Holo vs VR vs MR vs AR vs any other reality (All realities)

VRdommy · Aug 16, 2016

Intel Project Alloy - A Must Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...first-open-source-third-party-vr-headset.html

The pace of change with new VR product designs is about to increase exponentially.
And while this is one thing to move that along, it's not the only thing.

...MORE...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-project-alloy-vr-ar-merged-reality

Kingslayer · Mar 12, 2017

Mads said:
Cute lil sweeties, when few members here says- "do research", you should do research!

I don't understand why many splash slush here on many keywords without knowing what's cookin in the market! You guys should cool ur heels with some company insiders!

I understand that every one has invested in their keywords / terms, boast about it, promote it, share it!
But why derogating other terms without proper research!?

Check this link: Mixed Reality (MR)

Check this Chart:
Show attachment 51875

I am not saying that MR is very known term as much as VR & AR. But peeps, trust moi, IT IS catching up!

I received crazy offers / inquiries in last 3 weeks on my MR names! And from all over the world!
Major share from US & Europe but its China that's I am very excited about!

Talkers keep talkin....Watchers keep watchin....Investors gonna have the final smile!
N this is funny business!
Dont (be emotional) stick to what you want (market, companies wont listen to us),
Accept and flow with what's happenin out there! (listen/research those market / companies)
N u know what...few of u still got time to roll in!

Good Luck n Cheers!

Google trends always goes up with announcements from a major company, the key is it staying there or carrying on going up more.

‘Mixed Reality’ seems to have gone back down to levels what it was before Microsoft’s announcement now though looking at last 30 days.

I wouldn’t bother reading too much into Google Trends at this stage though. Key for Mixed Reality and MR is press/blogs/social media and companies themselves using the term MR to describe the tech instead of VR/AR.

There’s new companies forming everyday calling themselves a ‘VR’ company and a ‘AR’ company. How many ‘MR’ companies are forming on a daily/weekly/monthly basis and branding themselves around the ‘MR’ abbreviation?

That’s the key right now for Mixed Reality/MR, a change in perception and that’s not going to be easy as many companies have branded themselves around VR/AR, if perception does change then you will see Google trends go up.

Mads · Mar 12, 2017

KingslayerVR said:
How many ‘MR’ companies are forming on a daily/weekly/monthly basis and branding themselves around the ‘MR’ abbreviation?

I think @NamePov answered it few pages back with few links!
Sad part is few guys want these answers again n again coz they are not willing/ready to hear/accept it!

If u read my prev post, I told MR is still not popular as vr & ar and its catching up!
Now, any true n smart domainer would take this opportunity to reg good names when its growing!

All the best!

Kingslayer · Mar 12, 2017

Mads said:
I think @NamePov answered it few pages back with few links!
Sad part is few guys want these answers again n again coz they are not willing/ready to hear/accept it!

If u read my prev post, I told MR is still not popular as vr & ar and its catching up!
Now, any true n smart domainer would take this opportunity to reg good names when its growing!

All the best!

Don’t go into defensive mode Mads, my post wasn’t slamming your Mixed Reality in any way (yes i know you own the .com), I was being constructive and I did read your previous post did you read all mine (not just part)?

No it’s not catching up (if you’re going by Google Trends), it’s gone up a little touch, but still basicly a flat line when comparing to Virtual/Augmented Reality – but as said take no notice of Google Trends.

The key to Mixed Reality/MR’s future is a perception change, which surely you and other MR investors know there hasn’t been yet as the tech you call MR is still being called AR for the most part if your being truthful, if/when that changes then Google Trends (if these stats interest you) will change.

Good luck!

Mads · Mar 12, 2017

That's what I am sayin...Perception is changing! You are still NOT seeing/ accepting!
I got nothing against AR /VR.
You still are insisting it as AR instead of MR. N still stubborn not to do research n throwing same old sentences even as the market is changing!
No problem, I believe in spending productive time getting "catching-up" domains instead of arguing here!

Cheers!

Kingslayer · Mar 12, 2017

Mads said:
That's what I am sayin...Perception is changing! You are still NOT seeing/ accepting!
I got nothing against AR /VR.
You still are insisting it as AR instead of MR. N still stubborn not to do research n throwing same old sentences even as the market is changing!
No problem, I believe in spending productive time getting "catching-up" domains instead of arguing here!

Cheers!

These are all Google news articles posted last 24 hours on ‘HoloLens:-

https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr...wCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=hololens&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:d&*

As you can see just about article (other maybe 2) call HoloLens a Augmented Reality headset.

I do get the impression MR investors see me as some sort of enemy of Mixed Reality every time I talk about it, but I’m just saying things how I see it and evidence is there for even you to see surely? So I’m sorry I don’t agree perception is changing at all, as evidence doesn’t suggest this.

Do I think it will, maybe but it all depends on the impact of Micosoft’s ‘Windows Mixed Reality’ name change will have, as I said a few times since this happened, it’s potentially game changing and does no matter what make the term ‘Mixed Reality’ relevant in Virtual related tech, just how big though remains to be seen.

As said many companies have already built their company around VR/AR, I'm not talking abbreviations in company names, I'm talking the actual techs and what they call these techs, so not only is it going to be difficult to change public perception but business perception too and getting businesses to totally change business models.

MetaverseBranding · Mar 12, 2017

KingslayerVR said:
Google trends always goes up with announcements from a major company, the key is it staying there or carrying on going up more.

‘Mixed Reality’ seems to have gone back down to levels what it was before Microsoft’s announcement now though looking at last 30 days.

I wouldn’t bother reading too much into Google Trends at this stage though. Key for Mixed Reality and MR is press/blogs/social media and companies themselves using the term MR to describe the tech instead of VR/AR.

There’s new companies forming everyday calling themselves a ‘VR’ company and a ‘AR’ company. How many ‘MR’ companies are forming on a daily/weekly/monthly basis and branding themselves around the ‘MR’ abbreviation?

That’s the key right now for Mixed Reality/MR, a change in perception and that’s not going to be easy as many companies have branded themselves around VR/AR, if perception does change then you will see Google trends go up.

If companies are currently branding themselves VR or AR it is 100% the right thing to do at this current stage because we currently only have AR and VR tech that is consumer ready.

If a company offers VR they should 100% consider branding around VR, the same applies to AR.

In the future though if a company is to offer mixed reality tech/experiences they should consider branding around that tech.

There are currently no companies who are consumer ready to release mixed reality tech. But the difference is there are companies who do have future plans to release mixed reality tech.

You made a great point in saying it is a good idea to listen to the messages coming out of these companies. I did not find this kind of info on google alerts however.

You will be suprised but there are quite a few companies who once considered their tech to be AR who are correctly redefining it to mixed reality.

This is not being done to be awkward. It is being done because they have realised their future tech falls in line with mixed reality apposed to augmented reality (yes they are two different techs).

If the next iphone only as AR capabilities then I 100% agree they should call the tech AR.

I have some AR domains because I see massive potential in AR.

Yes it is going to be a little while before mixed reality gets more momentum. But seeming as though Microsoft are delaying their "proper mixed reality" headset until 2019 is a indication that we are a couple of years away from this kind of tech anyway.

VRdommy · Mar 12, 2017

It is a bit easy to keep re-defining what it means to make your new hardware seem different.
But re-defining a reality to do that is a bad move.
I can tell you if the definitions of the reality's keeps changing, I'll never get my feet wet in new names for it because the likelihood of it changing again is better than good and a higher risk.

If you were not evolved with this more than the past 6 years, I guess I don't expect you to understand the broader picture I'm pointing to. But it might be a domain names disaster is the point I'm making.
It has nothing directly to do with the actual techs which are all good.
But the confusion created is but a laughing matter for me as I have seen it coming for a while !
I have been playing names according to that which I see like everyone else.
You will never get to see the forest while hugging that tree.

But I might remind everyone this is a names forum fist, not a tech forum. So keep your tech talk pointed as it relates to domains names if going on about it more than a few posts.

BostonDomainer · Mar 12, 2017

Mads said:
I received crazy offers / inquiries in last 3 weeks on my MR names! And from all over the world!
Major share from US & Europe but its China that's I am very excited about!

Unfortunately "crazy offers" don't make a niche successful and hot.... verified sales do... end user sales and a semblance of mass usage does. I hear you and @NamePov and @Elad n 's arguments though. Buy now because they are available and it's a low barrier to entry. I've bought a handful of MR names. But buying a quantity of unproven risky names rather then a few in a niche with a proven market base like VR, 3 letter .coms, or even those stupid chips (those are all options with an established base) but you think MR is a better option with no true signal. (Sorry, Windows Mixed Reality is not good enough or hypeman Scoble).

I am not an MR naysayer (or as you may call them- Kingslayer

jkn) There are certain fundamentals in domaining I just don't see yet in MR to warrant a buyout- it's that simple. When you've had to hold a large portfolio of future trend names for 5+ years you'll learn to be selective in timing. You'll see the ups and down of terminologies and nomenclature and how fickle they can be. There's actually a video on LinkedIN of a recent presentation last week that was vocal against the introduction of new terms in the realities and how MR is not necessary and only divides. (I'll try to find it again and post)

The very popular 9TO5Mac.com blog news site, they define MR as:

Mixed reality

Mixed reality is nothing more than a marketing term created by Microsoft for its HoloLens. Really, it’s just augmented reality.

If you need a news article to defend your view... it's online.

You have to play the general market and not just the very myopic niche within a niche domain market. Smart investors buy stock when there is a long uptrend with still an upside.

That said... be comfortable with your investments though. If you can defend your case with an open mind to the other side then stick with whatever path you decide to go on. I think some of you have good names that should MR take off- would have end user value.

I personally will continue to buy MR names very sparingly here and there until sales start coming in and a market is established... I'm not speculating and making buys at every news article that may pop up on the fickle internet. MR is risky compared to alternative investment vehicles that are already out there, in use, and selling.

But I hope MR succeeds. More playing field for us all!! But the battle isn't going to be won on a domain forum. Show me branding...Show me sales.

MetaverseBranding · Mar 12, 2017

BostonDomainer said:
Unfortunately "crazy offers" don't make a niche successful and hot.... verified sales do... end user sales and a semblance of mass usage does. I hear you and @NamePov and @Elad n 's arguments though. Buy now because they are available and it's a low barrier to entry. I've bought a handful of MR names. But buying a quantity of unproven risky names rather then a few in a niche with a proven market base like VR, 3 letter .coms, or even those stupid chips (those are all options with an established base) but you think MR is a better option with no true signal. (Sorry, Windows Mixed Reality is not good enough or hypeman Scoble).

I am not an MR naysayer (or as you may call them- Kingslayer jkn) There are certain fundamentals in domaining I just don't see yet in MR to warrant a buyout- it's that simple. When you've had to hold a large portfolio of future trend names for 5+ years you'll learn to be selective in timing. You'll see the ups and down of terminologies and nomenclature and how fickle they can be. There's actually a video on LinkedIN of a recent presentation last week that was vocal against the introduction of new terms in the realities and how MR is not necessary and only divides. (I'll try to find it again and post)

The very popular 9TO5Mac.com blog news site, they define MR as:

If you need a news article to defend your view... it's online.

You have to play the general market and not just the very myopic niche within a niche domain market. Smart investors buy stock when there is a long uptrend with still an upside.

That said... be comfortable with your investments though. If you can defend your case with an open mind to the other side then stick with whatever path you decide to go on. I think some of you have good names that should MR take off- would have end user value.

I personally will continue to buy MR names very sparingly here and there until sales start coming in and a market is established... I'm not speculating and making buys at every news article that may pop up on the fickle internet. MR is risky compared to alternative investment vehicles that are already out there, in use, and selling.

But I hope MR succeeds. More playing field for us all!! But the battle isn't going to be won on a domain forum. Show me branding...Show me sales.

Give us five years then lol

I would not consider anyone a naysayer. But myself, Elad & Mads invested into MR because we got a indication of what was happening behind the scenes.

Yes 100% agree looking at google alerts I understand the caution.

But @Elad n & @Mads have gone to the lengths to contact companies direct to establish their future plans.

That is how I know some companies that people may consider have got an AR plan have switched their attention to mixed reality.

I am not expecting anyone to believe me.

I actually did tell @KingslayerVR this months ago and I am sure Elad & Mads won't mind confirming this.

But there are big reasons as to why I feel Microsoft won't be the only ones coming out and saying our future vision is mixed reality.

Elad n · Mar 12, 2017

BostonDomainer said:
Unfortunately "crazy offers" don't make a niche successful and hot.... verified sales do... end user sales and a semblance of mass usage does. I hear you and @NamePov and @Elad n 's arguments though. Buy now because they are available and it's a low barrier to entry. I've bought a handful of MR names. But buying a quantity of unproven risky names rather then a few in a niche with a proven market base like VR, 3 letter .coms, or even those stupid chips (those are all options with an established base) but you think MR is a better option with no true signal. (Sorry, Windows Mixed Reality is not good enough or hypeman Scoble).

I am not an MR naysayer (or as you may call them- Kingslayer jkn) There are certain fundamentals in domaining I just don't see yet in MR to warrant a buyout- it's that simple. When you've had to hold a large portfolio of future trend names for 5+ years you'll learn to be selective in timing. You'll see the ups and down of terminologies and nomenclature and how fickle they can be. There's actually a video on LinkedIN of a recent presentation last week that was vocal against the introduction of new terms in the realities and how MR is not necessary and only divides. (I'll try to find it again and post)

The very popular 9TO5Mac.com blog news site, they define MR as:

If you need a news article to defend your view... it's online.

You have to play the general market and not just the very myopic niche within a niche domain market. Smart investors buy stock when there is a long uptrend with still an upside.

That said... be comfortable with your investments though. If you can defend your case with an open mind to the other side then stick with whatever path you decide to go on. I think some of you have good names that should MR take off- would have end user value.

I personally will continue to buy MR names very sparingly here and there until sales start coming in and a market is established... I'm not speculating and making buys at every news article that may pop up on the fickle internet. MR is risky compared to alternative investment vehicles that are already out there, in use, and selling.

But I hope MR succeeds. More playing field for us all!! But the battle isn't going to be won on a domain forum. Show me branding...Show me sales.

@BostonDomainer always classy

with an open mind.
There are forces that trying to shift things to their directions (and i ain't talking domainers).
Lots of individuals in the AR space (techies) cant swallow the MR term the showed up all of a sudden, and its funny but even in tech cycles, many of the talks are about terms and not about the technology.. There is an issue and marketing is a key so tension is all over the place..

6-12 months imo and everything will be clearer.

VRdommy · Mar 13, 2017

BostonDomainer said:
Unfortunately "crazy offers" don't make a niche successful and hot.... verified sales do... end user sales and a semblance of mass usage does. I hear you and @NamePov and @Elad n 's arguments though. Buy now because they are available and it's a low barrier to entry. I've bought a handful of MR names. But buying a quantity of unproven risky names rather then a few in a niche with a proven market base like VR, 3 letter .coms, or even those stupid chips (those are all options with an established base) but you think MR is a better option with no true signal. (Sorry, Windows Mixed Reality is not good enough or hypeman Scoble).

I am not an MR naysayer (or as you may call them- Kingslayer jkn) There are certain fundamentals in domaining I just don't see yet in MR to warrant a buyout- it's that simple. When you've had to hold a large portfolio of future trend names for 5+ years you'll learn to be selective in timing. You'll see the ups and down of terminologies and nomenclature and how fickle they can be. There's actually a video on LinkedIN of a recent presentation last week that was vocal against the introduction of new terms in the realities and how MR is not necessary and only divides. (I'll try to find it again and post)

The very popular 9TO5Mac.com blog news site, they define MR as:

If you need a news article to defend your view... it's online.

You have to play the general market and not just the very myopic niche within a niche domain market. Smart investors buy stock when there is a long uptrend with still an upside.

That said... be comfortable with your investments though. If you can defend your case with an open mind to the other side then stick with whatever path you decide to go on. I think some of you have good names that should MR take off- would have end user value.

I personally will continue to buy MR names very sparingly here and there until sales start coming in and a market is established... I'm not speculating and making buys at every news article that may pop up on the fickle internet. MR is risky compared to alternative investment vehicles that are already out there, in use, and selling.

But I hope MR succeeds. More playing field for us all!! But the battle isn't going to be won on a domain forum. Show me branding...Show me sales.

A Very thoughtful well rounded post indeed.

Ya know,
Every time I sort through the drop list graveyard, I get a lesson in anatomy....
... never let the enthusiasm bone connect to the greed bone.
You need them both but they should never bind with each other.
I think it causes blindness or something.

If I only had a buck for every time I have herd 'yes, but this is different this time'.
.......
Robot VR ?
https://thenextweb.com/virtual-real...es-are-the-vr-experience-youve-always-wanted/

While I do have VRrobotics , this is a 4D play I think. Perhaps Arcade4D , Gear4D , 4Dpods

doubleU · Mar 13, 2017

‘It’s cool, but it’s not a game changer’: Adobe is testing VR ads, yet believes AR will be more valuable to marketers

Manusakos · Mar 13, 2017

SpatialPresence

Immersion in Computer Games: The Role of Spatial Presence and Flow

A main reason to play computer games is the pleasure of being immersed in a mediated world. Spatial presence and flow are considered key concepts to explain such immersive experiences.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...r_Games_The_Role_of_Spatial_Presence_and_Flow

MetaverseBranding · Mar 13, 2017

doubleU said:
‘It’s cool, but it’s not a game changer’: Adobe is testing VR ads, yet believes AR will be more valuable to marketers

100% agree with this.

Mobile AR is perfect for advertising opportunities.

I think @Manusakos owns AdvertisingAR (.com) which is a fantastic name imo.

I have got AdvertisingMR (.com) & AdsMR (.com) but would have loved to own the name Manusakos got

Manusakos · Mar 13, 2017

NamePov said:
100% agree with this.

Mobile AR is perfect for advertising opportunities.

I think @Manusakos owns AdvertisingAR (.com) which is a fantastic name imo.

I have got AdvertisingMR (.com) & AdsMR (.com) but would have loved to own the name Manusakos got

Thank you my friend,
AdvertisingMR and AdsMR are also Great names!

VRdommy · Mar 13, 2017

A Look at the Qualcomm Snapdragon
https://www.cnet.com/videos/is-your-body-ready-for-vr-arcades/

cordoba · Mar 13, 2017

Lowe's testing Holoroom How To virtual reality helper for DIY projects
Holoroom How To allows customers visiting the Lowe's location to use a virtual reality headset and controller in each hand, and become immersed in a specific DIY project — such as tiling a shower — getting step-by-step instructions to complete the task. Haptic feedback, such as feeling the vibration of a drill through the controller, adds to the life-like experience, without the waste or mess of testing a DIY project in the real world.

http://www.retaildive.com/news/lowe...r-for-diy-projects/437610/?platform=hootsuite

I think the fact that all of these VR companies and projects are branding themselves as Holo is a good thing for VR names in particular. The Holo/MR market is expected to be 10 x that of VR in just a few years time. If so many VR companies call themselves holo, it follows as a matter of logic that most Holo/MR companies will brand themselves as VR. In the end, it's likely that most of us will make money by selling our VR names to companies producing content for mixed reality/HoloLens.

cordoba · Mar 13, 2017

Manusakos said:
Thank you my friend,
AdvertisingMR and AdsMR are also Great names!

Well it's a poor relation, but I own HoloAdverts.

VRdommy · Mar 13, 2017

This pretty much sums up my target following where part of this new media tech is headed.
It's a combination of VR/AR & 3D printing tech that I just call 'Engineering v2.0'
Been picking up a few names here and there in advance of the co-existing techs for about 5 years.
http://www.tctmagazine.com/tctblogs/laura-griffiths-blog/the-changing-face-of-cad/

If you were ever a user of early AutoCAD (myself in the early 90's) and have sampled what can be done in these VR versions. You can't help but be blown away by it. But to integrate that with actual production & prototyping is a step of monumental proportions. And that is the Pandora's box I have been waiting for someone to open. Suddenly, every backyard inventor has the tools to make a idea a reality.
How do you spell - d i s r u p t i o n. More consumers in need is all great for names !

Jasper schilperoord · Mar 13, 2017

VRdommy said:
This pretty much sums up my target following where part of this new media tech is headed.
It's a combination of VR/AR & 3D printing tech that I just call 'Engineering v2.0'
Been picking up a few names here and there in advance of the co-existing techs for about 5 years.
http://www.tctmagazine.com/tctblogs/laura-griffiths-blog/the-changing-face-of-cad/

If you were ever a user of early AutoCAD (myself in the early 90's) and have sampled what can be done in these VR versions. You can't help but be blown away by it. But to integrate that with actual production & prototyping is a step of monumental proportions. And that is the Pandora's box I have been waiting for someone to open. Suddenly, every backyard inventor has the tools to make a idea a reality.
How do you spell - d i s r u p t i o n. More consumers in need is all great for names !

CADMR
in .com

VRdommy · Mar 14, 2017

More eSports type stuff...

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2017/03/08/vr-sports-aims-to-be-wii-sports-in-vr/249570/

http://routenote.com/blog/youtubes-...e-games-like-minecraft-and-league-of-legends/

http://techfrag.com/2017/03/10/gear-vr-gameplay-facebook-live/

BTW, the term esports is not new.
If you look, most better domains surrounding it have been reg'd for more than 15 years.
Talk about waiting for it to fruit ! But I guess we can say the same for better VR names.
Except for the impatient ones who let some drop.

MetaverseBranding · Mar 14, 2017

Quick question.

We are all pretty much expecting Apple to bring out a new iPhone with AR capabilities.

How many of you lot think you will go for the new iPhone?

I have always been a Samsung guy myself but if the new phone is as advanced as it is rumoured to be I might be willing to switch across to iPhone for the first time in my life.

Or does anyone think that one of the other smartphone companies are working on a solution to rival the next iPhone?

cordoba · Mar 14, 2017

NamePov said:
Quick question.

We are all pretty much expecting Apple to bring out a new iPhone with AR capabilities.

How many of you lot think you will go for the new iPhone?

I have always been a Samsung guy myself but if the new phone is as advanced as it is rumoured to be I might be willing to switch across to iPhone for the first time in my life.

Or does anyone think that one of the other smartphone companies are working on a solution to rival the next iPhone?

Well I've never bought an Apple product in my life but I might consider getting the new iPhone if it does have AR features. I sort of live in two different countries anyway so I like to have a different smartphone for each.

As far as other companies working on an AR solution to rival a hypothetical Apple AR phone, isn't that what Google's Project Tango is? I thought there were a couple of Chinese phones utilizing it already with bigger companies joining ship later this year.

MetaverseBranding · Mar 14, 2017

cordoba said:
Well I've never bought an Apple product in my life but I might consider getting the new iPhone if it does have AR features. I sort of live in two different countries anyway so I like to have a different smartphone for each.

As far as other companies working on an AR solution to rival a hypothetical Apple AR phone, isn't that what Google's Project Tango is? I thought there were a couple of Chinese phones utilizing it already with bigger companies joining ship later this year.

Yes possibly mate but I think Apple are also planning on realeasing a 3oz pair of glasses that can paire with the phone to give it even more advanced capabilities than just mobile AR.

I have heard that there will be three different models of the iPhone but apparently they are going to suprise most with some of the tech specs these phones may contain.

Obviously it is all speculation at the moment but these new Apple products are rumoured to be a massive tech advancement on any smartphone we have witnessed before.

And could also be a milestone for other's in the smartphone industry to try and follow.

I am still pretty sceptical though, but by September we should have our answer.

cordoba · Mar 14, 2017

Well it would be great if that happens this year, but it seems we don't have much reason to believe it other than Robert Scoble and the fact that Tim Cook praised AR massively recently.

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