0 branding is needed)have dominated the space with Oligopoly type models. The free and open marketplace is just starting.

That being said, I'm not sure stew and or some of the ideas here are tangible. Including many of my own. But who really knows. It's such a new thing based on tomorrows marketplace.

I remember passing up leaf water if I'm correct too see it sell in the thousands a year ago. Thought what a dumb idea.

Heard of a close peer holding onto leafbeauty; just got a call on it. Had no idea about womens care in this space. Ask Whoopie Goldberg. Today Este Lauder put out some cannabis mask stuff under the Orgins line. Go figure

Leafurl said:

Canna : now and 2019
Leaf: 2019 and beyond
Weed; some here and there
Pot : see above
Ganja; done
Herb: some here and there
Mmj; done
Hemp; 2019
420: done
Cbd ; 2017 and 2018
Marijuana; done
Cannabis; now
Brandables; now and 2019

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I disagree strongly. That’s your personal take but I actually sell these and know what works. The majority here shouldn’t take this list as fact - it’s a guess with no data to back it up.

Keith said:

I disagree strongly.

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I know you do, if it weren't for westleaf and the trademarks I follow I might agree somewhat.

I follow the industry not the domain industry. And I'm in it.

Canna wasn't even a word just a few years back. Last two top sales were in canna and leaf. Both over 20 grand. So well there is a true metric.

It's all going ( good domains ) to sell, last report I had was projections on startups, growers, extract guys, and retail stores in the tens of thousands just into 2020.

Leafurl said:

I know you do, if it weren't for westleaf and the trademarks I follow I might agree somewhat.

Canna wasn't even a word just a few years back.

It's all going to sell, last report I had was projections on startups, growers, extract guys, and retail stores in the tens of
thousands just into 2020.

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Canna was absolutely being used a few years ago and even longer. We have sales to prove it.

What doesn’t consistently sell? -

Pot
Leaf
Weed
Marijuana

We can point to an odd leaf sale and pretend there’s an emerging market but that’s just wrong.

That's exactly what I'm getting at. Todays sales are simply a look into the future. From what I see in the field is the beginnings of a emerging market

And the two top sales were in Canna and Leaf. I'll take that

Cannabrands was established in 2014 / 2015 also. They were the first from what I understand. To shorten Cannabis.

We can agree to disagree

Leafurl said:

That's exactly what I'm getting at. Todays sales are simply a look into the future. From what I see in the field is the beginnings of a emerging market

And the two top sales were in Canna and Leaf. I'll take that

Cannabrands was established in 2015 also

We can agree to disagree

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There are lots of 5 figure canna sales. Probably more than any other keyword. CBD sales are second for sure, behind hemp. That’s how I see it and I’ll continue to believe those 3 are the strongest industry terms.

Keith said:

Canna was absolutely being used a few years ago and even longer. We have sales to prove it.

What doesn’t consistently sell? -

Pot
Leaf
Weed
Marijuana

We can point to an odd leaf sale and pretend there’s an emerging market but that’s just wrong.

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Only time will tell about a emerging market!

I have no idea how big the market will be once the USA follows the example of California, Colorado, Michigan etc... how about the rest of the world?

Coca Cola made world wide trending news when their "powers that be" stated they were thinking of CBD in health drinks (probably been in the R&D section for a while now)..major breweries are infusing beer...the edible market (even the ma and pa ones are all over the place on the net)!

I think the difference Kieth and I have is I'm thinking more street level. So when stores open up in newly approved states what name will they choose?

Keith is correct on the domain side, that todays demands are as follows. And what sells.

Big CBD guys, even Westleaf and Cronos are not the bread and butter of sales long term, Its going to come down to what works on a storefront or a beer tap. Or coffeeshop or smoothie store. My vote is SEO on canna herb and leaf. They will struggle to pay for brandables.

As I follow legislation and rollouts alot if these counties actually ban many of the key words such as Marijuana and weed.

And if one has a craft permit for under 100 plants how will he market himself?

Both scenarios haven't happened yet on any scale. Or at all, few permitts have been handed out off the 2016 ballot.

This is all great dialage; I consider Kieth to be one of the top in the field despite our differences in opinions.

I also make equipment, and do this part time. I'm on the marketing side of cannabis.

Best of luck out there

Leafurl said:

I think the difference Kieth and I have is I'm thinking more street level. So when stores open up in newly approved states what name will they choose?

Keith is correct on the domain side, that todays demands are as follows. And what sells.

Big CBD guys, even Westleaf and Cronos are not the bread and butter of sales long term, Its going to come down to what works on a storefront or a beer tap. Or coffeeshop or smoothie store. My vote is SEO on canna herb and leaf. They will struggle to pay for brandables.

As I follow legislation and rollouts alot if these counties actually ban many of the key words such as Marijuana and weed.

And if one has a craft permit for under 100 plants how will he market himself?

Both scenarios haven't happened yet on any scale.

This is all great dialage; I consider Kieth to be one of the top in the field despite our differences in opinions.

Best of luck out there

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Keep in mind, it’s best to take advantage of now, not the future. Yes it could be beneficial if you’re a fortune teller but take the road that is paved in success today!

Cool sales on namebio - not me

the420times.com 10,500 USD 2018-09-18 GoDaddy

cbdchildren.com 2,673 USD 2018-09-17 GoDaddy
cbdtribe.com 217 USD 2018-09-18 GoDaddy
vapingfluids.com 182 USD 2018-09-18 GoDaddy

Thanks, really interesting discussion here about what sells now in the aftermarket vs what what businesses that do not exist yet might want in the future. And those future businesses may not want aftermarket domains, on cost grounds alone or because different terms come into use.

Keith said:

Keep in mind, it’s best to take advantage of now, not the future. Yes it could be beneficial if you’re a fortune teller but take the road that is paved in success today!

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I have a key question here: of the domains that now sell in the aftermarket, how many actually get used?

In other words, if big players are buying aftermarket domains on spec and holding them without using them, do they plan to use them, or plan to sell them, or just stop others using them? Would that create a bubble? Or do these domains get used for actual offerings of goods and services.

I sold a domain for low xxxx to an end user who dropped it and another end user picked it up and is using it now for a live site offering services.

Hey guys @carob and @Keith , interesting debate. About the naming whether it is gonna be hemp, cannabis, weed, ganja, pot, cbd, etc.
I would go for Hemp supported by the annual exhibition that is being held in Australia (google Hemp Expo) which btw had road posters that used both Cannabis and Hemp terms. Also the term Hemp is more used in the health/industrial sectors (CBD).
Weed/ganja/marijuana/pot and co seem to have a stigma and are more related to the recreational use (THC). Correct me if i'm wrong as I'm not an expert but just stating my observations.

I for myself own 2 cannabis related domains. One has 'hemp' and the other one has 'pot' keyword so in my understanding I have 1 health related and another recreational related.

Jay Ha said:

Hey guys @carob and @Keith , interesting debate. About the naming whether it is gonna be hemp, cannabis, weed, ganja, pot, cbd, etc.
I would go for Hemp supported by the annual exhibition that is being held in Australia (google Hemp Expo) which btw had road posters that used both Cannabis and Hemp terms. Also the term Hemp is more used in the health/industrial sectors (CBD).
Weed/ganja/marijuana/pot and co seem to have a stigma and are more related to the recreational use (THC). Correct me if i'm wrong as I'm not an expert but just stating my observations.

I for myself own 2 cannabis related domains. One has 'hemp' and the other one has 'pot' keyword so in my understanding I have 1 health related and another recreational related.

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Good observations Jay Ha. I'm probably less familiar with the hemp/cannabis/marijuana/weed/pot/cbd debate/discussion than anyone here. However, I am a business guy that's pretty creative when it comes to domain names and business in general. What differentiates this industry from the likes of the beer/wine/liquor/soda industry is the medical and industrial component which is a pretty big deal in my opinion. There is zero medical/industrial benefit from beer/wine/liquor/soda.

I've now purchased about 50 domains in this area that cover all the bases, and as far as I can tell a few of them have potential. I've spent a little less than $400 for these domains in the last 20 days, but I now own a mini portfolio of names I can show a potential buyer/investor. Leaffurl here has a very interesting perspective, and is probably more knowledgeable about the industry than anyone else. He may have an agenda like we all have, but I think he's shooting pretty straight. I see where Keith (if he's the same guy) has hundreds of hemp/cannabis/marijuana/weed domains for sale at Pot Domains. If this is the case, I understand from domainers who have been around this industry for a long time he may have an agenda as well, and that agenda is simply "competition"

Jay Ha...I don't know if anyone here has ever attended a Hemp Expo, and it appears they're held all over the world, I would like to know if any domainers have witnessed a "vendor booth"? I would think GoDaddy might have a presence, but I sort of doubt it.

Finally, it's part of my long term marketing strategy to have a vendor booth at certain industry specific trade shows ie; financial services, healthcare, real estate, golf, hemp/cannabis/cbd etc.

Good luck to you Jay Ha, and thanks for contributing to this discussion.

SparkBlunt.com

HempClinique(.)com
HempCharities(.com)

Bulloney said:

Good observations Jay Ha. I'm probably less familiar with the hemp/cannabis/marijuana/weed/pot/cbd debate/discussion than anyone here. However, I am a business guy that's pretty creative when it comes to domain names and business in general. What differentiates this industry from the likes of the beer/wine/liquor/soda industry is the medical and industrial component which is a pretty big deal in my opinion. There is zero medical/industrial benefit from beer/wine/liquor/soda.

I've now purchased about 50 domains in this area that cover all the bases, and as far as I can tell a few of them have potential. I've spent a little less than $400 for these domains in the last 20 days, but I now own a mini portfolio of names I can show a potential buyer/investor. Leaffurl here has a very interesting perspective, and is probably more knowledgeable about the industry than anyone else. He may have an agenda like we all have, but I think he's shooting pretty straight. I see where Keith (if he's the same guy) has hundreds of hemp/cannabis/marijuana/weed domains for sale at Pot Domains. If this is the case, I understand from domainers who have been around this industry for a long time he may have an agenda as well, and that agenda is simply "competition"

Jay Ha...I don't know if anyone here has ever attended a Hemp Expo, and it appears they're held all over the world, I would like to know if any domainers have witnessed a "vendor booth"? I would think GoDaddy might have a presence, but I sort of doubt it.

Finally, it's part of my long term marketing strategy to have a vendor booth at certain industry specific trade shows ie; financial services, healthcare, real estate, golf, hemp/cannabis/cbd etc.

Good luck to you Jay Ha, and thanks for contributing to this discussion.

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Hi mate. Never been to any hemp expo but I believe it is an introductory expo for consumers. If it is a B2B expo then yes there might be a 'domain vendor booth' and I think it is a very good idea unless all the businesses already have their own domains, but still a good idea I believe.

Btw I missed @Leafurl when I mentioned the guys discussing the terms but I can't edit my post so regards.

carob said:

Cool sales on namebio - not me

cbdchildren.com 2,673 USD 2018-09-17 GoDaddy

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The winner would’ve won for $36 if I didn’t start bidding. We battled for quite awhile before I gave up.

Bulloney said:

I see where Keith (if he's the same guy) has hundreds of hemp/cannabis/marijuana/weed domains for sale at Pot Domains. If this is the case, I understand from domainers who have been around this industry for a long time he may have an agenda as well, and that agenda is simply "competition"

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Competition is a big part of this game. But a bigger part is understanding how the game is played and putting in the time to figure out how to win!

Keith said:

The winner would’ve won for $36 if I didn’t start bidding. We battled for quite awhile before I gave up.


Competition is a big part of this game. But a bigger part is understanding how the game is played and putting in the time to figure out how to win!

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I do have CBDcommerce.com in auction for much less

Keith said:

The winner would’ve won for $36 if I didn’t start bidding. We battled for quite awhile before I gave up.


Competition is a big part of this game. But a bigger part is understanding how the game is played and putting in the time to figure out how to win!

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Thanks for your candid answer. I'm in this game because I luv it, and like you, I'm in it to win it

The industry is just starting

Sure it's great to sell and own in Canna, Hemp and CBD. But most either didn't have the foresight, and or the capitiol to buy and sell and or buy and hold the top sellers.

When I follow the states rollout of 2016 ballot measures in even states like California and Massachusetts few have issued permits. Or just started a few months ago. No permits few domain sales as I see it. More permitts issued more sales.

The big players have been moving in this space for a while. And that's also all one reads about. It's decieving to hear the media discuss Cronos and or Canopy Growth and Med Men. They can afford brandables anyhow and do.

The real market is too come, it was Carol that mentioned a few hundred Massachusetts permits recently handed out. The market is projected to be in the 8000 to 20,000 range of related startups in Massachusetts alone. It's a metric not truly understood. Keep in mind, that's growers, extract guys, retail stores and edible foods and catering to transportation and the list goes on.

None has happened yet ( or a scattering few ), and so in Massachusetts and Michigan a few. Just the tip of the iceberg.

The LA market in California is expected to be larger than the entire state of Colorado in Cannabis. I don't follow California but I'd just guess that few permitts have been issued.

It's about the volume of the startups not the value of the market. And a marketplace where branding is needed.

And where most industries scale over a 10 year window. Cannabis will in at least California, Michigan, Maine and Massachusetts, Nevada will scale quickly.

I have found few people that actually understand the true scope when it comes to the Cannabis industry. Too understand say catering and or womens care, or Pets. Now Beer and other infused drinks etc etc. There will be sales all throughout the sector. Why wouldn't there be? Plenty of dreamers and capitiol will and is pouring into the market.

For instance a small nuance in the NewJersey legislation. CoffeeShops will be allowed to entertain cannabis .There's Coffee in play. Not sure how that plays out, its all in the future. Coffeeshop domains.

The cannabis board in Massachusetts took 2 years to create, along with rules. Now the board is issuing a hundred or so a week it appears; for 3 weeks. One gets the idea

Just wanted to make a point here..have to remember that some cannabis terms are Geo related and popular where used .

Blunt.. Never heard of that term till internet..
Ganja (Bob Marley)
Dab?
https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/glossary-of-cannabis-terms
https://hightimes.com/guides/common-weed-names-alternative-names-marijuana/

I bought some 420 around the time when the term was trending in the social media ..
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South Africa

"South Africa's top court says adults can use marijuana in private. The Constitutional Court on Tuesday upheld a provincial court's ruling in a case involving Gareth Prince, who advocates the decriminalization of the drug.

Prince says cannabis should be regulated in the same way as alcohol and tobacco. Government authorities have said cannabis is harmful and should be illegal."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-africa-rules-marijuana-legal-in-private-for-adults/

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Another option for your domain..
A few of my cannabis domains are redirected to affiliate sites..
a few of my 420 domains are FB pages https://www.facebook.com/420Laws.ca/

I don't let my majority domains sit idle..I develop back links/history which adds value to a name!

Picked up a few more yesterday... thoughts?

DopeMan.ca
WeedStore.info
WeedSeeds.shop
Mybud.shop
WeedIndeed.net
LegalPot.online

So. I feel, if your over the "hill" and not involved in the Cannabis / Canna / Flower / Marijuana Industry or even smoke weed. Id say save your search engine strength for another Industry. It takes Millions of dollars to adequately entire the field , let alone play successfully in it. The amount of crud floating around name wise is amazing. Corps are entering and disappearing in the blink of an eye. Playing the "Cannabis Name Game" Well its complete speculation.
I'm sorry. I've been heavily invested in Canna industry for the past 10 years. By no means do I claim to be the Wizard of The Cannabis Industry. But ive done ok with my predictions in the past.
Corps that invest in this sector Do NOT Need the word Cannabis / Canna / Marijuana / etc ... to be in their name. Tens of millions of dollars to just TRY to succeed. Its bonkers. But its true.
Id say this is just like a Penny Stock shoot out. People are buying and flipping. Why would a Million Dollar Start up company use the word "Blunt" or "Reefer" It just doesn't happen. Its big big bucks to play with the big boys. Even then, the guessing game continues.
Just the way I see it as all of you who are experienced in the "Domain World" critique peoples names on here.
As in terms with "back history searches" Why would again , a Million dollar investment company go off Old history ? This is just the begging as all of us well know. Speculation. Is it possible. Yes. Most likely the team that builds the house uses in house.
1994 called and they want all their crappy , dated , names back people.

AloHa