various CASINO.ONLINE gTLD sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo

[RamBabuSEO]

Hi Guys,

I just got to know that CASINO.ONLINE gTLD domain sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo
sales link: https://namebio.com/casino.online

Please share your views on gTLD industries.

I think gTLD truly making its ground slowly slowly towards nice growth.

 

[Kenny]

WWW.PAYBILL.ONLINE

Domain name listed for sale

Seriously?
Who is Bill, and why do I want to pay him?

Peace,
Cy

 

[Brands.International]

Seriously?
Who is Bill, and why do I want to pay him?

Peace,
Cy

Lol

 

[james haw]

Thanks for sharing the news

As for the poll, no-one has any idea what could happen, so it makes me wonder what voters have based their selections on. And that goes for positive and negative votes, no-one knows, either way. IMO votes are derived from either hope or hate (or lack of experience)...

Unfortunately for gTLD domainers this will raise false hopes as this sale has no bearing on the potential for .online gTLD sales/prices.

Sincere good luck in selling any domain tho, regardless of the TLD

 

[Brands.International]

Thanks for sharing the news

As for the poll, no-one has any idea what could happen, so it makes me wonder what voters have based their selections on. And that goes for positive and negative votes, no-one knows, either way. IMO votes are derived from either hope or hate (or lack of experience)...

Unfortunately for gTLD domainers this will raise false hopes as this sale has no bearing on the potential for .online gTLD sales/prices.

Sincere good luck in selling any domain tho, regardless of the TLD

Nobody know what will happen in future, but, I can assure that this sale HAS bearing on the potential for .online gTLD sales/prices. I personally use it now when dealing with my .online domains. It is always great when we can show some examples of larger sales, or developed sites, in particular TLD , to end users.
It can never hurt

 

[Wass]

Unfortunately for gTLD domainers this will raise false hopes as this sale has no bearing on the potential for .online gTLD sales/prices.

Nobody know what will happen in future

That's the point lolwarrior... I'm sure that no one the day before the sale of casino.online had guessed that the next day there would be the sale but here there are many people who believe they see the future but maybe they will die tomorrow when they think that they will live another 100 years...
I personally hope for a good future of ngtlds and I believe in this but maybe I'm wrong... who knows?maybe the preachers of namepros know everything...

 

[james haw]

Just my humble thoughts (ramblings) on the matter. I don't care if people invest in .nochance or .com only, just chewing the fat!

maybe the preachers of namepros know everything...

Sure there are those a bit preachy, in both camps (pro and against gTLDs), but there are also those who are entirely on the fence, just looking at what's going on without bias. Rather than jump to a defensive position, maybe look for that intuitive info lurking amongst the mass of hope and emotions?

[I believe the following stats to be reasonably accurate, enough to make my point]
Since August 19, 2015, there have been 29 .online gTLD sales.
Most (at a glance) are very specific, some company name or whatever. From another quick glance, most are either not developed or just redirect.

While this is only public sales, I doubt there are a great deal going on that is not public (why would there be, is this some new gTLD round the back domain trade no-one knows about??)

Also, while such stats don't tell you what will happen in the future, they do tell you what is happening right now. Nothing. So invest in any gTLD, but none of this tells you whether you'll get a sale soon, or have to wait 10 years, or never, or even no ROI regardless of the waiting period.

That is the risk. The major unknown. There's no data nor patterns to decipher, just hope, and waiting, and hoping...

Of the 650,000 registered .online, 426,000 are parked.
29 sales in 1.5 years out of hundreds of thousands, is not so good in my opinion.

Would you gamble on "GameX" in the casino when hundreds of thousands of people lost to only 29 wins...?
And it's not different, because why not the same logic as gTLDs might one day flourish, and "GameX" at the casino will suddenly start going in the favour of the players and not the house...?

________________________________________

If gTLDs are to "take off" then online will be just one of the many that the world, people, businesses etc embrace and start using mainstream.
If this happens, given that there are hundres of them (decent ish ones), they will not hold value because so many to choose from. Why .online, and not .site, or any other? If people embrace one, they'll embrace most of them.

I believe it's entirely possible that in 5 or 20 years time many of the gTLDs will be in use in a big way, but I think it'll dilute the ROI a great deal because of the vast choice.
People here are predicting such things will dilute .com and not be king, well if that happens it'll likely mean all TLDs are fair play, and the general market value will plummet across the board, again because no longer is there a fight for the top ROI on .com, but so many to choose from it'll become a buyers market...

I think .com will always stand out. Not because I'm some drooling .com fan boy, but because it's business, and like with many things, it only needs some initial momentum for it to continue and motion to further the momentum.
Like companies jumping on Facebook years ago. Once a load do it, the rest follow and it keeps happening. This is the likely future of .com, but, who knows

 

[Premiums]

Amazing sale!

 

[Wass]

Just my humble thoughts (ramblings) on the matter. I don't care if people invest in .nochance or .com only, just chewing the fat!


Sure there are those a bit preachy, in both camps (pro and against gTLDs), but there are also those who are entirely on the fence, just looking at what's going on without bias. Rather than jump to a defensive position, maybe look for that intuitive info lurking amongst the mass of hope and emotions?

[I believe the following stats to be reasonably accurate, enough to make my point]
Since August 19, 2015, there have been 29 .online gTLD sales.
Most (at a glance) are very specific, some company name or whatever. From another quick glance, most are either not developed or just redirect.

While this is only public sales, I doubt there are a great deal going on that is not public (why would there be, is this some new gTLD round the back domain trade no-one knows about??)

Also, while such stats don't tell you what will happen in the future, they do tell you what is happening right now. Nothing. So invest in any gTLD, but none of this tells you whether you'll get a sale soon, or have to wait 10 years, or never, or even no ROI regardless of the waiting period.

That is the risk. The major unknown. There's no data nor patterns to decipher, just hope, and waiting, and hoping...

Of the 650,000 registered .online, 426,000 are parked.
29 sales in 1.5 years out of hundreds of thousands, is not so good in my opinion.

Would you gamble on "GameX" in the casino when hundreds of thousands of people lost to only 29 wins...?
And it's not different, because why not the same logic as gTLDs might one day flourish, and "GameX" at the casino will suddenly start going in the favour of the players and not the house...?

________________________________________

If gTLDs are to "take off" then online will be just one of the many that the world, people, businesses etc embrace and start using mainstream.
If this happens, given that there are hundres of them (decent ish ones), they will not hold value because so many to choose from. Why .online, and not .site, or any other? If people embrace one, they'll embrace most of them.

I believe it's entirely possible that in 5 or 20 years time many of the gTLDs will be in use in a big way, but I think it'll dilute the ROI a great deal because of the vast choice.
People here are predicting such things will dilute .com and not be king, well if that happens it'll likely mean all TLDs are fair play, and the general market value will plummet across the board, again because no longer is there a fight for the top ROI on .com, but so many to choose from it'll become a buyers market...

I think .com will always stand out. Not because I'm some drooling .com fan boy, but because it's business, and like with many things, it only needs some initial momentum for it to continue and motion to further the momentum.
Like companies jumping on Facebook years ago. Once a load do it, the rest follow and it keeps happening. This is the likely future of .com, but, who knows

I just have to repeat to you the same things that I said before:

here there are many people who believe they see the future but maybe they will die tomorrow when they think that they will live another 100 years...

maybe the preachers of namepros know everything...

Relax, maybe you will live another 100 years...

Courage

 

[Wass]

Leaving out all the long explanations who is better?

- bitcoin.casino
- bitcoincasino.com
- bitcoincasino.net
- bitcoincasino.org
- bitcoincasino.info
- bitcoincasino.win
- bitcoincasino.bet
- bitcoincasino.kitchen

Everyone can think what he wants but bitcoin.casino is not bad...

 

[james haw]

Everyone can think what he wants but bitcoin.casino is not bad...

Oh yes, that'll definitely be the 30th sale ever in 1.5 years. Well before all the many other potential single premium words that haven't sold yet like "insurance" and, well, thousands of things...

It's worth $0.

 

[Wass]

It's worth $0.

You believe that Bitcoin.Casino is worth $0: it is your right...
And I believe that your brain is worth $0: it is my right...

Courage

 

[Kenny]

This whole thing (not just this thread) reminds me of The Mobi Dicks vs The Comi Cox feud all over again. Anyone remember that clusterflock?

It doesn't matter what the numbers, charts, graphs, pundits, pros, cons say, neither side will ever convince the other "You are wrong" / "We are right". The convo will just run and run in an endless circle of sniping, name calling, and animosity over something that in the end, only time will tell who made the correct play.

And bottom line...
Why would the CNO's care what the gTLD's do with their money?
Man, it's less competition on the drops if they're spending elsewhere, right?

I just hope everyone makes money in whatever they choose.

Peace,
Cy

 

[SmartDomains]

lol. that domain is not worth 200k

that buyer was drunk?

 

[SmartDomains]

Casinohq.net

Any offers?

 

[RamBabuSEO]

Just an update to more strengthen up gTLD industry. To see recent Rightside publishes list of 53 domain sales from $10k up to $183k for video.games
https://onlinedomain.com/2017/04/04...es-list-53-domain-sales-10k-183k-video-games/

 

[slader23]

Oh yes, that'll definitely be the 30th sale ever in 1.5 years. Well before all the many other potential single premium words that haven't sold yet like "insurance" and, well, thousands of things...

It's worth $0.

The problem with your logic is you assume that publicly listed sales account for ALL SALES IN EXISTENCE. There is a vast and largely unnoticed private market where people operate with a high level of discretion. To be thorough in your analysis you need to be able to understand that a publicly listed sale should never be considered as the sole declaration or indicator of liquidity in any tld.

Many investors, including myself prefer to keep our movements in the ngtld markets behind closed doors and away from prying eyes in addition to this many big sales that we will never hear about happen under NDA.

Sure if you want to feel good about yourself, you can list a big sale publicly, but there is far more power in operating anonymously. There are some guys out there with some absolute killer ngtlds, better than Casino.Online, so this sale although being facilitated by a registry is a big indicator of what to expect in the months and years to come. We are in April and have already hit the largest ngtld sale ever? Looks like things are beginning to move even faster than expected.

Brace yourselves....we are about to hit light speed!


P.S I own lots of .com's...but you have to acknowledge and adapt to change....don't miss the bus on this...at this stage you will probably regret it.

 

[ilesanmion]

The problem with your logic is you assume that publicly listed sales account for ALL SALES IN EXISTENCE. There is a vast and largely unnoticed private market where people operate with a high level of discretion. To be thorough in your analysis you need to be able to understand that a publicly listed sale should never be considered as the sole declaration or indicator of liquidity in any tld.

Many investors, including myself prefer to keep our movements in the ngtld markets behind closed doors and away from prying eyes in addition to this many big sales that we will never hear about happen under NDA.

Sure if you want to feel good about yourself, you can list a big sale publicly, but there is far more power in operating anonymously. There are some guys out there with some absolute killer ngtlds, better than Casino.Online, so this sale although being facilitated by a registry is a big indicator of what to expect in the months and years to come. We are in April and have already hit the largest ngtld sale ever? Looks like things are beginning to move even faster than expected.

Brace yourselves....we are about to hit light speed!


P.S I own lots of .com's...but you have to acknowledge and adapt to change....don't miss the bus on this...at this stage you will probably regret it.

Good talk. But one has to watch the ways the trends of domaining move to. In the offing, ngtld may surely catch the attentions of endusers, particularly the premium ones.
I placed my echeck.online on flippa.com auction without reserve to test-run the possibility of growing demand for .online

 

[Kate]

The problem with your logic is you assume that publicly listed sales account for ALL SALES IN EXISTENCE. There is a vast and largely unnoticed private market where people operate with a high level of discretion.

Of course reported sales are the tip of the iceberg but it applies to all other extensions, including .com. There is no reason why new gTLDs sales would be under-reported compared to other TLDs. Even sellers of .com domains have plenty of reasons to stay quiet, if only for tax purposes or lack of explicit disclosure agreement.

On the other hand, many domainers are eager to publish big sales because it raises their profile.
Ever wonder why Mann or Schwartz are making big sales ? I think one reason is that their reputation works for them: any end user approaching them knows that they are not going to sell cheap, and they must set the bar high when making an offer.
Reputation.

 

[dordomai]

Of course reported sales are the tip of the iceberg but it applies to all other extensions, including .com. There is no reason why new gTLDs sales would be under-reported compared to other TLDs. Even sellers of .com domains have plenty of reasons to stay quiet, if only for tax purposes or lack of explicit disclosure agreement.

On the other hand, many domainers are eager to publish big sales because it raises their profile.
Ever wonder why Mann or Schwartz are making big sales ? I think one reason is that their reputation works for them: any end user approaching them knows that they are not going to sell cheap, and they must set the bar high when making an offer.
Reputation.

big sales are not undereported in the Gs, the opposite is true. most domains that sell for big money are registry owned and the registries do what they can to get the sales published.

also they are more likely to be in the headlines. low 6 figure .com sale is not so uncommon, no one cares. G 6 figure sale is big news.

because of the hype and the extensions being new there is a overreporting large sales bias. example:

.xxx and .mobi produced more sales in the first years than they will in the next few decades.

.xyz had high 5 figure and 6 figure numeric sales reported early(if they happened), we won't likely see much of this ever again.

 

[Kate]

.xyz had high 5 figure and 6 figure numeric sales reported early(if they happened), we won't likely see much of this ever again.

It's something I previously mentioned: the big sales often happen in the early days, when the TLD is new and there is excitement. Then it quickly falls into oblivion, it becomes yet another extension, other TLDs are released and in the spotlight for a certain amount of time, and the cycle repeats itself....
The truth is that most new extensions actually depreciate over time, or become downright worthless.
.mobi & .xxx are good examples. .biz never took off.

Icann are releasing more and more extensions and domainers keep buying them (even though the previously-released extensions have not been doing great - so they will quickly forget them). Domainers are fueling the machine.
It's almost as if domainers were chasing lottery tickets.

.online is far from the worst TLD in my opinion but it's somewhat redundant. A website is obviously 'online'.

The sale of CASINO.ONLINE perfectly demonstrates that registries are like the casinos: they always win.
The outsiders go.home with empty pockets.

 

[deez007]

both make as much sense as the other when it comes to meaning..

advertise casinoonline.com and 99% of people understand you are advertising a website.

advertise casino.online and many will not understand that it is a website. when they enter "casino online" in Google they will even not be able to find you unless you rank high for that term.

If you actually believe that then you clearly have never done any Internet Marketing. I do alot of PPC marketing across many verticals and platforms using many many URLS's - for both clients of mine as well as some of my own sites. Even with split testing..... having the .com or nGTLD has proven to have zero effect in the click thru rate, the only thing that matters is the ad copy and the ad images.

Furthermore, you going on about casino.online not being able to be found on Google UNLESS they rank high for that term?... are you high or do you actually have no clue about SEO? - CasinoOnline.com won't be able to be found unless they rank high for that term either. Or are you delusional enough to think that simply having the .com somehow gives the site some sort of priority placing on search results?

 

[Registry Services]

Hi Guys,

I just got to know that CASINO.ONLINE gTLD domain sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo
sales link: https://namebio.com/casino.online

Please share your views on gTLD industries.

I think gTLD truly making its ground slowly slowly towards nice growth.

I think the new-GTLDs have a lot of potential, but selling themselves as "we're like dot-COM, but we're not dot-COM" is automatically casting themselves as second-class.

They need to come up with new, creative & innovative ideas for ways to use & market domain names and sell to the unique features they have that the old TLDs (often) do not have.

For example, you can make real language phrases with new-GTLDs - like just.for.men - you can also do this with a few ccTLDs like MY, US, IT & ME, but otherwise its a unique feature of the new-GTLDs.

Selling to your USP is what you're taught on Day-1 in marketing school.


My 2c worth.

 

[Registry Services]

If you actually believe that then you clearly have never done any Internet Marketing. I do alot of PPC marketing across many verticals and platforms using many many URLS's - for both clients of mine as well as some of my own sites. Even with split testing..... having the .com or nGTLD has proven to have zero effect in the click thru rate, the only thing that matters is the ad copy and the ad images.

Furthermore, you going on about casino.online not being able to be found on Google UNLESS they rank high for that term?... are you high or do you actually have no clue about SEO? - CasinoOnline.com won't be able to be found unless they rank high for that term either. Or are you delusional enough to think that simply having the .com somehow gives the site some sort of priority placing on search results?

I think he meant that when people come to type "casino.online" they are more likely to mis-out the "." than if the site was "casinoonline.com" - could go either way - they could also easily miss-type the "oo" as "o" in the dot-COM.

But let's not forget that in 1995 NOBODY had heard of dot-COM, but by 2000 EVERYBODY had heard of it - same goes for smart phones (zero to mass adoption was ~5 yrs) - so "people haven't heard of it" is a problem that will solve itself.

One problem "casino.online" will have, for some time, is that they will leak visitors to casinoonline.com - there can be no doubt of that - the question is what %age?

 

[Registry Services]

.mobi & .xxx are good examples. .biz never took off.

To be fair, MOBI & BIZ are simply crap and XXX is tainted for social & political reasons.

no mobile site was going to want a TLD what was longer than the dot-COM, and BIZ is just a meaningless derivative of COM.

new-GTLDs need to have a unique selling point and market to that, just being a second class dot-COM is not going to cut it.

dot-IO is a good example - successfully marketed to a high value niche - so it has now become a badge of honour for hitech startups, and at $40 a year, you don't need too many to make a decent living.

 

[dordomai]

If you actually believe that then you clearly have never done any Internet Marketing. I do alot of PPC marketing across many verticals and platforms using many many URLS's - for both clients of mine as well as some of my own sites. Even with split testing..... having the .com or nGTLD has proven to have zero effect in the click thru rate, the only thing that matters is the ad copy and the ad images.

Furthermore, you going on about casino.online not being able to be found on Google UNLESS they rank high for that term?... are you high or do you actually have no clue about SEO? - CasinoOnline.com won't be able to be found unless they rank high for that term either. Or are you delusional enough to think that simply having the .com somehow gives the site some sort of priority placing on search results?

Maybe it was not well explained.

If you actually believe that then you clearly have never done any Internet Marketing. I do alot of PPC marketing across many verticals and platforms using many many URLS's - for both clients of mine as well as some of my own sites. Even with split testing..... having the .com or nGTLD has proven to have zero effect in the click thru rate, the only thing that matters is the ad copy and the ad images.

That is not what I meant. Sure if you present people with a link in an ad they will click it. They will be able to access your word.word

but marketing is not just PPC. You have top view things from the perspective from a larger brand not from your personal view. Why?

because if you want .word.word to be popular you need large brands using them not smaller websites.

Marketing does include:

sponsorships
Tv ads
billboard ads
logos
radio
word of mouth etc.

if you use word.word for these you will run into problems. What is word.word good for if it works only for a part of your marketing campaigns?

Show people an ad with word.word on TV and I promise a lot of people do not understand it. You would have to waste time and ad space to explain it. TV ads can't do education of viewers on domain names.

If many people don't get it you are losing money vs your competition on .com, a lot of it. In a competitive environment you can't afford this.

Furthermore, you going on about casino.online not being able to be found on Google UNLESS they rank high for that term?... are you high or do you actually have no clue about SEO? - CasinoOnline.com won't be able to be found unless they rank high for that term either. Or are you delusional enough to think that simply having the .com somehow gives the site some sort of priority placing on search results?

That is not what I meant. If you enter casino.online your website will probably easily rank for that term if google understand that you are looking for an URL.

If you enter casinoonline.com you should be able to rank as well for that term.

If you brand yourself as casinoonline.com people understand that this is a domain and they enter it in Google if they don't do direct navigation and they should find you.

if you brand yourself as casino.online, again many people do not understand this. Some might think "Casino Online" and search for that if they want to find you. Of course you will not rank for that term easily and people will not find you.