news Dan.com to increase comission from 9% to 15% effective Feb 1st 2023

[MadAboutDomains]

Just received this email from Dan.com about commission increases (snippet of email):

Thoughts?

 

[Joe drake]

This is an alignment of commissions across the GoDaddy aftermarket. You can read more about this move here: https://uniregistry.com/blog/post/godaddy-aftermarket-alignment
or https://news.dan.com/221733-dan-and-godaddy-aftermarket-commission-alignment

less than a month to stop life and change all your names around 3000 domains all over the place or pay 25% if you forget to cancel afternic my suggestion is do what I did ,turn all domains to hide on afternic which releases you out of your aftergoDaNNYyuni obligation oh yeah godaddy eatiing everyones lunch ,but wall street technology coming to domains soon ''mayb'e'' nasdaq market makers thinking about using supersonic speed to start catching some gems.

 

[branding]

Does sedo offer SSL on their landers yet? Before the redirect that is?

Can't seem to find it and getting thrown security warnings is off-putting.

 

[Joe drake]

Does anyone know how to get buy it now links for escrow.com ,I see them around sometimes and basically we keep all the commission and the trust factor is there for the buyer media options should jump on this right away Ill be first to change 4000 nameservers to escrow/Media options landers and with fast pricing entry we can be all set up in a couple hours 10% fees and escrow clearance complete would be mint for everyone

 

[Ostrados]

That's nothing new. I'm talking more for domainers who will be missing the coverage at GoDaddy, you can simply list direct with them.

You will pay 25% if you list domains directly at Godaddy (when not using their NS)
I received email from Godaddy Auctions confirming that
So there is no workaround thanks for the suggestion though

 

[Joe drake]

NEVER EVER EVER approve fast transfer ,one of my domains at afterdannyunidaddy that I had approved almost got transferred out of my account and guess who got the sale ,,,the guy who dropped it and was on fast transfer b4 me and afterdanny initally told me the domain was listed by someone else and I had to prove it was mine even though there was a 2 month break in the registry ,good thing name silo double locked it right away

 

[Ostrados]

There are some annoying Afternic issues that go back many years and are still not fixed.

They still don't have a proper search engine, where you can narrow down what you are looking for.

Brad

You forgot to mention that they still have no TXT verification method and that you have to manually send email to support to remove names (which feels 1999)

I can solo implement a TXT verification system on any website in few hours.

 

[karmaco]

Because Escrow is not supported in poor countries.
edit: i think this is related to something locally, our government does not want you to get rich, because if you get you can come into high position and wipe them out of their deeds.

Nothing to do with poor or rich. It has to do with high fraud activity or sanctions on the country.

 

[Joe drake]

I wonder if sellers who use Efty landing pages that use Dan for check out will still only be charged 5% or 25%?

If 5%, I think Efty could have a great year.

even a better year when godannynic buys them out

 

[JB Lions]

You will pay 25% if you list domains directly at Godaddy (when not using their NS)
I received email from Godaddy Auctions confirming that
So there is no workaround thanks for the suggestion though

You’re right, rereading the email.

Even better for me, 15% instead of 20%

 

[Ostrados]

Does sedo offer SSL on their landers yet? Before the redirect that is?

Can't seem to find it and getting thrown security warnings is off-putting.

Yes I tried their landers and they are fully https

 

[Ostrados]

Even better for me, 15% instead of 20%

Yes we know that 15% is good news for many, we got your point you repeated it many times already.

But it is not about only you, the 25% is bad news for the users of:

• Brandable marketplaces such as SquadHelp , Brandbucket, Brandpa ..etc.
• Bodis & other parking services
• Domain.io and other new landing page providers
• People who use their own websites

Additionally, few top sellers will not be happy with the removal of tiered commission at Afternic.

So what Godaddy did is almost crushing all other small competitors with one simple move, they knew that Afternic traffic is indispensable and that the 25% penalty will put pressure on all of us.

It would have been seen as positive move if Godady did in the following way:
"We will reward you if you point to us by reducing commission to 15%, if not then you will pay the old 20% commission"

If they did it that way then it would have been seen as a huge positive plus to them, because it is rewarding system not penalty system. And I am sure that if they used that then people will automatically start converting more to their NS, but now many people will get angry and will do the opposite.

 

[domaindevil]

We'll be keeping it at 10% for buy now saleslander sales for now.

For now? Don't get any stupid ideas now...

 

[JB Lions]

Yes we know that 15% is good news for many, we got your point you repeated it many times already.

But it is not about only you, the 25% is bad news for the users of:

• Brandable marketplaces such as SquadHelp , Brandbucket, Brandpa ..etc.
• Bodis & other parking services
• Domain.io and other new landing page providers
• People who use their own websites

Additionally, few top sellers will not be happy with the removal of tiered commission at Afternic.

So what Godaddy did is almost crushing all other small competitors with one simple move, they know that Afternic traffic is indispensable and that the 25% penalty will put pressure on all of us.

It would have been seen as positive move if Godady did in the following way:
"We will reward you if you point to us by reducing commission to 15%, if not then you would pay the old 20% commission"

If they did it that way then it would have been seen as a huge positive plus to them, because it is rewarding system not penalty system. And I am sure that if they used that then people will automatically start converting more to their NS, but now many people will get angry and will do the opposite.

You mean like getting the point of 25% since you’ve repeated it many times already?

As a domainer you adjust

As a competitor you compete

Crying about something incessantly doesn’t usually get results. I don’t see them changing

 

[Ostrados]

Well, as a domainer you adjust

As a competitor you compete

Again it is not about only you

Personally I am not affected that much because I left SquadHelp in 2021 , and I was already using DAN/Afternic before the fees increase announcement.

but lets be less selfish and think about others, there are people that make living from Bodis (not me)

I hope you understand

 

[JB Lions]

Again it is not about only you

Personally I am not affected that much because I left SquadHelp in 2021 , and I was already using DAN/Afternic before the fees increase announcement.

but lets be less selfish and think about others, there are people that make living from Bodis (not me)

I hope you understand

When I said domainer, that meant everybody. What other option is there besides adjust.

As far as their competitors, what are they doing to compete, what more can they can do.

 

[Younginn]

 

[Younginn]

I didn't wait until Feb, and made some changes right away in pricing. My Afternic BIN prices are slightly lower now. Will keep all my landers at Dan for the moment.

Hmm you LOWERED your prices after the announcement? Is it because the names you list with Afternic are mostly in the xx and low xxx?

I think other competitors are taking notice with so many domaineers looking at their options now. I got a notice from SH that they're charging 4.5% for imported leads.

Each name is unique with their own target market so I wonder if the new shift will push others to try a hybrid method of splitting up their portfolio.

 

[twiki]

It is just so blatantly anti-competition I am not sure how you could possibly defend it.

Brad

Simple. Support the competition instead.

 

[sharfab]

The competition have to also be up to par and offer equivalent or appealing service before just randomly moving to the other side..

 

[twiki]

The competition have to also be up to par and offer equivalent or appealing service before just randomly moving to the other side..

Then why complain? We complain for nothing if we don't do something.

It's a simple decision.

Either accept the system as it is, with consequences.

Or, chose to go with competition, also with consequences.

There's not way to have the cake and eat it as well here.

 

[JB Lions]

Can’t do hot girl advertising anymore, won’t fly today. What else did GoDaddy do?

Super Bowl commercials? Most don’t have that kind of money.

$1 coupons for dot coms. The GoDaddy coupon thread used to be one of the most active threads here before they killed that. Coupons everybody could use. Other registrars should dollar up, get people into your site, keep them coming back.

Maybe if we had more threads on this GoDaddy will change their mind. Only about 8, need at least 10 and they’ll go back to 20%

Dan announced commission increase

Dan.com has just killed itself

Dan Commission Update

Dan.com to increase comission from 9% to 15% effective Feb 1st 2023

Afternic to Increase Commission to 25% for Those Not Using The GD-Related Landers, But Decrease Commission to 15% for those using them.

What are best alternatives to DAN? (since Godaddy has bought & ruined the service as expected)

As GoDaddy changes commission rates at Afternic, DAN, Uniregistry at what point do their actions become monopolistic?

Now that DAN updated it's commission, what's the best approach?

 

[bmugford]

Simple. Support the competition instead.

Then why complain? We complain for nothing if we don't do something.

It's a simple decision.

Either accept the system as it is, with consequences.

Or, chose to go with competition, also with consequences.

There's not way to have the cake and eat it as well here.

Well, like I said I am considering options. I am just starting to research now when it comes to landers, negotiation process, payment systems, payout options, etc.

It is actually not that simple of a decision, mainly because GoDaddy threw the 25% monkey wrench into the equation.

For me I probably have around half of my portfolio priced and listed at Afternic.
Some are using Afternic landers, some Dan.com landers. I don't see any reason to move those.

I have the other (better) half listed @ Dan, with Dan landers.
Many of these are unpriced.

These were not listed on Afternic to start with. They were not even in the GoDaddy ecosystem at all until I started using Dan.

These are the ones I am looking at other options for as I prefer to self-broker, but likely not for a 15% fee.
For 9% I was fine with it. When you start going higher, it is worth looking at other options.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Can’t do hot girl advertising anymore, won’t fly today. What else did GoDaddy do?

Super Bowl commercials? Most don’t have that kind of money.

$1 coupons for dot coms. The GoDaddy coupon thread used to be one of the most active threads here before they killed that. Coupons everybody could use. Other registrars should dollar up, get people into your site, keep them coming back.

Maybe if we had more threads on this GoDaddy will change their mind. Only about 8, need at least 10 and they’ll go back to 20%

Dan announced commission increase

Dan.com has just killed itself

Dan Commission Update

Dan.com to increase comission from 9% to 15% effective Feb 1st 2023

Afternic to Increase Commission to 25% for Those Not Using The GD-Related Landers, But Decrease Commission to 15% for those using them.

What are best alternatives to DAN? (since Godaddy has bought & ruined the service as expected)

As GoDaddy changes commission rates at Afternic, DAN, Uniregistry at what point do their actions become monopolistic?

Now that DAN updated it's commission, what's the best approach?

What are customers supposed to do just bend over and take it? I think it is perfectly reasonable to voice your feedback.

If GoDaddy doesn't want to change, that is fine...but they should know how customers feel about it.

Brad

 

[JB Lions]

What are customers supposed to do just bend over and take it? I think it is perfectly reasonable to voice your feedback.

If GoDaddy doesn't want to change, that is fine...but they should know how customers feel about it.

Brad

I think they have a pretty good idea after 8 threads. I think they knew before the first thread was started. Nobody likes price increases. As far as their more GoDaddy centric users, you’ll be paying less. I didn’t even take into account the domains I sell via GoDaddy auctions, I have those all set to Make Offer.

Dan I’ll pay 6% more
GoDaddy I’ll pay 5% less
Afternic I’ll pay 5% less

Those 3 places are pretty much where all my sales come from. Direct to Dan landing pages, via Afternic distribution network or GoDaddy. So even tho I don't like the increase at Dan to 15%, I will probably take in more money because of the decreases at the other places.

Yes, yes, yes, the 25% that people will pay that don’t use their landers. Again, the only thing you can do is adjust the best you can. Use their landers and pay less. Factor it in to the price if you use other landers. Find something else.

 

[bmugford]

Yes, yes, yes, the 25% that people will pay that don’t use their landers. Again, the only thing you can do is adjust the best you can. Use their landers and pay less. Factor it in to the price if you use other landers. Find something else.

Going down this path is also a slippery slope IMO.

GoDaddy can start here but why not 30% or 35%?

What about introducing this approach to other aspects of the company.

I could imagine other interesting and creative ways you could use this carrot & stick approach, but don't want to give any ideas.

They are marketing it like it is some reward, when it is actually more of a penalty.

Brad