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People all over the world struggle with basic living conditions, medical care for their children.

The degenerate liberals in the first world are struggling with being unable to select "X" as a gender when buying a ticket to fly on an airplane.
 
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Progressive activist are degenerates who would rather incite hatred than have good government by the "wrong" people.

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Who's gonna win this tug of war between Djokovic and Australia? One thing's for sure, even if they ban/deport him, Australia will be the big loser!
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Who's gonna win this tug of war between Djokovic and Australia? One thing's for sure, even if they ban/deport him, Australia will be the big loser!
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AU has gone nazi.

After the tennis star was granted a visa to stay in Australia despite an initial issue with his application, Australian officials have warned they could cancel Djokovic's visa for the second time.

Government lawyer Christopher Tran told Federal Circuit Court Judge Anthony Kelly, who ruled to reinstate Djokovic's visa, that immigration officials "will consider whether to exercise a personal power of cancelation," according to ESPN.
 
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WTF... when even CNN calls you out on your bullshit. Joe Biden hired a communist to write his speeches.


#2 degenerate, Biden went to far "but"....

Democrats crying because they can't ram through their communist agenda, trying to destroy election integrity.
 
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More fakeness... :sneaky:

Trump allies created fake Electoral College certificates

The fake certificates were created by Trump allies in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico, who sought to replace valid presidential electors from their states with a pro-Trump slate, according to documents obtained by American Oversight.


The pro-Trump electors were merely claiming without any authority to be electors, as documented in the fake certificates sent to the National Archives. The certificates were essentially an elaborate public relations stunt.

The new documents weren’t the only fake certificates sent to the National Archives. Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat, told CNN’s Don Lemon that a second group called the “Sovereign Citizens of the State of Arizona” sent a rogue document to the National Archives in 2020, and she said they improperly used the Arizona state seal on their fake certificate.

“They used this fake seal to make it look official, which is not a legal activity.”


https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/12/trump-allies-created-fake-electoral-college-certificates/
 
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More fakeness... :sneaky:

Trump allies created fake Electoral College certificates

The fake certificates were created by Trump allies in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico, who sought to replace valid presidential electors from their states with a pro-Trump slate, according to documents obtained by American Oversight.

The pro-Trump electors were merely claiming without any authority to be electors, as documented in the fake certificates sent to the National Archives. The certificates were essentially an elaborate public relations stunt.

The new documents weren’t the only fake certificates sent to the National Archives. Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat, told CNN’s Don Lemon that a second group called the “Sovereign Citizens of the State of Arizona” sent a rogue document to the National Archives in 2020, and she said they improperly used the Arizona state seal on their fake certificate.

“They used this fake seal to make it look official, which is not a legal activity.”


https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/12/trump-allies-created-fake-electoral-college-certificates/
And here's my rhetoric review of the day (I bolded the sections referred to):

"In the weeks after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump’s allies sent fake certificates to the National Archives declaring that Trump won seven states that he actually lost. The documents had no impact on the outcome of the election, but they are yet another example of how Team Trump tried to subvert the Electoral College — a key line of inquiry for the January 6 committee."

Allies - What does that mean? I don't know the details of these certificates, and can't be bothered to learn all about them. But let's take this report at face value and accept that some people attempted to engage in fraudulent behavior to get their candidate elected. First off, such behavior is not uncommon at all, and yet when it is done for the Democrats it rarely gets much new coverage. Certainly, even when it is covered, they don't try to make it look as though Biden himself is behind it. The case here, to quote the turbaned tart of Minnesota, is that some people did some stuff. But to call them Trump "allies" is to suggest that Trump was part of the scam. Which is why the use the word through the whole article. Sounds better than saying, some Republican supporters did something. Because Trump is all that matters - he is the anti-Christ. Or anti-woke, whatever religion the fascists are following these days.

Yet another example of how Team Trump tried to subvert the Electoral College: Oooh, they are building a case. This is not just another election fraud attempt by a handful of people, but "Team Trump" itself. That's even better than allies. The writer is warming up to the theme here, built entirely on conjecture. The writer is saying there are countless examples of Trump trying to "subvert" the Electoral College. What an evil man he must be. They have so many examples, and yet they can't get anywhere in court with them. I wonder why that is? I also wonder why the Dems care about the Electoral College, seeing as how they have been howling about getting rid of it for the last two elections.

January 6 committee: Since they can't get anywhere in court, the Dems took a cue from Joe McCarthy and set up an illegal Senate witch hunt committee targeting ordinary citizens. Welcome to the Cultural Revolution, USA style.
 
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And here's my rhetoric review of the day (I bolded the sections referred to):

"In the weeks after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump’s allies sent fake certificates to the National Archives declaring that Trump won seven states that he actually lost. The documents had no impact on the outcome of the election, but they are yet another example of how Team Trump tried to subvert the Electoral College — a key line of inquiry for the January 6 committee."

Allies - What does that mean? ... Welcome to the Cultural Revolution, USA style.

In the forged election materials, these Trumpers literally described themselves as "the duly elected and qualified electors." So, in effect, anyone who disagrees with the statement is saying they condone election fraud (but object to the article's use of words?) :xf.laugh:

But to call them Trump "allies" is to suggest that Trump was part of the scam.

Okay, here's a little more subtle language so as not to offend T's minions followers,

After 2020, Trump backers forged election docs in even more states -- Republicans in five states created and submitted forged election materials, raising new questions about who organized the scheme.

 
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This is a circle jerk. Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness because people believe they are born with the wrong gender. Everything as to why that happens is a hypothesis.

What we do know is most people grow out of it, during puberty and the condition is often linked to a traumatic event.

Acceptance may be comforting and helpful but that can't come at the expense of others or the truth. Men and women are biologically different and not interchangeable.




Non-binary isn't transgender. Most "non-binary" people are full of shite. There are two genders, male and female, everything else is imaginary.

That last example I gave illustrated that perfectly. A grown adult was "unable" to by a airplane ticket for a 21 year old "child" because choices for sex didn't include "X".

Truth > lies.
I'm all for the truth. 1.2 million non-binary people in USA alone. You can either believe the actual data, or ignore it to support your ignorance.
 
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I'm all for the truth. 1.2 million non-binary people in USA alone. You can either believe the actual data, or ignore it to support your ignorance.

Those numbers are estimates at best. The politics of "equity" and "social justice" corrupts statistics, science, everything.

There is no doubt in my mind people are born with gender dysphoria but there are huge incentives to be a victim in our society.

What better way to prove research has been corrupted than by citing a publication about research publications.

Research: Publication bias and the canonization of false facts​

https://elifesciences.org/articles/21451


Duped academic journal publishes rewrite of ‘Mein Kampf’ as feminist manifesto
To highlight alleged intellectual bias in university ‘grievance studies’ programs, three scholars write 20 absurd papers; seven are accepted to top publications
https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped...-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/





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I'm all for the truth. 1.2 million non-binary people in USA alone. You can either believe the actual data, or ignore it to support your ignorance.

I just want to separate the nonsense from facts. We are too eager to accept claims of inequality because it makes us feel good and validates our peers.

I believe Lia Thomas feels like a woman and is more comfortable living life as a woman. I don't believe she is a biological woman and her life as a man gives her physical advantages.

I also believe the majority of people who claim they are "non-binary" are seeking attention or have a deeper mental illness.

There are also incentives to over estimate statistics.
 
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I just want to separate the nonsense from facts. We are too eager to accept claims of inequality because it makes us feel good and validates our peers.

I believe Lia Thomas feels like a woman and is more comfortable living life as a woman. I don't believe she is a biological woman and her life as a man gives her physical advantages.

I also believe the majority of people who claim they are "non-binary" are seeking attention or have a deeper mental illness.

There are also incentives to over estimate statistics.
Evidence of non-binary individuals has existed for a long long time... Indigenous cultures have long spoken of two-spirit people; the Hindu have hijras.

This might feel like a bunch of people hopping on a bandwagon, but really it's just a lot more people being willing to have the conversation.

This isn't going away either. It's not going to be "fixed" because it's not something that needs fixing. The younger generations already largely accept gender diversity. If you have school-aged kids, they very likely have non-binary friends.

I agree that our governments are overly reactionary, and that they have implemented some changes without thinking them through. That's a separate discussion, though, and it's part of the process anytime we undergo a social transformation.

Call it a sickness all you like. Gender diversity is here to stay.
 
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Evidence of non-binary individuals has existed for a long long time... Indigenous cultures have long spoken of two-spirit people; the Hindu have hijras.

This might feel like a bunch of people hopping on a bandwagon, but really it's just a lot more people being willing to have the conversation.
Uh-huh.. and not being able to select "X" as a sex will prevent you from buying a airplane ticket for your 21 year old child. Why would a news service even publish such contrived nonsense?


This isn't going away either. It's not going to be "fixed" because it's not something that needs fixing. The younger generations already largely accept gender diversity. If you have school-aged kids, they very likely have non-binary friends.
In 10 years, the children that have been exploited, harmed by chemicals or even mutilated with surgery will the people who put an end to this madness.
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After years of believing that he was a woman, Walt Heyer underwent "gender reassignment" surgery and spent 8 years living as a woman, "Laura." But he has since come to regret that decision.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/journey-to-manhood-a-former-transsexual-tells-his-story/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...signment-surgery-woman-transitioned-back.html

I agree that our governments are overly reactionary, and that they have implemented some changes without thinking them through. That's a separate discussion, though, and it's part of the process anytime we undergo a social transformation.

Call it a sickness all you like. Gender diversity is here to stay.
Maybe... but you still don't have the right to force people to accept lies to make others feel better. Some accommodation and recognition is one thing, forced approval is another.
 
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The Grievance Studies Affair - REVEALED​

 
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Uh-huh.. and not being able to select "X" as a sex will prevent you from buying a airplane ticket for your 21 year old child. Why would a news service even publish such contrived nonsense?



In 10 years, the children that have been exploited, harmed by chemicals or even mutilated with surgery will the people who put an end to this madness.
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After years of believing that he was a woman, Walt Heyer underwent "gender reassignment" surgery and spent 8 years living as a woman, "Laura." But he has since come to regret that decision.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/journey-to-manhood-a-former-transsexual-tells-his-story/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...signment-surgery-woman-transitioned-back.html


Maybe... but you still don't have the right to force people to accept lies to make others feel better. Some accommodation and recognition is one thing, forced approval is another.
What exactly do you mean by "forced approval"?
 
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The Grievance Studies Affair - REVEALED​

That was an interesting little experiment. Can't draw any real conclusions from it, but it definitely makes for great discussion around the political motivation of some publications to do half-assed peer reviews.

These guys focused on the social issues of the day, but the problem they highlighted is a problem in all of academia. It has no bearing on the validity of real studies, but certainly shows that even some academic journals are not immune to social and political pressures.
 
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In the forged election materials, these Trumpers literally described themselves as "the duly elected and qualified electors."

If the election materials were forged, they were clearly not "duly elected and qualified." If the police arrest someone practicing medicine with a forged medical license, would you say, "As a doctor, that person should have known better."

The point is, you are using a small picture to paint a big picture of Big Bad Trump when there is zero evidence at all connecting him to these cases.

I think you have fallen victim to the monomaniacal focus on one former president that those in power want you to have. "Look at that guy 100 yards over there who wants to pick your pocket." While they pick your pocket.

It's frustrating, because some of the worst crimes in modern history are being perpetrated, democracy is being destroyed, war and poverty lay ahead... and the people who can help stop it can only think about Trump and "getting" him. It's like we live in 17th century Salem and half the people are ignoring essential survival needs to "get those witches."
 
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Joan Didion is as relevant as ever...

I’ve had to struggle all my life against my own misapprehensions, my own false ideas, my own distorted perceptions. I’ve had to work very hard, make myself unhappy, give up ideas that made me comfortable, trying to apprehend social reality. I’ve spent my entire adult life, it seems to me, in a state of profound culture shock. I wish I were unique in this, but I’m not. You may not be afflicted with my misapprehensions, and I may not be afflicted with yours, but none of this starts “tabula rasa.” We all distort what we see. We all have to struggle to see what's really going on.

"We all distort what we see. We all have to struggle
to see what’s really going on."​


That’s the human condition, providing the human is awake and living in the world which, by the way, is not as automatic as you might think, but I’ll get to that in a minute. Some of you are going to spend the whole rest of your life in culture shock, and what I’m saying today is that I think all of you should.

I’m talking about trying not to be crippled by ideas; I’m talking about looking out, about looking out at the world and trying to see it straight, about making that effort to look out for the whole rest of your life.

....I sometimes think that the most malignant aspect of the period was the extent to which everyone dealt exclusively in symbols. Certain artifacts were understood to denote something other than themselves, something supposedly abstract; some positive or negative moral value. And whether the artifact was positively or negatively charged depended not on any objective reality at all but on where you stood, where the polarization had thrown you.

Marijuana was a symbol. Long hair was of course a symbol, and so was short hair. Natural foods were a symbol – rice, seaweed, raw milk, the whole litany. I found myself in situations during the late ‘60s where my refusal to give my baby unpasteurized milk was construed as evidence that I must be “on the other side.” Probably an undercover. In fact, it meant nothing except that I had grown up around farms and I had known children who got tuberculosis and brucellosis from drinking raw milk.

But this was a period in which everything was understood to have some moral freight, some meaning beyond itself. And in fact, nothing did; that was the peculiarity of the decade.

In a way it was very touching, this whole society so starved for meaning that it made totems out of meaningless artifacts. The whole country was like a cargo cult. But it was also very destructive. Because nothing meant what it was supposed to mean.

Of course, we’ve always lived by symbols – the human experience is symbolic. But never in my lifetime have the images of things gotten radically separated from the reality of things. You notice this particularly about language during the ‘60s.

A lot of this came out of Vietnam. Words were used peculiarly. Meanings became obscure. We heard interdiction for bombing. Armed reconnaissance for flying low in bombing. Tactical redeployment for retreat. Incursion for invasion. Termination with extreme prejudice for killing.

But it wasn’t only the government which was using language that way. I was cleaning out a file drawer the other day looking at some old notes, and I think I spent that whole decade listening to people who used language for some purpose other than communication. Black Panthers and police talked the same way. Pentacostals and Maoists talked the same way.

I spent an hour studying a sentence I’d copied down from a book by a Brazilian guerilla. Now here is the sentence: “The fact that our organization is revolutionary in character is due above all to the fact that all our activity is defined as revolutionary.”

I don’t know that that means. I can track the sentence – the sentence parses but it has no meaning at all. It’s like broken home, it’s like culture at the crossroads, it’s like ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. It is devoid of meaning.


https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2022/01/10/joan-didions-lost-commencement-address-revealed
 
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I'm all for the truth. 1.2 million non-binary people in USA alone. You can either believe the actual data, or ignore it to support your ignorance.
I'll leave the bulk of the sisyphean work to the ever-patient mr-X, but the truth is never so simple as "this researcher said that" or "that factcheck website said this." Actual data is, actually, just data. It was created by a human being of unknown motivations, using poorly defined but politically charged phrases such as "binary," using unexplained statistical methods. Depending on the definition, there could be 100 million binary people. 1.2 million is a modest one in 300 people. Think of the various idiosyncrasies you can find in 300 people. Imagine if each demanded all of society adapt and suffer so that each person could "normalize" their own. Most people don't need to - we accept that we all have certain aspects of us that fall outside the normal range of society. And that's no big deal. It used to be called an eccentricity in the UK, and generally made people more interesting.
 
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I'll leave the bulk of the sisyphean work to the ever-patient mr-X, but the truth is never so simple as "this researcher said that" or "that factcheck website said this." Actual data is, actually, just data. It was created by a human being of unknown motivations, using poorly defined but politically charged phrases such as "binary," using unexplained statistical methods. Depending on the definition, there could be 100 million binary people. 1.2 million is a modest one in 300 people. Think of the various idiosyncrasies you can find in 300 people. Imagine if each demanded all of society adapt and suffer so that each person could "normalize" their own. Most people don't need to - we accept that we all have certain aspects of us that fall outside the normal range of society. And that's no big deal. It used to be called an eccentricity in the UK, and generally made people more interesting.
So basically... don't believe data? Ultimately all it comes down to is human decency? Fair enough. I agree.
 
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