Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[DAN.COM]

Not really, as you have stated, it is your policy to please buyers unwilling to leave a domain at Godaddy for 60 days and for that reason you will not do a preemptive whois change.

So really you need to tell buyers upfront that 60 day delay will happen so they accept it in the ToS, and you need to educate them to the fact that they can change DNS on GD and start using the domain right away. That takes a bit of writing and maybe a bit of time, but it is just a cost of doing business. Otherwise you are just transferring risk onto sellers who may not even know it.

I can't see how you can offer escrow service without removing the seller from the Whois. ICANN define the registrant as the owner. If someone sells a domain and whois does not change, they can force the registrar to give it back no matter whose account it is in. It is in the buyer's interest to for whois to change at time of sale too.

Our policy with Godaddy managed names is formed by Godaddy's policy. With other registrars we have your proposed processes in place. So you can make the problem that Godaddy introduces, our problem but the source of the problem is not us. And as long as sellers keep accepting this Godaddy policy it will never change.

PS: telling buyers upfront that they have to wait for 60-days will result in you not selling the domain. That's a huge waiting period for someone that has paid for a domain and is looking to develop it.

Kind regards,
Reza

 

[carob]

PS: telling buyers upfront that they have to wait for 60-days will result in you not selling the domain. That's a huge waiting period for someone that has paid for a domain and is looking to develop it.

Developing has nothing to do with the registrar. Once they have the domain at Godaddy they have full control of the DNS and can use the domain instantly. There is no delay.

 

[DAN.COM]

Hi thanks for the info.

For anyone not aware of it, having done that and supplied GA code to Undeveloped, you can see your results in GA by going to >Behaviour >Overview >Page Title, where you see a list of titles - each page title contains the domain name so you can see which domains got views.

You can see visitor city, country, language under >Audience >Overview

You can see real time visits in GA. Looks like Undeveloped's visitor stats shown at Undeveloped update daily, or is it more frequent than that?

I wonder if Undeveloped have considered letting us input a unique GA code per domain?

Do you exclude pageviews by logged-in users?

Hi Carob,

We update stats on the dashboard daily indeed.

We haven't thought of adding a unique GA code per domain. This is the first time we get that feature request .

We exclude pageviews generated by the account owner (when logged in).

Kind regards,
Reza

 

[DAN.COM]

Developing has nothing to do with the registrar. Once they have the domain at Godaddy they have full control of the DNS and can use the domain instantly. There is no delay.

I agree with you and that's what we advice buyers as well since nameservers transfer to the new registrar but buyers aren't flexible. You should see the messages we get from buyers when we send them the push instructions at Godaddy.

I can tell you, some responses we get aren't that friendly and often there's also a chargeback threat.

Again, if Godaddy changes this lock-in policy, we're the first to change our process.

 

[carob]

We haven't thought of adding a unique GA code per domain. This is the first time we get that feature request

It probably is not important and generating a lot of codes might confuse users. Not sure what the advantages would be, probably you could generate more specific data and also link domains to Google Search Console data (maybe you can already, will check). Years ago a parking platform called something like Noomle or similar let you put in unique GA codes per domain as I recall.

 

[moe]

Not sure if this issue has been brought up before, but I checked "domain was sold" by mistake! now the landing page shows message that domain has been sold on undeveloped and the domain is no longer in my dashboard, tried to add it again but same result, any idea how to fix this?

 

[Joshua Harding]

It probably is not important and generating a lot of codes might confuse users. Not sure what the advantages would be, probably you could generate more specific data and also link domains to Google Search Console data (maybe you can already, will check). Years ago a parking platform called something like Noomle or similar let you put in unique GA codes per domain as I recall.

While possible, there's simply no advantage in doing this - both for Undeveloped, and for you, the owner. The way that it's structured is extremely flexible in GA.

For example, try fooling around with the acquisition channels, with "Page" as your secondary dimension.
This will display a breakdown of all unique domains associated with your Undeveloped account.

You can play around with further customizations, but this will at least (I think) give you what you're looking for.

 

[xeroox]

Is there any way to hide completed/closed transaction from the sales activity in the dashboard?

 

[domains21]

Hi Wizard,

This topic has come up more often. We show the local conversion rate of each buyer on your landers to automate the process so you don't have to edit currency settings for thousands of domains.

So a Chinese buyer will see automatically the RMB equivalent of the price you ask so they know exactly what the cost is. And our payment provider allows them also to pay in their local currency which is converted to your main currency.

As handy as this, it would still be great if we had the option to localise the pricing for our domains to make sure we get the price we set. It's all fair and good saying that an auto-conversion is done to help buyers understand what the cost in their regional currency will be, however with the way currency rates fluctuate this makes it hard to price your ccTLD offerings effectively.

If someone has a portfolio made up of mostly .com domains and therefore has chosen USD as their currency display but then wants to make sure they get €1000 for a .eu domain, they have to estimate what USD value is best for that instead of setting the actual currency and not having to worry about the current exchange rate.

Case in point: only two months ago a EUR1000 was USD1130, today it is USD1151.

I know my example is exact, and in reality most would set their pricing to account for this, but at the end of the day wouldn't it be better if the price wanted is the one that could be specified to begin with?

 

[DAN.COM]

Not sure if this issue has been brought up before, but I checked "domain was sold" by mistake! now the landing page shows message that domain has been sold on undeveloped and the domain is no longer in my dashboard, tried to add it again but same result, any idea how to fix this?

Hi Moe,

Simply head to the domain overview page -> hit the Edit button again -> uncheck the Sold setting -> hit save and the for sale page will be back.

Is there any way to hide completed/closed transaction from the sales activity in the dashboard?

At the moment that's not possible. We show the most recent activity there, including for completed transactions so you notice when an escrow agent messages you post-transaction. Otherwise, you can easily miss those messages.

As handy as this, it would still be great if we had the option to localise the pricing for our domains to make sure we get the price we set. It's all fair and good saying that an auto-conversion is done to help buyers understand what the cost in their regional currency will be, however with the way currency rates fluctuate this makes it hard to price your ccTLD offerings effectively.

If someone has a portfolio made up of mostly .com domains and therefore has chosen USD as their currency display but then wants to make sure they get €1000 for a .eu domain, they have to estimate what USD value is best for that instead of setting the actual currency and not having to worry about the current exchange rate.

Case in point: only two months ago a EUR1000 was USD1130, today it is USD1151.

I know my example is exact, and in reality most would set their pricing to account for this, but at the end of the day wouldn't it be better if the price wanted is the one that could be specified to begin with?

Yeah, I get you. Thanks for providing that great context. The feature to be able to set a currency per domain is on our roadmap but hasn't been prioritized above the other features and product enhancements we're working on, yet.

Another reason we opted for our method (show auto-conversions) is that we don't per se see any indication when we look at our data that buyers even care much about the currency. US buyers, for example, purchase EUR listings at almost the identical ratio as USD listings.

 

[Cdomains]

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[tomcarl]

Anyone else getting 'IP address not found' error on their domains?

 

[creataweb]

Anyone else getting 'IP address not found' error on their domains?

Nope.

 

[BRANDERX]

Hi,
whats going on here? "this site cannot be reached" for all my domains.

anyone else?

 

[campout]

whats going on here? "this site cannot be reached" for all my domains.

It's working for me.

 

[tomcarl]

Hi,
whats going on here? "this site cannot be reached" for all my domains.

anyone else?

Same here. Also tried different devices, not working.

 

[myfavorite]

No issue on my side

 

[creataweb]

Works fine for me on smart phone and computer. Your IP blocked? Check with Undev

 

[.X.]

Working good here as well

 

[BRANDERX]

Same here. Also tried different devices, not working.

Contacted Undeveloped.

will keep you informed.

Thanks