discuss My outbound experience

[frank-germany]

let me share my results from my yesterday outbound with you:

1 answered: "how much?"

1 answered: "No thanks. Would you be interested acquiring iamadomainsquatter.com? "
(No match for "IAMADOMAINSQUATTER.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: 2018-04-07T05:45:48Z <<<)

1 answered:
"Thanks for the email, we don't really need another domain, but I see the evaluation is ~$850, so can give you $450.00 for it, would that work?"


any suggestions how to react?

 

[Nezam Uddin]

I did not see description of this on their website. Pricing only mentions leads. Is this an extra service for extra fee?

Seems like it's free. It's branded as "outreach". The fee is for finding the leads or 100 leads per month for the free account.

You can track opens in the outreach tab after you send campaign to a leads folder.

 

[frank-germany]

 

[frank-germany]

2) "No thanks. Would you be interested acquiring iamadomainsquatter.com? "

These type of replies are obvious don't write back to. Sometimes we get in a habit of getting into discussions on a forum and you want to carry that debating or explaining style on an eneduser that disagrees or is rude or clearly doesn't understand the business. But the reality is there nothing to gain from getting into these debates. Plus always consider people have a right to be upset with domain spam. It would also be really embarrassing to five months later send this person another "want to buy my domain" email so should have a method to permanently block a repeat send.

right it got nowhere:

 

[frank-germany]

3) Thanks for the email, we don't really need another domain, but I see the evaluation is ~$850, so can give you $450.00 for it, would that work?"

First of all, this has a real offer in the answer so it has to be respected even if it is way off.

The problem is no matter how much we domainers know about generated valuations, to the uneducated on domains enduser, it truly feels like an unbiased evaluation from a respected international third party. This type of answer will only get bigger in the future.

You could offer a quick explanation to the buyer of how computer-generated valuations would be calculated and that the GD system would be tweaked in the direction(lower) of quick sales to get money flowing.

You could offer some similar sales.

To me, it would be ugly, but could do the "Yes GD has it at $xxx but Estibot has it at $xxxx" Type of thing. But might have to take a shower after lol

The point is you have to defend your price in some way (and your own way) or give up the sale or counter within reach of the $450


Good Luck

the domain sold at $1.200 USD

was a handreg of 50 days before
from the daily drops
found at F1lter.com
using custom keywords

here is the email flow:

 

[Cdomains]

here is another reply I got just now


"I have a domain. Thanks "

We have to remember people don't see domains like we do.

Most think a domain is only worth about reg fee.

Most don't see the value in having a good name.

It is a hard sell for sure.

 

[momentum]

Nice job on the $1,200 sale. You made the first $450 easily and then earned the last $750 with your negotiations and communications. Well done!

 

[Slumbee]

I decided to give this a try and purchased a domain "idahovapor.com". I have contacted about 30 end users and got about 6 "no thanks" replies. I was a little bit happy that I at least got some replies after just 2 weeks of researching on domaining. However,I'm afraid I might have exhausted my list of end users.

 

[VaibhavA]

@frank-germany nice post!
Could you share your email template?

 

[Slumbee]

@frank-germany I can't reply your dm because I am still new. 250 what I asked

 

[frank-germany]

Nice job on the $1,200 sale. You made the first $450 easily and then earned the last $750 with your negotiations and communications. Well done!

I didn't feel like it's an easy $450 USD

as all my latest accepted counter offers
ended in silence and no sale at all

I will never ever accept the first end user (counter) offer

 

[frank-germany]

didn't have a sale in 1 month
still sending like 100 to 200 outbound emails almost everday
tweeking my sales pitch

 

[frank-germany]

today I spend the whole day
at the vet
cause my dog needs a cancer treatment

so this nice reply today
can't hurt me today
as I'm am already burned out:

( still think it's a perfect name )

 

[golan]

Wow.

We should get here more emotional reactions apart like/thank/dislike. I wanted to react somehow but can't press any of these.

 

[hwgriffi]

today I spend the whole day
at the vet
cause my dog needs a cancer treatment

so this nice reply today
can't hurt me today
as I'm am already burned out:

( still think it's a perfect name )


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If I got an email like this bro, I would say the same thing.

Too pushy.

 

[Kate]

Too pushy.

It really looks like it came from Uniregistry

 

[hwgriffi]

Also Frank

What is with this writing style?
Where there is only five words
on each line?

You must write like pro.
Or else won't be taken seriously!

Regardless of the language barrier.

I love you man.
But if I got an email written like this,
I would delete it
and mark as spam.

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Hop on YouTube and do some research on how to write a professional B2B email. There is no shame in learning something new, but first you have to admit you might need some help.

Learning humility is one of the largest obstacles a domainer must hurdle. I swallowed that pill several times, and still learning new things every day!

 

[DanBingham]

This is not how to do outbound. How is this email personalised? What you have said that would make the buyer want to buy the name? 'Please tell me WHAT?', sounds aggressive.

 

[Andrew Knox]

I don't do much outbound. Usually only very targeted emails and calls, if I do reach out. I find that it is easier to make my sales goals through auctions, etc.

I have sold a few via outbound, but it's hard chasing people down.

Quick story....

I hand regged the domain DrMLKJr.com. Stands for Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I decided to donate the domain to the Dr Martin Luther King Foundation. I sent an email to them offering the domain a few weeks ago. I almost immediately get an email back very graciously accepting the gift and asking what the process of transferring the domain would be. I responded saying that they needed to have an account at GoDaddy or create one. Never heard back again. I'm not going to chase them to give them a gift.

Even trying to give away a domain completely free via outbound can be tricky.

I've had the same experience trying to give domains to family, friends and celebrities

 

[frank-germany]

that controversial email had a good open / click rate

 

[frank-germany]

Also Frank

What is with this writing style?
Where there is only five words
on each line?

You must write like pro.
Or else won't be taken seriously!

Regardless of the language barrier.

I love you man.
But if I got an email written like this,
I would delete it
and mark as spam.

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Hop on YouTube and do some research on how to write a professional B2B email. There is no shame in learning something new, but first you have to admit you might need some help.

Learning humility is one of the largest obstacles a domainer must hurdle. I swallowed that pill several times, and still learning new things every day!

@hwgriffi thank you for your feedback


to me, that writing style looks 150 times better then the normal long lines I use to receive from spammers
twitter started the short messages people don't get long and complex sentences having 1 thought per line
to me is easier to understand personally I 'm used to read books even started with Ulysses but twitter users can't focus long enough I think that's a worldwide trend so to me, it makes perfect sense to have 1 thought per line.



to me, that writing style looks 150 times better
then the normal long lines
I use to receive from spammers

twitter started the short messages
people don't get long and complex sentences

having 1 thought per line
to me is easier to understand

personally I 'm used to read books
even start with Ulysses

but twitter users can't focus long enough
I think that's a worldwide trend

so to me, it makes perfect sense
to have 1 thought per line



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but the question here is:
which approach is more effective in terms of sales

 

[frank-germany]

If I got an email like this bro, I would say the same thing.

Too pushy.

so pushy = bad results?

what is your experience?
did you test it?
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the question here is:
which approach is more effective in terms of sales

 

[frank-germany]

It really looks like it came from Uniregistry

51 leads = no sales = uniregistry

so no good idea?
or professional approach?

 

[frank-germany]

This is not how to do outbound. How is this email personalised? What you have said that would make the buyer want to buy the name? 'Please tell me WHAT?', sounds aggressive.

teachme

how do you do it more professionally
and what are the results?
which works best for you?

 

[frank-germany]

I've had the same experience trying to give domains to family, friends and celebrities

so what you try to tell us
is that you have no experience in outbound
but good results in donating domains to "friends" ??

 

[anantj]

teachme

From your other responses, it does not appear you're interested in this. Your passive aggressive responses indicate that you believe your method is right and what everyone else is saying is invalid