discuss Thank you Radix, NamesCon(.)Online and NamePros

[ThatNameGuy]

Anyone here go to the NamesCon Online conference? While I didn't, I plan to go later because it was virtually online. So why would I be thanking Radix? Because Radix is the registry behind the extension .online.

Here is what the good folks at NamesCon said about Radix;

"The Right Extension for the Right Message"

NamesCon also said this;

"the .online extension remains a total no-brainer for us! We love .online because it both conveys and strengthens our message: it’s easy to remember, simple to share, and powerful in its storytelling. This is what a domain name is supposed to do, after all.

So thank you again, Radix, for helping us smoothly transition NamesCon from offline to .online!"

While nothing is in concrete, I'm looking to partner in some capacity with the fastest growing new gTLD in the world. I see .online as serious competition for the millions of .com domains hiding in the wine cellar just collecting dust because the average business consumer just can't afford them. Someone, not me, but I agree there are literally BILLIONS of dollars of perfectly good domains in the cellar that an even better extension is ready to replace.

Finally I want to thank NamePros for giving me a voice and letting me share my opinions with thousands of domainers the world over.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

So is it purely the number of domains owned by an entity or person that makes them hoarders? What's the cut-off?

Sorry I didn't get back to you Joe, but the wife and I were at the First Watch Cafe that goes by FirstWatch.com. I didn't know this, but did you know they have over 6,000 employees. I was telling the manager there that ironically I owned a similar domain FirstWatch.online that I purchased for a retired Navy Captain and friend of mine for a technical startup. First Watch is actually a military term that could be used for all sorts of things like a tech company or maybe a private security company. Don't you know that GD values FirstWatch.com at $9,587........that's pretty cool I wonder if First Watch Cafe might want it for ordering fine food online

 

[Future Sensors]

The great advantage of this whole thread, is that all these company names mentioned will be found in (online) serps very soon. Good luck.

 

[Joe N]

Sorry I didn't get back to you Joe, but the wife and I were at the First Watch Cafe that goes by FirstWatch.com. I didn't know this, but did you know they have over 6,000 employees. I was telling the manager there that ironically I owned a similar domain FirstWatch.online that I purchased for a retired Navy Captain and friend of mine for a technical startup. First Watch is actually a military term that could be used for all sorts of things like a tech company or maybe a private security company. Don't you know that GD values FirstWatch.com at $9,587........that's pretty cool I wonder if First Watch Cafe might want it for ordering fine food online

No problem. I'm still anxious to learn when someone crosses the line from investor to hoarder. With your 700 .online names, you may have one of the largest .online portfolios in existence. Would that make you a .online hoarder?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

The great advantage of this whole thread, is that all these company names mentioned will be found in (online) serps very soon. Good luck.

What's a serp? Something to do with a snake?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

No problem. I'm still anxious to learn when someone crosses the line from investor to hoarder. With your 700 .online names, you may have one of the largest .online portfolios in existence. Would that make you a .online hoarder?

I don't know, but like Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said about pornography, "I'm not sure what it is, but I know it when I see it" You should read the case I was referring to Joe....hoarding to me is similar to pornography I just know it when i see it

 

[bmugford]

No problem. I'm still anxious to learn when someone crosses the line from investor to hoarder. With your 700 .online names, you may have one of the largest .online portfolios in existence. Would that make you a .online hoarder?

It seems like the definition is when other people own many domains for resale, that is "hoarding".

When Bulloney owns many domains for resale, that is not "hoarding".

When a registry itself like Radix is holding thousands of domains demanding premium prices, that is also not "hoarding".

Makes sense.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

I don't know, but like Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said about pornography, "I'm not sure what it is, but I know it when I see it" You should read the case I was referring to Joe....hoarding to me is similar to pornography I just know it when i see it

As I'm sure you know, Potter was actually referring to hardcore pornography, not just pornography, and his statement was widely criticized for not providing clear guidance on what should be considered obscene material (which could be followed by lower level courts).

As a result, the Miller Test was devised almost ten years later. It acknowledged that there was some subjectivity in the decision of what is deemed to be obscene, but it provided a clear set of guidelines to help make that determination.

So, seeing as how your "Potter reasoning" is patently flawed (according to the US supreme court), maybe it would be prudent to develop your own clear guidelines on when a person or entity is a domain hoarder. That way you'll know decisively when someone is guilty of it, and will be able to demonstrate it clearly to others.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

As I'm sure you know, Potter was actually referring to hardcore pornography, not just pornography, and his statement was widely criticized for not providing clear guidance on what should be considered obscene material (which could be followed by lower level courts).

As a result, the Miller Test was devised almost ten years later. It acknowledged that there was some subjectivity in the decision of what is deemed to be obscene, but it provided a clear set of guidelines to help make that determination.

So, seeing as how your "Potter reasoning" is patently flawed (according to the US supreme court), maybe it would be prudent to develop your own clear guidelines on when a person or entity is a domain hoarder. That way you'll know decisively when someone is guilty of it, and will be able to demonstrate it clearly to others.

Actually when I'm selling domains to "end users" I'm already planning to use the .com pornography analogy to help sell .online. Thanks for the idea Joe

 

[Joe N]

Actually when I'm selling domains to "end users" I'm already planning to use the .com pornography analogy to help sell .online. Thanks for the idea Joe

How would that work exactly?

 

[bmugford]

Actually when I'm selling domains to "end users" I'm already planning to use the .com pornography analogy to help sell .online. Thanks for the idea Joe

That sounds like a real winner. I am sure end users are really going to love discussing pornography when considering buying a domain.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Joe, all you get is a word salad response. No answer to your actual question.
It is a complete non sequitur.

Why am I not surprised?

Brad

 

[Joe N]

Joe, all you get is a word salad response. No answer to your actual question.
It is a complete non sequitur.

Why am I not surprised?

Brad

Yeah, that was kind of out of left field, and nothing to do with this issue of domain hoarding or .online...

@ThatNameGuy - I can't apologize for something I didn't do. For some reason you're determined to take maximum offense from anyone who questions your opinions or your way of saying/doing things.

I remember the discussion in question. If you'll read over it again, you'll see that I didn't insinuate anything. Your statement reminded me of an article I had read after Donald Trump made almost the exact same statement about himself, and I thought I'd share that perspective. It's not right or wrong, just a different way of seeing things. Sometimes we can all benefit from seeing things in a new light... even the least racist person in the world.

 

[Peak.Domains]

As someone who works very closely with some of the top domain hoarders in the industry, I know firsthand that they have some very grave concerns about things that are being alluded to in this thread. They're afraid, and that's saying a lot, because these are the types of people who aren't afraid of anything or anyone. I've never seen it before, I've never seen them so... unsure what to do. I was listening to an emergency call with the CEO of a massive domain company the other day, you've heard of them, and I think they may want to acquire the Whistleblower.xxxxxx domain name to ensure that their secrets don't get out. OP might already know this if he's been paying attention to his traffic logs. I'm not supposed to be talking about this, but there were a lot of... let's say... "concerned investors" in the call. They're here now, too. Hi guys and gals! The general consensuses was that if they can acquire the Whistleblower.xxxxxx domain name, there would be no other alliterative venue or equivalent domain to use to get this information out that would carry the same authority, since this domain name is such a perfectfit.online, so they want to buy the domain name to stop this whole operation in its tracks before the momentum grows and shifts and starts to hurt their bottom line more than it already has. But make no mistake, these people care about a lot more than just their bottom line. You get the idea if you're paying attention. They thought they could control the flow of information.online but an innovative mind has caught them off guard. They never thought it would get to this level. They truly weren't ready. Honestly, I hope that you go forward with whistleblower.xxxxxx because these guys can't keep getting away with what they're doing. I'm not sure if anyone has already reached out to OP or not so I can't comment on this but if this project never ends up launching, we'll all know that somehow they got through to him. If the domain changes hands, we'll know OP took a payoff. I wouldn't blame him. I wouldn't be brave enough to go up against these forces.online, the ones who controlthings.online. I have to be completely honest withyou.online, I'm not sure if OP is a genius for talking about this project in public before it's ready to launch, or if he's a fool - but it doesn't matter as long as the outcome is the same. Isn't that how most geniuses and innovators are treated.online, anyways? I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't want to chime in at all but if op is willing to takeachance.online, then this is the least that I can do. I don't know why OP would talk about this so early in the process, to be honest, that's still a puzzle to me. Why warn them? Unless he's giving them a chance to change their ways. Maybe they will clean up their acts on their own, knowing the threat that is bubbling below the surface. Or maybe OP just doesn't care and wants to do what's right for this industry and is just completely fearless.online. I know I'm not the only one who is confused about this but I'm trying to study and understand instead of some people who just want to spout off and defend the statusquo.online, they're carrying water for the hoarders and they don't even realize it. Or maybe they do realize, and they themselves are a part of the hoarder-class? Why else would they be so concerned with having a definition for something that everyone can just feel? Why do we need to define feelings.online? For what purpose.online would that serve? Either way, there's somethinghappening.online and if the chatter I'm hearing from the very top is any indication, it's going to be very big. Unless OP decides to take the money and run, in which case we'll probably never hear anything about this ever again. The whistle goes back into the pocket, and the hoarders continue to crush small businesses for fun. That's the canary in the coalmine.online. I truly believe that whistleblower.xxxxxx might be the only opportunity to tell the truth - isn't that what the internet was created for? Isn't that why we're.... dare I say it... .online? We can all see the pushback in this thread. We don't believe that's all organic, do we? Who is giving the marching orders? I guess time will tell. It takes a brave man to stand up for what he believes.online.

 

[Future Sensors]

[...] Who is giving the marching orders? I guess time will tell. It takes a brave man to stand up for what he believes.online.

Amen.

Well said @Peak.Domains

You inspired me to order this valuable asset called Letsforget in the Online TLD.
It will secure the future of me and my family. Thanks!

 

[bmugford]

As someone who works very closely with some of the top domain hoarders in the industry, I know firsthand that they have some very grave concerns about things that are being alluded to in this thread. They're afraid, and that's saying a lot, because these are the types of people who aren't afraid of anything or anyone. I've never seen it before, I've never seen them so... unsure what to do. I was listening to an emergency call with the CEO of a massive domain company the other day, you've heard of them, and I think they may want to acquire the Whistleblower.xxxxxx domain name to ensure that their secrets don't get out. OP might already know this if he's been paying attention to his traffic logs. I'm not supposed to be talking about this, but there were a lot of... let's say... "concerned investors" in the call. They're here now, too. Hi guys and gals! The general consensuses was that if they can acquire the Whistleblower.xxxxxx domain name, there would be no other alliterative venue or equivalent domain to use to get this information out that would carry the same authority, since this domain name is such a perfectfit.online, so they want to buy the domain name to stop this whole operation in its tracks before the momentum grows and shifts and starts to hurt their bottom line more than it already has. But make no mistake, these people care about a lot more than just their bottom line. You get the idea if you're paying attention. They thought they could control the flow of information.online but an innovative mind has caught them off guard. They never thought it would get to this level. They truly weren't ready. Honestly, I hope that you go forward with whistleblower.xxxxxx because these guys can't keep getting away with what they're doing. I'm not sure if anyone has already reached out to OP or not so I can't comment on this but if this project never ends up launching, we'll all know that somehow they got through to him. If the domain changes hands, we'll know OP took a payoff. I wouldn't blame him. I wouldn't be brave enough to go up against these forces.online, the ones who controlthings.online. I have to be completely honest withyou.online, I'm not sure if OP is a genius for talking about this project in public before it's ready to launch, or if he's a fool - but it doesn't matter as long as the outcome is the same. Isn't that how most geniuses and innovators are treated.online, anyways? I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't want to chime in at all but if op is willing to takeachance.online, then this is the least that I can do. I don't know why OP would talk about this so early in the process, to be honest, that's still a puzzle to me. Why warn them? Unless he's giving them a chance to change their ways. Maybe they will clean up their acts on their own, knowing the threat that is bubbling below the surface. Or maybe OP just doesn't care and wants to do what's right for this industry and is just completely fearless.online. I know I'm not the only one who is confused about this but I'm trying to study and understand instead of some people who just want to spout off and defend the statusquo.online, they're carrying water for the hoarders and they don't even realize it. Or maybe they do realize, and they themselves are a part of the hoarder-class? Why else would they be so concerned with having a definition for something that everyone can just feel? Why do we need to define feelings.online? For what purpose.online would that serve? Either way, there's somethinghappening.online and if the chatter I'm hearing from the very top is any indication, it's going to be very big. Unless OP decides to take the money and run, in which case we'll probably never hear anything about this ever again. The whistle goes back into the pocket, and the hoarders continue to crush small businesses for fun. That's the canary in the coalmine.online. I truly believe that whistleblower.xxxxxx might be the only opportunity to tell the truth - isn't that what the internet was created for? Isn't that why we're.... dare I say it... .online? We can all see the pushback in this thread. We don't believe that's all organic, do we? Who is giving the marching orders? I guess time will tell. It takes a brave man to stand up for what he believes.online.

Yeah, I think we are all just so scared of Bulloney's innovation.

If he can crack the code to selling terrible domains in .online, what are all the people holding quality .COM domains going to do?

It looks like I might have to start looking for a new career.

Brad

 

[Peak.Domains]

@Future Sensors I'm not qualified to offer financial advice but I recommend waiting and seeing if OP follows through with whistleblower.xxxxxx before making any purchases. It will determine the value of this, and indeed many other extensions. If OP decides to accept the offer (bribe) to keep quiet, I think we'll all know to steer clear.

 

[maurixius]

I dont see a bright future for .online to be honest; its just a hype for them to milk us. You register for example taste.online; what do you do when taste.on or etc gets released. Thank you but I stick with the KING which is .com and is known globally. That being said I do have a few newer extensions which make sense unlike .online.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Amen.

Well said @Peak.Domains

You inspired me to order this valuable asset called Letsforget in the Online TLD.
It will secure the future of me and my family. Thanks!

Hey there Future Sensors....i wasn't going to respond to your, mine and our best new friend Peak.Domains so I thought I might respond to you since you were the first one to respond to his 720 word post that could have been said in a hundred words or less. First, while I no longer get the local newspaper in my area after getting it for almost 50 years, this was the headline on June 12th just 6 days following the deadly violence that occurred in my Nations Capital. You see, I feel an attachment to the "District of Columbia" because that's how it reads on my "Certificate of Birth Registration" October 20th, 1947. That's a date recorded in epiphany for I was born on Mickey Mantles birthday, and me and Mickey will meet some day.

‘Go there ready for war’: FBI’s Norfolk office sent warning ahead of Capitol violence, report says
By Katherine Hafner
THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT |
JAN 12, 2021 AT 2:11 PM

While I think I may know who our mystery guest is, I'm to invite the new local head of our FBI office to Zoom into one of our meetings in the next 30 days, and I'll actually be talking on the subject of "Racism" in America this Thursday in case anyone would like join us. You can get my contact information from my info page here on NP.

Usually I take things like this pretty lightly, but because I have a pretty close connection to law enforcement, I've copied our friends suspicious post to give tomorrow to my local office of the FBI. I've copied it and forwarded to good friend in the Virginia Beach Police Department.

Finally, and since his post was so involved with the .online extension, I was able to register DeepState.online that in the .com, "if" it were available is valued at $11,000. It's now listed at DAN, and I just requested through my account at DAN just how much the owner is asking for it? Also, our mystery guests domain Peak.Domains is actually listed at Top.Domains and while I haven't had a chance to track them down, I will And just one final note, in an abundance of caution this information will also be going to the FBI with a copy of this entire thread.

GodBlessUsAll.online

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I dont see a bright future for .online to be honest; its just a hype for them to milk us. You register for example taste.online; what do you do when taste.on or etc gets released. Thank you but I stick with the KING which is .com and is known globally. That being said I do have a few newer extensions which make sense unlike .online.

Funny....Reservatons Online doesn't make sense to you? How about Online Reservations? Where do you make your reservations @ Com

 

[Future Sensors]

Funny....Reservatons Online doesn't make sense to you? How about Online Reservations? Where do you make your reservations @ Com

That's actually a brilliant question. Would I go to a site Reservation.com to make any reservation, at all.

 

[Peak.Domains]

I'm on your side. I think the truth needs to get out there, and I think you're the man to blow the whistle. You've already proven yourself more than capable.

Here's something that needs to be considered with the .online extension that some people are forgetting.

Imagine if it was possible to ask a question and have every single person give the same answer. No matter who they are, no matter what they do, no matter their age, no matter if they have $1 in the bank or $50 million. What if they could ALL be united by one common answer? TNG understands this, he knows the answer already, and he's spent 8 pages trying to explain it to people who don't want to understand the lesson.

That question is: Where are you right now?

The answer is: Online.

"Com" doesn't unite people the way online does. Who even knows what "com" means? If you have to explain it, it's not self-explanatory, and that's a problem. Everybody knows what online means.

Com is divisive and that's not what this world needs right now or ever. There are com's for poor people that are very long with misspellings or numbers added to the end, but you have to be very wealthy to afford the best .coms. There's .com's that have been hoarded for decades by older people simply because they got there first, coms that younger entrepreneurs will never have a chance to own. Com discriminates by class, by age, etc. Online is accessible to everyone, just like it should be. Don't even get me started on the ccTLD's that discriminate based on geographic location.

Online is for everyone.

Where are you right now?

You're .online.

 

[Joe N]

And just one final note, in an abundance of caution this information will also be going to the FBI with a copy of this entire thread.

That's the right move, Rich. This is definitely an issue the FBI is going to want to look into.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

That's actually a brilliant question. Would I go to a site Reservation.com to make any reservation, at all.

So what do you think about

That's actually a brilliant question. Would I go to a site Reservation.com to make any reservation, at all.

So what do you think about Bankrates.online? Makes as much sense and is sounds just as good as Reservations.online. Also picked up LoanRates

I'm sure glad we're pulling the FBI into all this mess. Now I need to get the FTC involved.....good for everyone.

 

[Peak.Domains]

You'll notice by the reactions to my latest post that "the haters" ("the hoarders"?) are finally starting to understand. This is why innovators (you, rare) sometimes need a little help from salesmen (dime a dozen) to craft their message.

At least they're trying to understand now.

They're listening.

I think they'll get there, just give them time.

It takes me a few days to get used to a new brand of coffee, so an entire paradigm shift in the industry will take them a while.

Be patient with them.

They'll need to see "sales data" and other superfluous relics of the old guard.

Imagine being the first person to discover a diamond mine, and excitedly running to tell the rest of your village...

But instead of sharing your excitement, they start asking questions like, "Okay but how many of these have sold in the past?"

Well, not a lot, because we're on the cutting edge.

It's lonely when you're on the cutting edge, but it's better than being on the cutting room floor with the rest of yesterday's extensions.

Such is the price of innovation.

You're blazing the path, and you already know that in a few months or years everyone will be following the path you created, thanklessly.

They'll get their "sales data" or "proof that anyone at all wants to use this extension", but by then, it might be too late for them to take advantage.

Can't say you didn't give them a heads up, though! You could have kept all of this to yourself, but you didn't, and has anyone even thanked you?

 

[bmugford]

That's the right move, Rich. This is definitely an issue the FBI is going to want to look into.

For sure. I would say with all the issues going on in the world with the pandemic, economy, healthcare, climate change, etc. surely the hoarding of domains has to be at the top of the list.

First Bulloney solved world hunger with his Gourmet Olympics domain, now this....what a guy!

https://www.namepros.com/threads/can-an-8-47-domain-absolve-world-hunger-and-malnutrition.1164212/

Brad