Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[imadoer]

Are you complaining to complain? I'm getting a bit fed up with all the unfounded complaints in this thread that creates clutter and takes way our attention of important high-impact items.

You have the ability to relist the domain and quite to the contrary we exclusively offer support in the weekends for also this type of requests.

If this thread continues to build on the negatives constantly my personal interest to be as active here will also diminish.

Am I complaining to complain NO I'm trying to make undeveloped a better place for the seller and you ain't listening. Not being to fully cancel a transaction is weak sending payment reminders to someone that wont pay is weak and so is the fact that you ain't doing anything about it.

 

[wizard]

Am I complaining to complain NO I'm trying to make undeveloped a better place for the seller and you ain't listening. Not being to fully cancel a transaction is weak sending payment reminders to someone that wont pay is weak and so is the fact that you ain't doing anything about it.

Yes its very annoying

 

[karmaco]

I have been hesitant to put any buy it nows since immediate payment is not mandatory. Seems to be alot of issues with fake buyers. What is Undeveloped doing to deter those fake buyers from continuing shenanigans with other listings?

Personally I think it should be up to the individual seller whether to demand immediate payment and when to cancel a non paying transaction. Too much coddling makes more problems. There should be a consequence for not paying at the very least that they can be blocked by that seller.

 

[alcy]

I have been hesitant to put any buy it nows since immediate payment is not mandatory. Seems to be alot of issues with fake buyers. What is Undeveloped doing to deter those fake buyers from continuing shenanigans with other listings?

Personally I think it should be up to the individual seller whether to demand immediate payment and when to cancel a non paying transaction. Too much coddling makes more problems. There should be a consequence for not paying at the very least that they can be blocked by that seller.

i think imediate pay is requird for buynow

 

[wizard]

I have been hesitant to put any buy it nows since immediate payment is not mandatory. Seems to be alot of issues with fake buyers. What is Undeveloped doing to deter those fake buyers from continuing shenanigans with other listings?

Personally I think it should be up to the individual seller whether to demand immediate payment and when to cancel a non paying transaction. Too much coddling makes more problems. There should be a consequence for not paying at the very least that they can be blocked by that seller.

Yes should be banned and ip banned and email address.

The issue is the numbers are not verified so anyone can put in any number or any email address...

 

[wizard]

i think imediate pay is requird for buynow

Yes should have to pay instantly to buy now as with make offer at the moment its a joke...

 

[karmaco]

i think imediate pay is requird for buynow

Then everyone should go to buy it nows right and the problems go away?

 

[wizard]

Then everyone should go to buy it nows right and the problems go away?

Yes well for now until they can fix the issue with non verfied numbers etc

 

[alcy]

Yes should have to pay instantly to buy now as with make offer at the moment its a joke...

i think they changed it so now u have to pay instant for bin @Undeveloped

 

[DAN.COM]

Am I complaining to complain NO I'm trying to make undeveloped a better place for the seller and you ain't listening. Not being to fully cancel a transaction is weak sending payment reminders to someone that wont pay is weak and so is the fact that you ain't doing anything about it.

That's your opinion which is fine. We disagree here because I already gave you an option to relist and cancel your transactions.

You say:

"Not being to fully cancel a transaction is weak" - I'm not sure if I follow this one. If we cancel a transaction, the sale is gone permanently. Canceling too early is data proven a bad move as you turn the chance of a successful sale into zero chance of a successful sale.

"Sending payment reminders to someone that wont pay is weak" - I don't think so. That's how you convert a non-payer into a successful buyer. Not sending reminders and outright canceling each sale after 24 hours will cost you a lot of money as a seller. Some sellers might come back, many will have moved on and chosen another domain.

 

[DAN.COM]

I have been hesitant to put any buy it nows since immediate payment is not mandatory. Seems to be alot of issues with fake buyers. What is Undeveloped doing to deter those fake buyers from continuing shenanigans with other listings?

Personally I think it should be up to the individual seller whether to demand immediate payment and when to cancel a non paying transaction. Too much coddling makes more problems. There should be a consequence for not paying at the very least that they can be blocked by that seller.

This is exactly what we get when inaccurate information is being spread guys...

Karmaco, the best model to sell is to add BIN prices so absolutely don't skip that part because of the clutter in this thread. Definitely also enable installments when adding BIN prices. You'll definitely start loving that feature once your sales are starting to come in.

By the way, when in doubt, feel free to test the system yourself. If we have to cancel a test transaction, that's totally fine.

All sellers that only work with BIN's never have a single non-payper as the buyer is sent directly to checkout.

Also, Undeveloped doesn't have a non-payer issue. You might start thinking that if you read some comments here but some sellers see a buyer that takes 2 days to pay as a non-payer. When those buyers eventually pay, you don't hear them here posting it (it happened).

 

[DAN.COM]

I wonder if somewhere you could advise buyers or offer-makers that installments or rental may be available. Then they could ask the seller about that since, as you say, this can move negotiations along. And allows them to spend more.

Some of the repeat queries in this thread could go into an FAQ - someone else started an FAQ thread on here hoping to avoid trivia but info from this thread would have to be moved across to that one. And since Undeveloped is under development things may change!

Hi Carob,

Directly after the buyer places an offer we send them emails with tips on how to negotiate successfully and we start informing them on why a premium name is worth the price etc. In that email, we also mention that installments may be available. We'll add the rental option as well once that feature has matured a little bit.

Kind regards,

Reza

 

[carob]

Hi Carob,

Directly after the buyer places an offer we send them emails with tips on how to negotiate successfully and we start informing them on why a premium name is worth the price etc. In that email, we also mention that installments may be available. We'll add the rental option as well once that feature has matured a little bit.

Kind regards,

Reza

Hi thanks, that is helpful info. Could you copy that to us or at least share the contents or points made, for example in a seller-only section of the site? It really helps to know where the buyer is coming from and what they have been told. Are there other stock messages we might like to know about?

At Uniregistry/DomainNameSales you can see all the broker messages to the client so you really do know what is going on.

By contrast, at Sedo you are very in dark - messaging clients at Undeveloped is way better.

 

[meslam479]

I have a situation with a buyer who didn't pay in 30 of July, transaction got canceled and later on Sep, he paid for the domain with fake identity so changing barrier won't help IMHO

If this thread continues to build on the negatives constantly my personal interest to be as active here will also diminish.

Don't go please we appreciate your great support in here

 

[GenericDomainz]

I think that Undeveloped.com is too... Undeveloped at this moment There is not too much serious offers/propositions at this platform. But as a design it looks very nice, so Undeveloped could be much more nice in future and become serious domain selling platform.

 

[wizard]

I think that Undeveloped.com is too... Undeveloped at this moment There is not too much serious offers/propositions at this platform. But as a design it looks very nice, so Undeveloped could be much more nice in future and become serious domain selling platform.

Do u have any domains with them if so how many ?

The platform is fine and they do have big sales happen its just a few things that could be changed.

 

[GenericDomainz]

Do u have any domains with them if so how many ?

The platform is fine and they do have big sales happen its just a few things that could be changed.

Yes, I have some domains. Undeveloped has very good and friendly usability, that's good, but it's not so serious for big sales as Sedo.

 

[wizard]

Yes, I have some domains. Undeveloped has very good and friendly usability, that's good, but it's not so serious for big sales as Sedo.

undeveloped have big sales lots are private sedo might have more but that has nothing to do with the platform as you havent mentioned the amount of domains you have on there then i dont think you have many we have had great results using undeveloped far more than we did with sedo.

 

[alcy]

Yes, I have some domains. Undeveloped has very good and friendly usability, that's good, but it's not so serious for big sales as Sedo.

its not about serious or not... gd auctions and sedo have longtrack record and many users... so many people go to gd auctions or sedo just to browse auctions... whereas at undeveloped very few people go to the market and browse through there.. at least its nowhere close to sedo or gd in terms of numbers.

so we have to make important distinction:

using undeveloped for typein trafic sale lander.. vs undeveloped market for sales.

if you rely on the latter, then you will more thna likely have zero sales... if you rely on it for former... then undeveloped lander and then sale process (for both seller and buyer) are probably way better/developed than some fairly simplistic sedo lander or gd auctions lander.. that are both stuck in same place for years.. no renting, no leasing, no installements etc.. and zero innovations.

imo

 

[DAN.COM]

Hi thanks, that is helpful info. Could you copy that to us or at least share the contents or points made, for example in a seller-only section of the site? It really helps to know where the buyer is coming from and what they have been told. Are there other stock messages we might like to know about?

At Uniregistry/DomainNameSales you can see all the broker messages to the client so you really do know what is going on.

By contrast, at Sedo you are very in dark - messaging clients at Undeveloped is way better.

Hi Carob,

Thanks for the feedback. I've made a note of it.

The copy of that email has changed 5 times this year alone and will be prone to changes as we keep evolving.

I would simply advise to go through the process yourself if you're curious about the flow. Just inform your escrow agent timely that the transaction is a test transaction.

Kind regards,

Reza