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OK white knight. Anything else you want to lecture us on?

Right, which didn't address anything in my post at all. You're going to get a Conservative judge one way or another, that's how it works.

You added this:
"Where does Kavanaugh go to get his reputation back?"

If it's found he is innocent, then the accuser's reputation will be tarnished.

If he's guilty, then we won't have some wannabee rapist on the highest court.
 
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Shocker!!; Ford's lawyer won't say who paid for her lie detector test or any other details. In other words, it's a fraud. Feinstein knows it too.

Ford can't testify in front of congress without purjering herself, taking the 5th or outing other conspirators. Sen. Grassley should subpoena Ford for a closed door interview with the Judiciary Committee.

Odds of Ford refusing to testify on Monday, then changing her mind on Tuesday 90%.
 
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OK white knight. Anything else you want to lecture us on?

Yes, stop acting so moist all the time. You know the post made sense, that's why you didn't actually reply to any of it.
 
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Were you there, that you know this?

Like the accusation was crafted to prevent the accused from clearing themselves.

If one were going to make up a story, why include a witness in it?

Why make up a story at all and expose yourself and your family to this kind of abuse? She must have been expecting at least some of it. Though probably not death threats.

And remember - she also passed a polygraph.

We’ve been over this. She was talking about the Incident long before he was on the list for Supreme Court. Must be psychic.

Those weak reading skills are causing you trouble again She’s willing to testify but wants a nonpartisan investigation by law enforcement to take place first. Given the amount of division over this, that sounds like a reasonable request.

Kavanaugh in 2015- “what happens in Georgetown Prep stays at Georgetown Prep.” Given reports of the underage drinking, I think school officials owe it to the parents paying a buttload of money to find out what “happens” at that school and crack down on it. But that’s a separate issue.

a gullible sheep.

You’re projecting.

He should step down. There was already an issue with the lack of transparency and his refusal to answer key questions. If he gets put through without an investigation of this, the appointment will be tainted.

They have a list - just choose one that doesn’t have major skeletons in the closet.
 
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The thing I find most appalling in the Ford /Kavanaugh story is that some here are not condemning those who have made death threats against her and her family.

IF she’s found to have made a false accusation or perjured herself, she would be in deep legal doo, but it’s hardly a death penalty offense. And either way her kids / spouse aren’t involved.

So some here are OK with threats to murder a family you don’t know in the name of vigilante ”justice”, over a nonviolent act that wasn’t a threat to you or your own family?

This woman, who passed a polygraph, has been forced to flee her home and go into hiding for her safety and the safety of her kids, all because of something she said.

If that doesn’t make you feel sick, you need to take a long break and go search for your missing moral compass. I’m done with you.
 
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1) Death threats are bad. If you're surprised it happens then you're naive.

2) Ford passed a polygraph but refuses to give the questions that were asked to the Judiciary Committee.

3) This is political theater. Sen. Hiro made it clear, goal is too keep the vacant SCOTUS seat open until after 2020.

4) I'm sorry facts don't line up with your emotions but it's immoral to ignore them.

The thing I find most appalling in the Ford /Kavanaugh story is that some here are not condemning those who have made death threats against her and her family.

IF she’s found to have made a false accusation or perjured herself, she would be in deep legal doo, but it’s hardly a death penalty offense. And either way her kids / spouse aren’t involved.

So some here are OK with threats to murder a family you don’t know in the name of vigilante ”justice”, over a nonviolent act that wasn’t a threat to you or your own family?

This woman, who passed a polygraph, has been forced to flee her home and go into hiding for her safety and the safety of her kids, all because of something she said.

If that doesn’t make you feel sick, you need to take a long break and go search for your missing moral compass. I’m done with you.
 
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Were you there, that you know this?

I can think. But please feel free how in any circumstance, Kavanaugh could prove his innocence or Ford prove his guilt?

Three people, two say it didn't happen, one says it did. But she doesn't know when or where, or how she got to the party. Only time frame offered it "summer vacation" so there was no chance to talk with school friends, etc.

Carefully crafted to exclude any witnesses besides the three people mentioned. How could that be?

If one were going to make up a story, why include a witness in it?

Kavanaugh is well regarded, honorable man. The only witness is an admitted alcoholic. But please, tell us why we should believe Ford over the other two people she said were there?

Why make up a story at all and expose yourself and your family to this kind of abuse? She must have been expecting at least some of it. Though probably not death threats.

Why call a public tip line if you wanted to stay anonymous? Why take a lie detector test but refuse to give important details of test, like what questions were asked?

Anita Hill went from a mid-level bureaucrat to a cause celeb. Her life after accusing Justice Thomas got much better.

And remember - she also passed a polygraph.
The only thing you need to pass a polygraph is an antidepressant. They are not lie detectors, they only measure "sympathetic response".

We’ve been over this. She was talking about the Incident long before he was on the list for Supreme Court. Must be psychic.

By her own testimony, it didn't come up until 2012, when she saw a political advertisement in the NYT mentioning Judge Kavanaugh. There is a question if she even named Kavanaugh at that time.

Those weak reading skills are causing you trouble again She’s willing to testify but wants a nonpartisan investigation by law enforcement to take place first. Given the amount of division over this, that sounds like a reasonable request.

1) Before the committee agreed to delay the confirmation, Ford's attorney said she was eager to testify.

2) After the delay, she refused. She falsley claimed she would have to sit next to Kavanaugh, then demanded an in investigation by the FBI.

Ford could demand a private hearing with her lawyer present. Her goal is to delay the confirmation hearing.

If Ford doesn't testify on Monday then demands a chance to testify before the confirmation vote, I expect you'll apologize.

Kavanaugh in 2015- “what happens in Georgetown Prep stays at Georgetown Prep.” Given reports of the underage drinking, I think school officials owe it to the parents paying a buttload of money to find out what “happens” at that school and crack down on it. But that’s a separate issue.

You're taking a quote out of context. The whole speech has been posted, listen from 4 to 5 minute marks.

You’re projecting.

He should step down. There was already an issue with the lack of transparency and his refusal to answer key questions.

It's called thinking, not projection.

You're repeating lies you've heard on the View and MSNBC. DK's answers were complete, he answered 1500 follow up questions after the hearing.

If he gets put through without an investigation of this, the appointment will be tainted.

They have a list - just choose one that doesn’t have major skeletons in the closet.

Your standard of proof that a vague accusation from 36 years ago, which can not be proved or disproved would exclude everyone from serving in any appointed position.

You are supporting the slander of a honorable and thoughtful man. He's been a proactive mentor and advocate for women regardless of politics.

The entire DNC machine couldn't find one person who has worked with him that doesn't support his nomination.

*** One of the other "two or three" people, depending on which version of Ford's story you choose, identified by Ford as "PJ" refutes her accusation.

https://www.redstate.com/prevaila/2...smate-denies-party-sexual-assault-allegation/
 
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A judge with 12 year record on the federal bench, multiple FBI background checks, appointed by both democrats and republicans. Impeccable record and support from every woman who's worked with him.

One vague accusation from 36 years ago is the standard for ending his career ?
 
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He literally watches Fox to get his talking points. Ooh, that's a good point, I'll use that.

“North Korea recommits to denuclearization - we’ve come a long way.” @FoxNews
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago


North Korea is still making nukes, and the Trump admin is taking a harder line
The newest intelligence shows Kim’s regime has stepped up efforts to hide its nuclear weapons production, say three senior U.S. officials.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...ing-nukes-trump-admin-now-taking-much-n907651
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The Department of Justice and the FBI will reportedly defy Trump's demand that secret documents from the Russia investigation be declassified and will redact the material https://thebea.st/2NkRA7Q

8:25 AM - Sep 19, 2018
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Trump
"Asked what he thought the outcome of his long-running fight with the FBI, the president said: “I hope to be able put this up as one of my crowning achievements that I was able to ... expose something that is truly a cancer in our country.”

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...rrupt-fbi-probe-could-be-crowning-achievement
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Leaked internal RNC polls show Trump supporters believe his ‘red wave’ hype — and won’t bother voting
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/le...ers-believe-red-wave-hype-wont-bother-voting/
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Bert issued a statement today saying that he is in fact gay and that it shouldn't matter because he was in a committed, loving relationship with Ernie. The message is about commitment, regardless of sexual orientation.
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Trump Again Slams Jeff Sessions: 'I Don't Have An Attorney General'

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/19/6494...eff-sessions-i-don-t-have-an-attorney-general

Daily dose of TDS

Daily does of mr-x's struggle with reality.
 
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SANDS CRAZY
Donald Trump suggested building a wall across the SAHARA to solve Europe’s migrant crisis, Spanish minster claims
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/72962...ropes-migrant-crisis-spanish-minster-reveals/


haha

Donald Trump: I consult myself on foreign policy, 'because I have a very good brain'


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Now she refuses to testify about what happened. This is a scam, you're a gullible sheep.
And you wonder why women are reluctant to speak up. In addition to their shame as victims and moral burden they are already crucified by the mob before they even get a chance to tell their story.
Nice to see that male solidarity by the way. It's no wonder the groper in chief stands behind his nominee. Even if the accusations were true, he wouldn't see a problem with that.

DK's character has earned him the respect of hundreds of women. Never an accusation of butt grabbing, talking dirty or anything else.
But the same was said about many other men until Metoo right ?
We don't know about every detail of his private life, past and present. At some point in life we have all done stuff we aren't too proud about, but some people have hurt others, broken lives.
Humans will always disappoint.

I am not saying she is telling the whole truth. It's still too early to tell. But your eagerness to discard all the facts or the mere reporting that you don't like is disturbing. This is so MAGA. The truth doesn't matter, let's make up our own.
 
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And you wonder why women are reluctant to speak up. In addition to their shame as victims and moral burden they are already crucified by the mob before they even get a chance to tell their story.
Nice to see that male solidarity by the way. It's no wonder the groper in chief stands behind his nominee. Even if the accusations were true, he wouldn't see a problem with that.

Ford: I'm eager to testify

Grassley: Good,

Ford: Changed my mind.

Grassley: You can testify in private or we can send staffers to your location for the interview.

Ford: No. I wan the FBI to investigate.

Please explain how that squares with your claim? The idea anyone can make a accusation and must be believed regardless of facts, is asinine.


But the same was said about many other men until Metoo right ?
We don't know about every detail of his private life, past and present. At some point in life we have all done stuff we aren't too proud about, but some people have hurt others, broken lives.
Humans will always disappoint.

I am not saying she is telling the whole truth. It's still too early to tell. But your eagerness to discard all the facts or the mere reporting that you don't like is disturbing. This is so MAGA. The truth doesn't matter, let's make up our own.

Putting aside your bias, how does this relate to Kavanaugh? There have been no other claims of abuse, not even a pinch or rude comment. DK has the overwhelming support from both women and men he's worked with.

The only witnesses the accuser can name have all said they don't know what she's talking about. She doesn't know when, where how she got to the party she claims the assault took place at.

Her story has changed at least twice. Those are facts I'm not ignoring.
 
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But your eagerness to discard all the facts or the mere reporting that you don't like is disturbing. This is so MAGA. The truth doesn't matter, let's make up our own.

Please list the facts I've discarded.
 
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Even if the accusations were true, he wouldn't see a problem with that.

Please explain why you've been silent about Keith Ellison, candidate for Attorney General of MI, abusing his girlfriend?
 
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To me, Christine Ford is nothing but an opportunist, a fraud and a LYING Democrat operative who has been attending anti-Trump rallies, fighting Trump border polices, donating to Dems. She can’t be trusted. This is a SCAM against the American people.

On top of that she has the full backing of the Democrats, lefties and MSM for the sole reason of delaying Kavanaugh's appointment.

I’m a bit puzzled by the significance placed by some on this thread and Democrats on the polygraph of Christine Ford. Roy Moore also passed a polygraph test, which was followed by criticisms about the reliability of polygraphs.

I guess it all depends on the political status of the polygraph taker...

Once all this is over she's gonna make a pile of money making interviews on her anti Trump views, followed by a book against Trump...

Apparently Christine Ford admitted she was an alcoholic back then and regretted being so easy. She told her best friend she had 64 sexual partners between 11th grade through college... busy little girl...

As for her getting death threats... that's what her lawyer said, right?


Actually, Christine Ford looks a lot like a young chic that invited me to a "menage à trois" in the early 80's when I lived in California...


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Arguing with Liberals is like arguing with a goat, but a lot more fun!!!
Hats off to @mr-x for having the so much patience in dealing with them!!!
 
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Apparently Christine Ford admitted she was an alcoholic back then and regretted being so easy. She told her best friend she had 64 sexual partners between 11th grade through college... busy little girl...

As for her getting death threats... that's what her lawyer said, right?


Actually, Christine Ford looks a lot like a young chic that invited me to a "menage à trois" in the early 80's when I lived in California...

So somebody tweets that, Twitter account now closed - https://webcache.googleusercontent....+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1

Account closed, Joined September 2018 - https://twitter.com/LodgeNixon

Only posted on right wing blogs, 4 chan etc.

You are such an idiot. Maybe I should tweet Gilsan had 64 transgender partners while he was in California?
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/19/us/politics/christine-blasey-ford-kavanaughs-fact-check.html
Debunking 5 Viral Rumors About Christine Blasey Ford, Kavanaugh’s Accuser

The one I just posted about:

"They have claimed that she wrote on Facebook in 2016 that “Scalia types must be banned from law.” Another variant of this claim also has her writing that “Scalia types must be banned from courts.”

Neither phrase appears in a search of public Facebook posts in 2016. It’s possible that the phrases appeared in posts that have since been deleted from Dr. Blasey’s accounts. But these claims don’t contain links to old posts, or any other form of attribution. The account of the Twitter user who appeared to originate the claim, @LodgeNixon, has since been deleted, and no evidence of the purported Facebook post has emerged."
 
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BTW, if Dr. Blasey Ford is lying...
Lying to the FBI is a crime and I’m sure she knows that. Why is she demanding an FBI investigation?
More to the point, if nothing happened and Kavanough’s reputation is on the line, why ISN’T he demanding one? It would clear him.

OR...
Why doesn’t he volunteer to take a poly like she did?
 
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Weird how every time Sen. Grassley makes an accommodation for MS Ford's testimony, she makes new demands.

All three contemporaneous witnesses have given statements refuting her story.
 
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BTW, if Dr. Blasey Ford is lying...
Lying to the FBI is a crime and I’m sure she knows that. Why is she demanding an FBI investigation?
More to the point, if nothing happened and Kavanough’s reputation is on the line, why ISN’T he demanding one?

Lying to congress is also a federal crime. The only person refusing to talk to investigators is your gal pal, Ford. Nice spin though.

BTW, Senate Judiciary also investigated Anita Hill's accusations. All the FBI did was interview her and turn the notes over to the Judiciary Committee investigators. The way it's always been done.

OR...
Why doesn’t he volunteer to take a poly like she did?

Moving the goal post eh? Kavanaugh has given testimony under oath, why won't Ford?

You keep bleating about the polygraph test. She hasn't released the questions or results. If you don't know what questions were asked, the test is worthless.

In the United States of America, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. I know liberals don't like the constitution but you'll have to get over it.
 
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