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Just received this email from Dan.com about commission increases (snippet of email):
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
What he gonna say. Godaddy has paid him $71M to buy and subdue Dan.com.Reza (Dan founder) thoughts on this:
My (personal) view on the recent Dan & Godaddy commission alignment: 1: 55-60% of domain sales originate at the biggest and most effective distribution network (Afternic). The commission there is decreased from 20% to 15%. 2: 45%-40% via optimized for sale pages and... 1/4
the commission from direct lander sales will be aligned with what you pay for a distributed sale. Effectively, the average domainer will not see a net negative on his/her sales outcome but in some cases even a positive outcome after this commission alignment. 2/4
Historically domainers react negatively to paying a commission but I've always said that a commission-less domain industry would lead to zero innovation as operating in the field without income results in no R&D and so product development or simply poor service. 3/4
To conclude: the roadmap of Dan & Godaddy for the secondary market is huge and exciting and is delivering tremendous value for all domainers that utilize these services effectively. Nobody likes change but great things are on the horizon 4/4
Or join the club and now only pay 15% instead of 20%. And Sedo is an option at 20%, they probably like this move.LOL. Now do the 25% penalty for not using GoDaddy nameservers...
That is the change that I, and many others, have the most problem with.
It is just so blatantly anti-competition I am not sure how you could possibly defend it.
Brad
All BS. The real goal of the "update" is to harm competition, to increase their monopoly and to destroy any attempt of competiton.Or join the club and now only pay 15% instead of 20%. And Sedo is an option at 20%, they probably like this move.
As far as:
1: 55-60% of domain sales originate at the biggest and most effective distribution network (Afternic). The commission there is decreased from 20% to 15%. 2: 45%-40% via optimized for sale pages and... 1/4
Effectively, the average domainer will not see a net negative on his/her sales outcome but in some cases even a positive outcome after this commission alignment. 2/4
Goes with what I posted earlier, probably true in the end.
Of course the update is to harm competition, that's the point. You're supposed to wreck the competition.All BS. The real goal of the "update" is to harm competition, to increase their monopoly and to destroy any attempt of competiton.
That's why many people are already migrating their landers to Godaddy's "network" of landers.
That's why the "USE MY LANDERS OR PAY 10% MORE IN AFTERNIC".
So, the point is that's a clearly anticompetitive and monopilistic practice that goes against Antritrust laws.Of course the update is to harm competition, that's the point.
I think it is easy to see what the changes are designed to do.Of course the update is to harm competition, that's the point.
But actually if it drives people to their competition it helps their competion.
Sedo. Does this move hurt or help Sedo?
There is no shortage of options, ones you've skipped over in your replies.So, the point is that's a clearly anticompetitive and monopilistic practice that go against Antritrust laws.
You must be joking. Tell that to Efty, Bodis, or whatever alternative marketplace using their own dns.But actually if it drives people to their competition it helps their competion.
Sedo should be the first concerned with Afternic's move. Starting from the fact that they cannot use Godaddy on their MLS network. Clearly excluding them from the biggest registrar of the world.Sedo. Does this move hurt or help Sedo? How does it hurt them? I see people posting their now going to try out their landers, try out their distribution network since it's now cheaper. That seems like a win for Sedo to me.
Not following, how does this hurt Efty? I've actually seen people asking about them because of this. I have Efty as well. You could handle the sales on your own via Escrow, Stripe, many other methods.You must be joking. Tell that to Efty, Bodis, or whatever alternative marketplace using their own dns.
Not sure if you are joking or what.Not following, how does this hurt Efty? I've actually seen people asking about them because of this. I have Efty as well. You could handle the sales on your own via Escrow, Stripe, many other methods.
I hope you follow that you can use Sedo MLS and list directly at GoDaddy, same coverage.Not sure if you are joking or what.
When you use Efty, you have to use their DNS. So then if you also list your domains at Afternic and they get sold there, you will end paying 25% of commission instead of 10%.
I hope you can follow now.
Well, you essentially have to make a difficult choice.Not following, how does this hurt Efty? I've actually seen people asking about them because of this. I have Efty as well. You could handle the sales on your own via Escrow, Stripe, many other methods.
I see that you really have problems to follow me."Starting from the fact that they cannot use Godaddy on their MLS network."
You can list directly on GoDaddy plus use the Sedo network.
That's nothing new. I'm talking more for domainers who will be missing the coverage at GoDaddy, you can simply list direct with them.I see that you really have problems to follow me.
I am talking about Sedo as a company. Sedo cannot list on their Sedo MLS network domains registered at the biggest registrar of the world, Godaddy. So this clearly benefits Afternic (Godaddy), Sedo's competitor.
I know that's nothing new. But still it's a clear anticompetitive and monopolistic practice by Godaddy.That's nothing new. I'm talking more for domainers who will be missing the coverage at GoDaddy, you can simply list direct with them.
You can also:Well, you essentially have to make an a difficult choice.
1.) You use Etfy landers. The domain is not @Afternic at all.
So you don't have access to Afternic's distribution network.
2.) You use Efty landers. You also list it on Afternic.
It sells on Afternic. You have to pay a 25% commission.
In a way the commission penalty acts like some type of exclusivity, where any choice not to use their namesevers is penalized.
If the name sells via Afternic, I am not sure why the commission should not be the same regardless of what landers you use.
Brad
They use the same commission structure as Afternic. Do you think it will stay the same structure after Afternic's "update"?you can simply list direct with them.
It's 20% now, so it's actually more once Afternic goes to 15%. I have no idea what they will do with that. I don't think they will raise it.They use the same commission structure as Afternic. Do you think it will stay the same structure after Afternic's "update"?
Not to mention that the "payment process" for domains listed directly at Godaddy is not the same as for those listed through Afternic.you can simply list direct with them.
Like I said, more of hassle. I'm talking about if you're worried about getting coverage. You can list direct with them.Not to mention that the "payment process" for domains listed directly at Godaddy is not the same as for those listed through Afternic.
For domains listed directly at Godaddy, for transactions over $5k, you go through Escrow.com (it's not the same "smooth" process as when listing at Afternic).
Mor than a hassle, it's a quite different sale and purchase process.Like I said, more of hassle. I'm talking about if you're worried about getting coverage. You can list direct with them.
Yes, I didn't get sales there anyway!You removed them from AN?