showcase Showcase -Debate - Discuss .online vs. .com

[ThatNameGuy]

Anyone reading this attend NamesCon.online? First let me say I just love the domain industry that I knew absolutely nothing about until about three years ago. Prior to 2017 all I knew about were the very traditional .com, .net, .org, ,gov and .edu extensions (the letters just right of the .Dot). While it's pretty obvious that names like .edu (education), .net (internet), .org (organization), .gov (government) how many consumers or businesses actually know what .com (???) stands for or means?

To draw a comparison (very important), i was the guest speaker at my zoom "K" (Kiwanis) meeting yesterday, and even though we were discussing two very sensitive topics, "suicide and racism" I directed us to, "how many people know what the bold "K" we proudly where on our hats, polo shirts and tee shirts stands for? Ironically, and much to the dismay of my Kiwanis brothers and sisters, very few people in the world have ever heard of Kiwanis despite having over 600,000 members in 80 different countries worldwide. As an aside, but just as important our motto is, "Serving the Children of the World"

Again this was meant to draw a comparison to how little the rest of the world (outside the domain industry) knows or even cares what's right of the .dot

I know it's incensed many of the members here, but this is a subject that should and needs to be discussed. Why? Because we're literally running out of .com's, and those that are still available are so "overpriced" very few consumers or businesses can afford them. Why is that? It basically involves the old economic theory of "Supply and Demand". However, unlike typical "supply and demand" theory, there are many alternatives to .com, one of them being .online like you saw NamesCon.online using to promote their annual convention which is virtual aka online

Despite being actively involved in the domain industry for the last three years, I never realized until recently that anything to the .right of the dot is moot. While I own over 900 .online domains that I've accumulated in the last 30 days, many of my .online domains make more sense than their "exact match" .left of the .dot. Here are a few of mine.....LetsDiscuss.online;

Whistleblower.online
QualityDomains.online
Reservations.online (serious dispute with Go Daddy and Radix over this one)
GunSafety.online
CaliforniaHomes.online

btw, you can "Discover" anything .online from Africa to Space. Anyone know where Com is

 

[Peak.Domains]

Thank you for immediately walking back your initial statement. You started with "hell to pay for this entire industry," then you walked it back to "some people might go to jail or face charges."

I believe that you made the correct decision because it's very important to be as clear as possible when you're making blanket threats online.

On topic: Here are a few names that are still available to register:

• MakingThreats.online
• PersonalInformation.online
• PrivateInformation.online

Maybe you can push your friends at the registry to introduce .offline domains, you can use them for your preferred method of communication since you don't like to communicate.online.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Already existing thread.

Moved your intro post to that thread, no charge this time or infractions.

You're a little late JB;

This thread was "Moved to Domain Extensions/ Posted in the wrong forum/Thank you for understandig" This is where we'll be discussing domain Corruption.Online

No Charge.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Thank you for immediately walking back your initial statement. You started with "hell to pay for this entire industry," then you walked it back to "some people might go to jail or face charges."

I believe that you made the correct decision because it's very important to be as clear as possible when you're making blanket threats online.

On topic: Here are a few names that are still available to register:

• MakingThreats.online
• PersonalInformation.online
• PrivateInformation.online

Maybe you can push your friends at the registry to introduce .offline domains, you can use them for your preferred method of communication since you don't like to communicate.online.

You needn't reply anymore, I already know who you are. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

 

[JB Lions]

You're a little late JB;

This thread was "Moved to Domain Extensions/ Posted in the wrong forum/Thank you for understandig" This is where we'll be discussing domain Corruption.Online

No Charge.

That's because you start all your promotion threads in the General Domain Discussion forum, so you constantly have the mods doing unnecessary work.

I know you care about the industry and your fellow domainers and want to make it easier for everybody to discuss topics and understand it's easier to have it all in one place.

The already existing .online showcase thread hasn't been posted in for awhile so you probably just missed it. No problem, I love helping out, keeping the place organized:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/dot-online-showcase.876437/page-28

 

[DomainNature]

The .com extension is not only for company but many other important words, like community, communication, compendium (see wiki), comparison etc. The list is very long with com meanings.
The .com is better in many ways than .online, the extension is not worth registering in 2 and more words only brands and dictionary words which are related to on-line or on-wire related to telephony websites, it's like saying that other domain names are not online.
Also the .biz and other extensions which i will never register domains in their extensions, they are more for end users who can't afford the .com, .net and ,org. The same goes for new gTLD's and there are only a couple of jewels worth the rest are for hand reg for end users.
Also there are pretty much allot of quality .com domains to hand reg, you only need a little bit of creativeness.
This is my own opinion.
P.s. i wish you honest good luck with .online extension hope you get success with it.

 

[Future Sensors]

The .com extension is not only for company but many other important words, like community, communication, compendium (see wiki), comparison etc. The list is very long with com meanings.

I sincerely hope that all these alternative explanations (or an explanation at all) for the .com TLD will not be necessary. Original intent was: commercial, not company.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

The .com extension is not only for company but many other important words, like community, communication, compendium (see wiki), comparison etc. The list is very long with com meanings.
The .com is better in many ways than .online, the extension is not worth registering in 2 and more words only brands and dictionary words which are related to on-line or on-wire related to telephony websites, it's like saying that other domain names are not online.
Also the .biz and other extensions which i will never register domains in their extensions, they are more for end users who can't afford the .com, .net and ,org. The same goes for new gTLD's and there are only a couple of jewels worth the rest are for hand reg for end users.
Also there are pretty much allot of quality .com domains to hand reg, you only need a little bit of creativeness.
This is my own opinion.
P.s. i wish you honest good luck with .online extension hope you get success with it.

Thanks, but I've already had success....see the thread titled GoDaddy on CNBC and try to figure out how I've already had success with it in more ways than one. If you have a hard time figuring it out send me a PM and I'll try to help. Please realize this in not an anomaly, but the reason I own Whistleblower.online. Also note that I may be appearing on CNBC where you will see me blowing my whistle

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I sincerely hope that all these alternative explanations (or an explanation at all) for the .com TLD will not be necessary. Original intent was: commercial, not company.

i just luv it Future Sensors.....very few "end users" have a clue what the "com" in .com stands for. This is the reason I just registered FocusGroup.online....you must check out FocusGroup.com to see where it leads.

When I was able to register the name "Focus Group", my 1,038th .online, I thought WOW! I could now put together a focus group to promote the .online extension, and to kick .com's sorry azz. Would you like to join our group? You might be able to help with our MissionStatement.online

 

[Future Sensors]

i just luv it Future Sensors.....very few "end users" have a clue what the "com" in .com stands for. This is the reason I just registered FocusGroup.online....you must check out FocusGroup.com to see where it leads.

When I was able to register the name "Focus Group", my 1,038th .online, I thought WOW! I could now put together a focus group to promote the .online extension, and to kick .com's sorry azz. Would you like to join our group? You might be able to help with our MissionStatement.online

Sorry, I don't have a working Internet connection at the moment, but I congratulate you with every domain that gets indexed in Google this way, you're a very clever salesman. It's not my style. I don't think it's wise to do it for every single domain. We get your point. Wish you all the best and great sales online.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Sorry, I don't have a working Internet connection at the moment, but I congratulate you with every domain that gets indexed in Google this way, you're a very clever salesman. It's not my style. I don't think it's wise to do it for every single domain. We get your point. Wish you all the best and great sales online.

Hey Domain.Coach....we know you don't like us, but we just hired a new BrandCoach.Online, a new DomainCoach.Online and for good luck, a NameCoach.Online.

Sorry if you're overwhelmed by .online, but that's our intention. Someday you'll just wake up and wonder WTF

 

[Future Sensors]

Hey Domain.Coach....we know you don't like us, but we just hired a new BrandCoach.Online, a new DomainCoach.Online and for good luck, a NameCoach.Online.

Sorry if you're overwhelmed by .online, but that's our intention. Someday you'll just wake up and wonder WTF

The fact is, I do think you're an okay guy in the offline world. Drink some good wine together, listen to your stories. But online, it's kind of annoying indeed. I notice that this thread is not an open environment for other people to participate, because it's mostly about you. Cheers.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

The fact is, I do think you're an okay guy in the offline world. Drink some good wine together, listen to your stories. But online, it's kind of annoying indeed. I notice that this thread is not an open environment for other people to participate, because it's mostly about you. Cheers.

I just luv the collusiononline....I really do occupy a piece of your minds. Do you get CNBC in the Netherlands?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I sincerely hope that all these alternative explanations (or an explanation at all) for the .com TLD will not be necessary. Original intent was: commercial, not company.

Oh thanks for MedicalSensors.Online Coach

 

[ThatNameGuy]

The fact is, I do think you're an okay guy in the offline world. Drink some good wine together, listen to your stories. But online, it's kind of annoying indeed. I notice that this thread is not an open environment for other people to participate, because it's mostly about you. Cheers.

Coach....since we're here to "Showcase", "Discuss" and "Debate" all sides of the .online vs. .com saga, here is another domain I just registered a few minutes ago;

VisionScreening.Online

Being that VisionScreening.com is already registered and is for sale/hoarded @ Go Daddy for $14,999, don't you think "Vision Screening Online" is an excellent alternative? I just happened to notice that VisionTesting,Online is available as well. Peak.Domains, what do you think of that? You seemed (past tense) to have been a fan of .online when you first showed up here, but now you're not? You were such a fan I intend to use some of your vernacular when selling .online domains to "end users". Thanks

 

[Peak.Domains]

You needn't reply anymore, I already know who you are. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Peak.Domains, what do you think of that?

Pick one.

 

[Future Sensors]

Coach....since we're here to "Showcase", "Discuss" and "Debate" all sides of the .online vs. .com saga, here is another domain I just registered a few minutes ago;

VisionScreening.Online

Let's make the best of this thread with some constructive advice, in the hope that other people will eventually dare to participate in this thread as well, and it's no longer your Online Show.

So, you're a fan of .online. There's no problem with you doing the risk-reward analysis with your own money. You follow this online strategy, you believe in it, stick to it, and in general I like people believing in things.

Elon Musk believed in things, and is now making huge sales while selling ZEV and GHG regulatory credits. $1.58B, $594M, and $419M for the years 2020, 2019, 2018 respectively. He has zero cost to produce, and it's not even his core business, or is it? I sincerely hope you're the new Elon.

Maybe you're not in domaining for the money and just like to have some nice conversations with peers online.

I sincerely hope you will sell some domains in your favorite TLD to other domainers, or to end-users. You'd be surprised, but I will be the first to congratulate you in the...

Report Completed Domain Name Sales Here
...thread.

For this particular domain you mentioned above, I'd say: Focus on better, shorter, one-word dictionary domains first. The risk-reward ratio will be much better for you.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Just testing;

Domain.Coach - 10 to 25K @Dan

or

DomainCoach.Online for 1K @ NameGuy?
or
BrandCoach.Online for 1K @ NameGuy
or
SwimCoach.Online
or
WealthCoach.online
or
LifeCoach.online

or one word, but not short; Gaslighting.online almost as good as Whistleblower.Online

 

[HotKey]

You get what you pay for. So while sure you can price ThisKeyword.Online at a tenth of This.Keyword or ThisKeyword.com, it doesn't mean it's as powerful of a domain name for a matching brand.

Though, the redundancy of the .online extension might actually be it's strength in the long run rather than it's shortcoming.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

You get what you pay for. So while sure you can price ThisKeyword.Online at a tenth of This.Keyword or ThisKeyword.com, it doesn't mean it's as powerful of a domain name for a matching brand.

Though, the redundancy of the .online extension might actually be it's strength in the long run rather than it's shortcoming.

Thanks Ben....talk about redundent, I just reg'd OnlineGroup.Online. I've been talking it up at the gym with some old farts like me, and when they're listening, some of them really like it. GD values
OnlineGroup.com@ $9,725 so it only made sense.

The last thing I'll share is that I plan on having a UsersGroup.online for anyone that buys a .online domain from me. The user group concept and idea is very familiar to me and everyone benefits. I think that too will help close more deals. Remember I don't think like a domainer, nor do I care to. I also plan to contact all the current .online users to see if they would like to join our group.

Thanks for your input.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I think the market for .online has improved with the pandemic-related push for more enterprises, even small ones, to need an .online presence.

I recently heard an interview with Frank Schilling and he made the comment that even with the many hundreds of new extensions, surprisingly few are actually generic words implying a website or online presence. I had never really thought about it, but it is true. I mean there is .online, .site, .website, .link, and a few others, but most extensions are more narrow. Club is interesting, as it sort of has pushed into that space, even though generically I would have thought the word club is more specialized.

I think the fact that .online is a Radix TLD is a plus - they have done a good job picking extensions, controlling bad actors, promoting them, etc. Of course it was used for NamesCon because Radix was a diamond sponsor, as I recall.

I would like to see more aftermarket sales and more real world use than we have at present. The other day someone said that the path to acceptance for new extensions will be slow, and it will only be for certain extensions. I think .online will be one of those, but I don't think it will suddenly get popular.

I personally continue to have a handful (about 6) of .online extension names. I like them where I can get a non-premium renewal on a single word where the match across the dot is a relatively common phrase. It is hard to find those though. My favourite is not that common an expression, joyous .online, but I like it in an era when more music, drama, etc. groups are doing online performances. I also have lawful .online that might be good either for robolaw tools, or a law firm on online case specializations, or possibly some sort of reference site.

I would not have got the huge number you did @ThatNameGuy , but I hope you sell enough that it works out for you.

Bob

 

[Brands.International]

@ThatNameGuy and @Bob Hawkes

Rich and Bob, just a quick question in case you know (sorry I have not read the whole thread, maybe someone already mentioned it) - what is the most favourable registrar atm to renew .online? PM me pls if you do not want to do public promotion. I have few .online domain names, and will transfer in case the renewal fee is favourable.

Thank you so much

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I think the market for .online has improved with the pandemic-related push for more enterprises, even small ones, to need an .online presence.

I recently heard an interview with Frank Schilling and he made the comment that even with the many hundreds of new extensions, surprisingly few are actually generic words implying a website or online presence. I had never really thought about it, but it is true. I mean there is .online, .site, .website, .link, and a few others, but most extensions are more narrow. Club is interesting, as it sort of has pushed into that space, even though generically I would have thought the word club is more specialized.

I think the fact that .online is a Radix TLD is a plus - they have done a good job picking extensions, controlling bad actors, promoting them, etc. Of course it was used for NamesCon because Radix was a diamond sponsor, as I recall.

I would like to see more aftermarket sales and more real world use than we have at present. The other day someone said that the path to acceptance for new extensions will be slow, and it will only be for certain extensions. I think .online will be one of those, but I don't think it will suddenly get popular.

I personally continue to have a handful (about 6) of .online extension names. I like them where I can get a non-premium renewal on a single word where the match across the dot is a relatively common phrase. It is hard to find those though. My favourite is not that common an expression, joyous .online, but I like it in an era when more music, drama, etc. groups are doing online performances. I also have lawful .online that might be good either for robolaw tools, or a law firm on online case specializations, or possibly some sort of reference site.

I would not have got the huge number you did @ThatNameGuy , but I hope you sell enough that it works out for you.

Bob

I think the market for .online has improved with the pandemic-related push for more enterprises, even small ones, to need an .online presence.

I recently heard an interview with Frank Schilling and he made the comment that even with the many hundreds of new extensions, surprisingly few are actually generic words implying a website or online presence. I had never really thought about it, but it is true. I mean there is .online, .site, .website, .link, and a few others, but most extensions are more narrow. Club is interesting, as it sort of has pushed into that space, even though generically I would have thought the word club is more specialized.

I think the fact that .online is a Radix TLD is a plus - they have done a good job picking extensions, controlling bad actors, promoting them, etc. Of course it was used for NamesCon because Radix was a diamond sponsor, as I recall.

I would like to see more aftermarket sales and more real world use than we have at present. The other day someone said that the path to acceptance for new extensions will be slow, and it will only be for certain extensions. I think .online will be one of those, but I don't think it will suddenly get popular.

I personally continue to have a handful (about 6) of .online extension names. I like them where I can get a non-premium renewal on a single word where the match across the dot is a relatively common phrase. It is hard to find those though. My favourite is not that common an expression, joyous .online, but I like it in an era when more music, drama, etc. groups are doing online performances. I also have lawful .online that might be good either for robolaw tools, or a law firm on online case specializations, or possibly some sort of reference site.

I would not have got the huge number you did @ThatNameGuy , but I hope you sell enough that it works out for you.

Bob

Thanks for that Bob .Online is now the 3rd largest nTLD in the world behind .xyz and icu. I understand xyz being up there, but for the life of me I don't understand .icu It wasn't until a month ago that I learned icu stood for "i see you", but even that doesn't make sense to me. Prior to that I thought it meant "Intensive care unit", and i bet there are some experienced domainers who just heard this for the first time.

I know everyone thinks I'm the crazyguy,online, but if the shoe fits. It's funny, when keying this response to you I honestly didn't know if "Crazy Guy Online" was available as a domain, but i checked, it was, and now I own it. But not before checking if CrazyGuy.com was registered. Guess what?... it is registered at GD, it's valued at $2,907 and whoever owns it (probably GD or Uniregistry themselves) is asking $4,500 for it. So what's a guy like me to do who has a dollar burning a hole in his pocket.

Bob, I own 1,178 + 1 .online domains as of a few minutes ago, and I would say crazyguy.online is typical of the domains I own, with half being better, and half being....well the other half. I'll be watching TV, listening to the radio, working out at the gym and invariably hear someone say a two word combination, or sometimes even one word and i'll get to a computer or my cell phone to see if it's available.

Even though I've spent just a little over a thousand dollars accumulating .online domains, their .com equivalents (exact match left of the dot) are valued at somewhere between five and ten million dollars at Go Daddy. Bob, you can trust me to use this sort of information whether selling .online domains either offline or online. Were you aware that over 90% of "end users" don't know that what is right of the dot is really insignificant in the big scheme of things. Someone here used the analogy that .online was like driving a "Pinto" from back in the 60's to driving a .com or Ferrari today. When in reality, they're both very similar forms of transportation that will take you wherever you want to go.

The last thing I'll share, when I was last checking to see how many single word domains I own I saw I own the domain HomeArama.online. I believe it was about 10 days ago, i thought I would check to see if it was available and it wasn't Even before the internet, a custom home show called Homearama drew tens of thousands of potential home buyers every year. It's a local company who owns Homes.com so when I find some time I need talk with them Maybe they'll want to replace Homes.com with HomeArama.online.

That's all Bob....thanks again for chiming in.



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[ThatNameGuy]

@ThatNameGuy and @Bob Hawkes

Rich and Bob, just a quick question in case you know (sorry I have not read the whole thread, maybe someone already mentioned it) - what is the most favourable registrar atm to renew .online? PM me pls if you do not want to do public promotion. I have few .online domain names, and will transfer in case the renewal fee is favourable.

Thank you so much

Marek...how the heck are ya? I haven't seen you around for a while....before I ramble OT, between my response to Bob a few minutes ago I registered another two .online domains;

MakingUp.online
and
BreakingUp.online

What do you think....be honest

As for the best place to rereg .online's I really don't know. However, with as many .online names that I own, if I'm successful, registrars will be clambering for my business.....i wish. Right now I'm budgeting for about a $15 to $20 renewal maybe for 50% of my domains. That would be around $10,000, but if I'm selling .Online domains and yes .Realty domains like I plan, it won't be a problem. Maybe my friends with .online domains could piggy back with me. Good Luck Marek.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Rich and Bob, just a quick question in case you know (sorry I have not read the whole thread, maybe someone already mentioned it) - what is the most favourable registrar atm to renew .online?

I sent a private message with details at a few registrars, but none of the renewals that great (looks like most about $25 with 1 at about $20). If anyone is hand registering, be sure to check if your registrar has a deal on 2 yr, as that is often much cheaper than discounted first year + 1 renewal.
Bob

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I sent a private message with details at a few registrars, but none of the renewals that great (looks like most about $25 with 1 at about $20). If anyone is hand registering, be sure to check if your registrar has a deal on 2 yr, as that is often much cheaper than discounted first year + 1 renewal.
Bob

Again thanks for your input Bob. As a byproduct of my registering hundreds + of .online domains, I'm gathering some interesting information about .com domains that are not in use, but are just sitting out there for sale for mega bucks by GD, and now their new partner Uniregistery.

Here's an example, I registered about a dozen more .online domains this morning all starting with "Mr" like MrRealty.online, MrCash.online MrTravel.online, and the last one I reg'd was MrPresident.Online.

Now here's what you'll find, simply go to MrPresident.com. To emphasize my point, GD and now Uniregistry control much of the aftermarket, especially in the .com world

Bottom line I'm sure Go Daddy won't want me to succeed with .Online for obvious reasons. And there a lot of people who have targeted me for the same reasons. Anyway I'll be talking with one of the industry leaders this afternoon about all the inequality, and I'll be in touch because I feel I can trust you. Thanks again.