various CASINO.ONLINE gTLD sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo

[RamBabuSEO]

Hi Guys,

I just got to know that CASINO.ONLINE gTLD domain sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo
sales link: https://namebio.com/casino.online

Please share your views on gTLD industries.

I think gTLD truly making its ground slowly slowly towards nice growth.

 

[Kate]

But let's not forget that in 1995 NOBODY had heard of dot-COM, but by 2000 EVERYBODY had heard of it - same goes for smart phones (zero to mass adoption was ~5 yrs) - so "people haven't heard of it" is a problem that will solve itself.

I don't think the problem will solve itself.

The problem is lack of critical mass, and lack of prominent websites, stemming from lack of demand from end users. Plus, there are so many extensions to choose from.
It's not just a question of time. If only.

Extensions become valuable as marketing tools through usage and pervasive advertising. In practice, only .com and ccTLDs attain the critical mass that is needed.

The three stages of success:

• awareness
  
• acceptance
• embrace

We are not even at stage #1...

I am now fairly confident that all new extensions will remain oddities and none will ever become mainstream.
Anybody who believes otherwise is either very optimistic or fairly delusional. IMHO.

Even .net (second largest gTLD after .com) is not mainstream.
If you ask me, I find that .net is pretty awesome compared to .net and it's been around for much longer... and everyone is more or less familiar with it. Just can't see how .online is investment-worthy when .net isn't, and of course I think the same about .web.
Again IMHO.

 

[dordomai]

I don't think the problem will solve itself.

The problem is lack of critical mass, and lack of prominent websites, stemming from lack of demand from end users. Plus, there are so many extensions to choose from.
It's not just a question of time. If only.

Extensions become valuable as marketing tools through usage and pervasive advertising. In practice, only .com and ccTLDs attain the critical mass that is needed.

The three stages of success:

• awareness
  
• acceptance
• embrace

We are not even at stage #1...

I am now fairly confident that all new extensions will remain oddities and none will ever become mainstream.
Anybody who believes otherwise is either very optimistic or fairly delusional. IMHO.

Even .net (second largest gTLD after .com) is not mainstream.
If you ask me, I find that .net is pretty awesome compared to .net and it's been around for much longer... and everyone is more or less familiar with it. Just can't see how .online is investment-worthy when .net isn't, and of course I think the same about .web.
Again IMHO.

.net is better than .online therefore .online values will be less than .net on average.

 

[deez007]

Maybe it was not well explained.



That is not what I meant. Sure if you present people with a link in an ad they will click it. They will be able to access your word.word

but marketing is not just PPC. You have top view things from the perspective from a larger brand not from your personal view. Why?

because if you want .word.word to be popular you need large brands using them not smaller websites.

Marketing does include:

sponsorships
Tv ads
billboard ads
logos
radio
word of mouth etc.

if you use word.word for these you will run into problems. What is word.word good for if it works only for a part of your marketing campaigns?

Show people an ad with word.word on TV and I promise a lot of people do not understand it. You would have to waste time and ad space to explain it. TV ads can't do education of viewers on domain names.

If many people don't get it you are losing money vs your competition on .com, a lot of it. In a competitive environment you can't afford this.



That is not what I meant. If you enter casino.online your website will probably easily rank for that term if google understand that you are looking for an URL.

If you enter casinoonline.com you should be able to rank as well for that term.

If you brand yourself as casinoonline.com people understand that this is a domain and they enter it in Google if they don't do direct navigation and they should find you.

if you brand yourself as casino.online, again many people do not understand this. Some might think "Casino Online" and search for that if they want to find you. Of course you will not rank for that term easily and people will not find you.

What you are saying is not totally incorrect but the thing is you are still basing this on many people having no clue about nGTLD so granted they would be a little confused but alot of the confusion can be alleviated by simply adding the www.casino.online - same length as casinoonline.com but doing this would make it pretty obvious that it's a URL.

Also keep in mind that many many companies still use the www in front of their .com domains when advertising.

So if we had to include the www on both these domains it would look like this:
www.casino.online VS www.casinoonline.com - Now, be totally honest here and put your bias to .com's aside.. look at both these URL's which one looks more aesthetically pleasing and do any of them not make it blatantly obvious that they are a URL?

 

[dordomai]

What you are saying is not totally incorrect but the thing is you are still basing this on many people having no clue about nGTLD so granted they would be a little confused but alot of the confusion can be alleviated by simply adding the www.casino.online - same length as casinoonline.com but doing this would make it pretty obvious that it's a URL.

Also keep in mind that many many companies still use the www in front of their .com domains when advertising.

So if we had to include the www on both these domains it would look like this:
www.casino.online VS www.casinoonline.com - Now, be totally honest here and put your bias to .com's aside.. look at both these URL's which one looks more aesthetically pleasing and do any of them not make it blatantly obvious that they are a URL?

it is better that way but still could be a problem for some. people might think www.casino.online.com
i think brand.com looks better than www.word.word. it is also easier to advertise as Brand.com vs.
www.Brand.online, www.Word.Word

sure www.casino.online does not look that bad but keep in mind that aesthetically pleasing is just one factor.

In my opinion .cc looks good but that alone won't make it popular. I think that casino.cc or even casinoonline.cc(or at least onlinecasino.cc) is better than casino.online

 

[deez007]

it is better that way but still could be a problem for some. people might think www.casino.online.com
i think brand.com looks better than www.word.word. it is also easier to advertise as Brand.com vs.
www.Brand.online, www.Word.Word

sure www.casino.online does not look that bad but keep in mind that aesthetically pleasing is just one factor.

In my opinion .cc looks good but that alone won't make it popular. I think that casino.cc or even casinoonline.cc(or at least onlinecasino.cc) is better than casino.online

Hmmm but now... something a bit off with ur above comparison ...let me show you what I mean: I'm assuming that you are saying that CasinoOnline is the brand so Brand.com but with the .online domain it does not become www.Brand.online. Essentially it becomes www.Brand or if you want to be technical then it becomes www.bra.nd

IF Casino is the actual brand then .com would be BrandOnline.com so Brand(WORD).com but the .online would be www.brand.online

 

[Recons.Com]

Radix & Sedo Confirm Record-Breaking All Cash Sale of Casino.online for Over $200,000
Here is a update from : http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/lowdown/2017/dailyposts/20170323.htm

First, question related to the poll:

- Why not to include ALL possible outcomes, including "Decline" and "Very bad decline", if you are going to put there the opposite of the spectrum.

Second, general comment about the news:

What kind of buyer pays $200K+, generates buzz that should be very welcome for future online casino site and then has a registrar parking page on it?

My bet (no pun intended) is that we won't see any project on this site, there is no buyer, Radix pulled a pr stunt that costed them sedo fees of $20K-30K range.

 

[Premiums]

Hi,

I'd like to know why Casino.Online FWD to Safenames?

Cheers.

 

[dordomai]

safenames is the registrar

 

[Recons.Com]

Hi,

I'd like to know why Casino.Online FWD to Safenames?

Cheers.

The owner thought that he should keep any asset that costs $200K in a safe. So he googled for a safe for names on the net, arrived at safenames.net and placed his domain there.

True story...

 

[slader23]

Of course reported sales are the tip of the iceberg but it applies to all other extensions, including .com. There is no reason why new gTLDs sales would be under-reported compared to other TLDs. Even sellers of .com domains have plenty of reasons to stay quiet, if only for tax purposes or lack of explicit disclosure agreement.

On the other hand, many domainers are eager to publish big sales because it raises their profile.
Ever wonder why Mann or Schwartz are making big sales ? I think one reason is that their reputation works for them: any end user approaching them knows that they are not going to sell cheap, and they must set the bar high when making an offer.
Reputation.

I'm not sure how you like to conduct business but where I'm from, the most powerful people are rarely heard of and their movements are never noticed. Reputation does not need to be publicized to the general masses, if your known in the right circles your reputation should speak for itself...no need to be pumping up your chest and telling everyone "LOOK I SOLD THIS!" or "LOOK WE BOUGHT THIS!". I'd much rather have an end user know absolutely nothing about me than have him/her have a predisposition to my style of negotiation prior to the initiation of discussions. The bigger advantage is in being unknown as they have no way of preparing for your strategy.


In terms of under-reporting, I think that it's very obvious a well developed tld like .com has exponentially more reported sales....its been around for many years and plenty of sales by default are made public. Trying to make correlations between under-reporting and real sales will never lead to an accurate judgement. Your assuming that everyone sells through the same mediums at all times i.e the big marketplaces when in reality people use just about every efficient medium of communication to sell their domains be it email, outbound marketing, by phone, twitter, social media advertising. Whether or not someone chooses to make a sale public should be treated entirely on an individual basis as each sale is in fact unique. The only clear assertions that can be made given the current state of reported ngtld sales is that:

1. Prices at the high end are increasing.
2. More discretion is taken by end users and domainers alike regarding ngtld sales in general. Privacy and anonymity play a huge role in the protection of the interests of both parties concluding a sale. This trend isn't unique to just domaining, anonymity is on the rise everywhere.

 

[Registry Services]

I don't think the problem will solve itself.
...

I agree that a lot of the newGTLDs that are basically dot-COM a-likes, like ONL, CLICK & ONLINE - i.e. "we're like dot-com, but we're not dot-com" will probably struggle for some time and may never have value, but I think dot-CLUB has demonstrated that if you target your market and sell to your USP, there are opportunities out there.

dot-IO has shown that a TLD that sells to a high value niche market can return very good income, even if the raw numbers of names isn't anywhere near dot-COM levels.

 

[Domainsyrup]

Nice sale !

Own VRcasino.online

 

[dumindu89]

it is better that way but still could be a problem for some. people might think www.casino.online.com
i think brand.com looks better than www.word.word. it is also easier to advertise as Brand.com vs.
www.Brand.online, www.Word.Word

sure www.casino.online does not look that bad but keep in mind that aesthetically pleasing is just one factor.

In my opinion .cc looks good but that alone won't make it popular. I think that casino.cc or even casinoonline.cc(or at least onlinecasino.cc) is better than casino.online

You are an old, outdated person. You are used to .com
But new generation will get used to the new trend. Think about the future not about the present.

 

[dordomai]

You are an old, outdated person. You are used to .com
But new generation will get used to the new trend. Think about the future not about the present.

what is the domain ending of the website you are visiting? you are visiting old outdated sites.

 

[Kate]

You are an old, outdated person. You are used to .com
But new generation will get used to the new trend. Think about the future not about the present.

Seriously ? We heard that so many times, the new generation will embrace new extensions like it's going to magically happen. It's wishful thinking. You don't try to predict the future while discarding the present.
Peddlers of new extensions do not even take their own medicine: there are few who would run a real-life business on a new extension.

 

[dumindu89]

what is the domain ending of the website you are visiting? you are visiting old outdated sites.

Again. You are talking about the present. Not the future. This web site is established long time ago before nTLDs are introduced. Don't make ridiculous points.

The majority of start up companies will use nTLDs. .COM is now saturated. For an example Casino.com is already taken and developed.
Competitors and new comers have to go for the next best options such as casino.online online.casino etc. and its seems it's already happening with this sale.

 

[dumindu89]

Seriously ? We heard that so many times, the new generation will embrace new extensions like it's going to magically happen. It's wishful thinking. You don't try to predict the future while discarding the present.
Peddlers of new extensions do not even take their own medicine: there are few who would run a real-life business on a new extension.

I can find 1.9 million+ web pages for .SHOP extension, 400000+ webpages for .RESTAURANT extension, 394000+ webpages for .UNIVERSITY extension, 70000+ web pages for .LIMITED extension, 89000+ web pages for expensive .PHARMACY extension, 100,000+ web pages for very expensive .CAR extension, 45,000 web pages for very expensive .CARS extension, 36000+ web pages for .BANK extension, 16000+ results for .HOLDINGS extension in Google.

Is that a few?
I just mentioned a few of business related nTLD extensions without mentioning the biggest players in nTLDs.

 

[Kate]

site:*.tk
About 59.200.000 results (0,39 seconds)

What's wrong with this figure ? Nothing, it's just that people don't visit .tk sites and don't care.
Does that mean .tk is successful ? No.
Does that mean there is a lot of quality developed websites ? No.
Does that mean .tk is viable for a business ? No.
Does that mean .tk is investment-grade ? No.

The majority of start up companies will use nTLDs.

Wishful thinking.

.COM is now saturated.

That's what they were saying in 1996. No kidding. All the good names were already taken.

Competitors and new comers have to go for the next best options such as casino.online online.casino etc. and its seems it's already happening with this sale.

The next best option is a longer .com, a creative name, a brandable, a ccTLD (your own or a repurposed TLD like .io), or buying a name on the aftermarket, among other options. It's always been like that. Nobody will seriously argue that casino.online is as good and desirable as casino.com.

End users should have been flocking to new extensions if what you're saying is true.

 

[garptrader]

True the best keywords in .COM were taken a long time ago. Low-budget end users may opt for shorter keywords in new TLDs which they can acquire for $100 or less. That does not make new TLDs with premium renewals an attractive investment. Could that change in the next five to ten years? Yes, I do believe that domain names are underappreciated form of promoting a business' products and services. Compare the cost of a typical aftermarket domain high $XXX to mid-$XXXX versus tv, print or Google Adword campaigns. But until marketers view it that way, domain investors are at the bottom of the food chain.

 

[dumindu89]

site:*.tk
About 59.200.000 results (0,39 seconds)

What's wrong with this figure ? Nothing, it's just that people don't visit .tk sites and don't care.
Does that mean .tk is successful ? No.
Does that mean there is a lot of quality developed websites ? No.
Does that mean .tk is viable for a business ? No.
Does that mean .tk is investment-grade ? No.

Who told that .TK is a nTLD? You are a real joker.

Wishful thinking.

No wishful thinking. Companies already built websites on nTLDs. Companies never want to build their business sites on crappy TLDs like .TK.
Instead they use Business related TLDs such as .SHOP, .STORE, .RESTAURANT, .CARS, .CAR, .BANK, .PHARMACY, .LIMITED, ,HOLDINGS etc.
If you still don't know whether there are no businesses using nTLDs, do a google search and find.

The next best option is a longer .com, a creative name, a brandable, a ccTLD (your own or a repurposed TLD like .io), or buying a name on the aftermarket, among other options.

That's why this buyer paid more than $200,000 for the casino.online instead of casinoonline.com or similar longer .com extension or ccTLD by proving your point.

 

[ilesanmion]

Who told that .TK is a nTLD? You are a real joker.



No wishful thinking. Companies already built websites on nTLDs. Companies never want to build their business sites on crappy TLDs like .TK.
Instead they use Business related TLDs such as .SHOP, .STORE, .RESTAURANT, .CARS, .CAR, .BANK, .PHARMACY, .LIMITED, ,HOLDINGS etc.
If you still don't know whether there are no businesses using nTLDs, do a google search and find.


That's why this buyer paid more than $200,000 for the casino.online instead of casinoonline.com orG similar longer .com extension or ccTLD by proving your point.

Good comment. I have echeck.online
on flippa auction without reserve price.

 

[atinc]

Even in a thread where the topic is
CASINO.ONLINE gTLD sold for $201,250
there are .Com fanatics trying to discredit new G`s..
There is no point to argue, just scroll up and see, at what topic you are commenting on.

 

[atinc]

Plus results speaks itself. Majority thinks that there will be growth... no matter small medium or large growth.
Growth is a growth when you consider people vote on this thread knowing CASINO.ONLINE gTLD sold for $201,250.

 

[amcgrath342]

waooo
gTLD is growing

 

[RamBabuSEO]

I respect .com and but gTLD is new in the industry , and it shouldn't be treated unfair by .com legacy people. We all are seeing somehow gTLD growing as slow as this industry is being understood the benefits of such extension vs .Com in the market.