Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[wizard]

I think that Undeveloped.com is too... Undeveloped at this moment There is not too much serious offers/propositions at this platform. But as a design it looks very nice, so Undeveloped could be much more nice in future and become serious domain selling platform.

Do u have any domains with them if so how many ?

The platform is fine and they do have big sales happen its just a few things that could be changed.

 

[GenericDomainz]

Do u have any domains with them if so how many ?

The platform is fine and they do have big sales happen its just a few things that could be changed.

Yes, I have some domains. Undeveloped has very good and friendly usability, that's good, but it's not so serious for big sales as Sedo.

 

[wizard]

Yes, I have some domains. Undeveloped has very good and friendly usability, that's good, but it's not so serious for big sales as Sedo.

undeveloped have big sales lots are private sedo might have more but that has nothing to do with the platform as you havent mentioned the amount of domains you have on there then i dont think you have many we have had great results using undeveloped far more than we did with sedo.

 

[alcy]

Yes, I have some domains. Undeveloped has very good and friendly usability, that's good, but it's not so serious for big sales as Sedo.

its not about serious or not... gd auctions and sedo have longtrack record and many users... so many people go to gd auctions or sedo just to browse auctions... whereas at undeveloped very few people go to the market and browse through there.. at least its nowhere close to sedo or gd in terms of numbers.

so we have to make important distinction:

using undeveloped for typein trafic sale lander.. vs undeveloped market for sales.

if you rely on the latter, then you will more thna likely have zero sales... if you rely on it for former... then undeveloped lander and then sale process (for both seller and buyer) are probably way better/developed than some fairly simplistic sedo lander or gd auctions lander.. that are both stuck in same place for years.. no renting, no leasing, no installements etc.. and zero innovations.

imo

 

[DAN.COM]

Hi thanks, that is helpful info. Could you copy that to us or at least share the contents or points made, for example in a seller-only section of the site? It really helps to know where the buyer is coming from and what they have been told. Are there other stock messages we might like to know about?

At Uniregistry/DomainNameSales you can see all the broker messages to the client so you really do know what is going on.

By contrast, at Sedo you are very in dark - messaging clients at Undeveloped is way better.

Hi Carob,

Thanks for the feedback. I've made a note of it.

The copy of that email has changed 5 times this year alone and will be prone to changes as we keep evolving.

I would simply advise to go through the process yourself if you're curious about the flow. Just inform your escrow agent timely that the transaction is a test transaction.

Kind regards,

Reza

 

[Andish]

I have just closed my 5th sale on Undeveloped in 9 months, portfolio of 600 domains. The quality and speed of their service is unmatched. They outclass sedo, godaddy and afternic by far. Good job Reza @Undeveloped !

I would only wish to have an option of payout to Payoneer. Is that possible?

 

[Recons.Com]

I have just closed my 5th sale on Undeveloped in 9 months, portfolio of 600 domains. The quality and speed of their service is unmatched. They outclass sedo, godaddy and afternic by far. Good job Reza @Undeveloped !

I would only wish to have an option of payout to Payoneer. Is that possible?

thanks for providing stats. Would you care to elaborate if the sales were bin or make offer and if they were in xxx or xxxx in average.

For me it makes big difference when considering a platform. So far, I have received very small offers on undeveloped, while on Afternic even starting offers seem to be considerably higher and often the names close on bin prices with no negotiation.

 

[davidc1]

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thanks for providing stats. Would you care to elaborate if the sales were bin or make offer and if they were in xxx or xxxx in average.

For me it makes big difference when considering a platform. So far, I have received very small offers on undeveloped, while on Afternic even starting offers seem to be considerably higher and often the names close on bin prices with no negotiation.

can you please share your datas for undev and afternic, it seems the same here.

 

[carob]

Hi there was a discussion a few pages back about Undev publishing sales figures or not - they don't want to unless it is agreed to as I recall, which makes complete sense to me.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/new-namesilo-marketplace.892413/page-14#post-6238997

Hi Carob,

I personally want to share all sales but the last time we did it at DNJournal we got so many negative responses from sellers that we stopped doing it. In the future, we'll make it an opt-in to share your sales so we could start publishing sales from sellers that give us their approval to share their sales.

However, the problem here is that it might look as if we don't sell many names simply because not all sellers, in that case, will publish their sales. So that could turn into negative advertising for the company.

In terms of sales volume we're now selling significantly more than Namejet and are getting close to sell as much as Uniregistry does.

Kind regards,
Reza

Would it be possible to publish sales volumes and what price bands domains sell in?

Namesilo did that here: https://www.namepros.com/threads/new-namesilo-marketplace.892413/page-14#post-6238997 - I think there was another post showing which price bands sales fell into.

Sedo say 80% of their sales are private but used to have quarterly reports showing average sales price, volume, extension etc like this for example: https://techcrunch.com/2010/05/04/sedo-domain-name-sales/

 

[singhhooda]

I have just closed my 5th sale on Undeveloped in 9 months, portfolio of 600 domains. The quality and speed of their service is unmatched. They outclass sedo, godaddy and afternic by far. Good job Reza @Undeveloped !

I would only wish to have an option of payout to Payoneer. Is that possible?

Yes, I use Payoneer bank account.

Just make sure you add EUR bank account details provided by payoneer at Undeveloped.

They don't provide ACH with Payoneer accounts so we can't get payout via Payoneer's USD account.

After the sale, smply ask them to release payout in EUR so the payment gets loaded into your Payoneer's account.

 

[Andish]

@Recons.Com all 5 sales were BIN, price range was USD 1200 to 2500

 

[imadoer]

That's your opinion which is fine. We disagree here because I already gave you an option to relist and cancel your transactions.

You say:

"Not being to fully cancel a transaction is weak" - I'm not sure if I follow this one. If we cancel a transaction, the sale is gone permanently. Canceling too early is data proven a bad move as you turn the chance of a successful sale into zero chance of a successful sale.

"Sending payment reminders to someone that wont pay is weak" - I don't think so. That's how you convert a non-payer into a successful buyer. Not sending reminders and outright canceling each sale after 24 hours will cost you a lot of money as a seller. Some sellers might come back, many will have moved on and chosen another domain.

It is weak. Silence works better then begging for money! I've had dozens of non payers and you have non converted one into a payer. If a buyer is serious they will pay some times they may need a nudge but in the world of selling domains this is like a cat and mouse game. I dont want to be the mouse. But you force me to. That's not how I want to handle my sales and all I ask is for a option. Why cant you give it as a option! You are still keeping the deals open and I also seen in another post you saying you dont have a non payer problem yes you do! It's not just talk I am not the only member who has this problem I just am one who has the balls to stand up and fight for what we need

 

[legendarynames]

It is weak. Silence works better then begging for money! I've had dozens of non payers and you have non converted one into a payer. If a buyer is serious they will pay some times they may need a nudge but in the world of selling domains this is like a cat and mouse game. I dont want to be the mouse. But you force me to. That's not how I want to handle my sales and all I ask is for a option. Why cant you give it as a option! You are still keeping the deals open and I also seen in another post you saying you dont have a non payer problem yes you do! It's not just talk I am not the only member who has this problem I just am one who has the balls to stand up and fight for what we need

At the end of the day, we all have our preferences of how we wish our perfect marketplace was. It's impossible to please everybody and the fact that Reza is here every day listening and giving feedback doesn't mean he agrees with your view, or even if he does, that he'll allocate scarce development resources to implement something he doesn't perceive as crucial.

It's about the time to drop the topic and move on to another marketplace if you think there's a "serious non payer issue going on at Undeveloped". In my opinion, there's none (it's my opinion only). Would I enjoy if there was an outright cancel button? Probably yes, but that really doesn't make much of a difference as other things such as rentals and fast transactions.

 

[imadoer]

At the end of the day, we all have our preferences of how we wish our perfect marketplace was. It's impossible to please everybody and the fact that Reza is here every day listening and giving feedback doesn't mean he agrees with your view, or even if he does, that he'll allocate scarce development resources to implement something he doesn't perceive as crucial.

It's about the time to drop the topic and move on to another marketplace if you think there's a "serious non payer issue going on at Undeveloped". In my opinion, there's none (it's my opinion only). Would I enjoy if there was an outright cancel button? Probably yes, but that really doesn't make much of a difference as other things such as rentals and fast transactions.

because hes not the seller getting stiffed. Wait until it starts becoming a problem for you. Then it will become important! Eventually others will rise up and say something. But nothing will be done

 

[carob]

I've had dozens of non payers...

How many domains do you have listed there?

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Pretty simple fix would be to add a cancel negotiations button. Hopefully people wouldn't have to use it.

A question, is it possible to turn off notification by email when i add or delete names from the system.
Kind of annoying to get a bunch of emails saying upload/download complete.

I also searched " canna" at undeveloped. What a ugly list of names comes up.
Not listed in order of quality, and first .com was way down the list
Cannabis.xyz shows first, so rosener is whinner there

 

[imadoer]

How many domains do you have listed there?

1200

 

[davidc1]

How many domains do you have listed there?

i also have dozens, but i never considered the sale is done before the payment is received.
And now i dont care, i'm in bin only

 

[golan]

A question, is it possible to turn off notification by email when i add or delete names from the system.
Kind of annoying to get a bunch of emails saying upload/download complete.

Delete - yes, but add - i don't think it's wise to turn it off. With every bunch added, i have a few "failed", which means i need to email Undev asking to check them. Most of the times those are previously listed domains, but who knows what ever reason might it be.

 

[alcy]

Delete - yes, but add - i don't think it's wise to turn it off. With every bunch added, i have a few "failed", which means i need to email Undev asking to check them. Most of the times those are previously listed domains, but who knows what ever reason might it be.

yes... its nice to have those emails around.. but really.. in the end all that counts if the failed ones which you need re-added. and yes, I do believe those are jjust old owners account names. no more and no less.

cheers

 

[JB Lions]

For those using Google Analytics, what default url are you using under Property Settings. I've tried:

undeveloped.com/domain-seller/my seller name

one of the domains I have there, something.com type of deal

Tried each for a few days.

Under reports, I'm not getting the pages, they're all lumped under /

Thanks.

 

[Fancy.domains]

Personally, I only have good things to say about Undeveloped.com (at least so far):

- Really reasonable commission
- Excellent landing pages (I am using my own, but if not, I would use them)
- Fast support
- It's really easy and quick to add and remove names
- User friendly interface and design, overall

 

[carob]

For those using Google Analytics, what default url are you using under Property Settings. I've tried:

undeveloped.com/domain-seller/my seller name

one of the domains I have there, something.com type of deal

Tried each for a few days.

Under reports, I'm not getting the pages, they're all lumped under /

Thanks.

GA >Behaviour >Page Title

The page title contains the domain name.

 

[Tecany]

Just got my first buyer backing off after negotiated the price amd I acceted his counter offer. They informed him that he accepted and is legally binded to it and he laughed at them saying he will not respect anything.

I think undeveloped handle the case well enought.

 

[alcy]

people laughing at undeveloped contracts is not undeveloped problem. its the buyer's problem. and frankly, they are the ones who look stupid in the end.

unpaid sales happen everywhere. its just that many people are more familiar with things like gd auctions.. and having acocunts there, they may fear more losing their accounts after gd auctions emails them saying something like.. if you do not pay, there will be account restrictions etc.

so as long as undeveloped also emails buyers with reminders that talk about accnt restritions then this is the most they can do.

its also important for undeveloped to BAN unpaid buyers.. so that they do not play same tricks on other sellers later.. okay @Undeveloped ?