I lost $5805usd through PayPal scam by Shane Bellone

[12no3]

Many of my friend suggested me to post this on namepros so others will less likely to be scamed by shane.

So on 2016-09-26 and 2016-09-27 he bought 374 cvcv.in names and 471 cvcv.in names all together 845 .in names together. (these are random cvcv.in)
together he paid me on paypal 5805 usd.

I pushed the domain to him, then everything is fine. the deal was made through whatsapp chat.
deal closed.
then I saw him selling them on .in markect group, flipped some for higher price.

until 27the decenmber when i log in to my paypal to make another purchase, i see paypal refunded 5805 back to him, then i look up my email, i saw paypal disput which i completed missed.
buyer claim reason: NOT AS DESCRIBED! (this is after he sold and transfer out some of those)

I did not know paypal had this 3 months rules where buyer can claim the money back, and becuase i do not log on paypal so often and get xxx amount of emails every days, so i missed the window that i could have argued with paypal. but well lesson learned.

Some infomation of shane so other can avoid being scamed by him
http://this_username_was_banned.com/
http://www.domainsherpa.com/shane-bellone-itmagazine-interview/
http://tldinvestors.com/2016/05/shane-bellone-saying-goodbye-to-domaining.html
http://omarandwill.com/interview-with-the-expert-volume-2-featuring-shane-bellone/
https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/10154332611129273
https://www.linkedin.com/in/this_username_was_banned
https://twitter.com/this_username_was_banned


good news is after I provided all the evidence to the registrar, the registrar moved the remaining (ones he did not sold or transfer out) to my account, so at least i got something back.

Becuareful when using paypal,and becuareful when you trade any domain that was processed by shane.

During the process of getting the unsold domains by shane, I had great help from .in whatsapp group, so special thx who provide information and also special thx to shiva , kemji, alexa and indy who tried to contact shane for me, but he went dark, not picking his cell phone, does not respond back on whatsapp nor linkedin.

 

[WGS_Thunder]

Maybe S-B should be in DNJail too ?

 

[FX]

No offence Addison. But what the heck do you know?

Most pros are not active on Namepros and 99% of the people wearing the pro badge does not live up to the "stated requirements". Its just a boys club, like the investment groups. You vote in the people you want.

true...why would anyone want a pro badge?

show me the confirmed $xxx,xxx sales badge.. I'll join then

disappointing about Shane.. I did like the kid.

 

[Domain Shane]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

 

[WGS_Thunder]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

Maybe he will suffer the consequences of his wishes

The Rule of Three (also Three-fold Law or Law of Return) is a religious tenet held by some Wiccans/Pagans. It states that whatever energy a person puts out into the world, be it positive or negative, will be returned to that person three times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Three_(Wicca)

 

[creataweb]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

 

[mad409]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

What brought that on?

 

[carob]

Maybe the S-B username was a hint - try replacing the "-" with "o".

 

[arjun29]

Stay way from shane and people defending him.
A New Lession.

 

[ngenme]

why do you put $5k at paypal? That's insane.

If anything have your family have paypal account. Some accounts just for paying. Some account just for receiving money.

 

[ngenme]

And if this guy uses a real name have you contacted the cops already? It seems that you're not the only one being scammed.

 

[Chris Wright]

The name of this forum is NamePros. When certain members are appointed with name[PRO]s badges (with a font that incidentally has a similar red color tone as the NP logo), they come across as the titular pros of the namepros forum, and it looks like they are some kind of endorsed industry professionals or representatives of the forum. It’s a position that can be exploited as it provides a veneer of legitimacy to holders, particularly in the eyes of newbies, users who only visit the forum infrequently and outsiders. Moreover, why NP wants to encourage such hierarchization among members is beyond me.

Anyhow, the relatively low requirements for attaining a PRO badge ($50K in sales) enables many less-than-pro members to get one (you just have to apply if you fulfil the requirements), and Shane Bellone's apparent misconduct is certainly not the first time a namePRO badge holder has been embroiled in this kind thing, and there was another "scandal" involving another namePRO not too long ago as well, and it surely won't be the last time we see one of the namePROs being decidedly unprofessional (of course there are many pro badge holders who are domain investing professionals in every sense of the word as well).

But most of the members around here who I personally find to be really knowledgeable about domain names, and who clearly are real professionals in terms of how they go about their business, don't have pro badges. So it's certainly not an accurate indicator in general of who is a real pro among the NP user base. Rather it's just an indicator of who felt the need to apply for a shiny badge, and unfortunately it seems evident that many of those who have applied for one did not exactly have the best of intentions in mind in terms of how they were planning to use the "NP endorsement of PROfessionalism" that such a badge projects.

The badges and designations have their value. But fraud is going to happen online and offline. Badges and ratings won't stop it. If you are doing $5k+ worth of business, it's beyond the reach of a forum rating, isn't it? Even if you know someone personally, they could still rip you off.

why do you put $5k at paypal? That's insane.

If anything have your family have paypal account. Some accounts just for paying. Some account just for receiving money.

That's been beaten to death already. Read previous posts...

 

[NPer]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

At least we have "his side of the story" now. :D

Personally I think he is liable for the FULL $5.8k, and definitely not a pro-rata settlement as others have mentioned. He wasn't forced to make a deal with the seller, so the seller could've easily made a deal with someone else that time. A deal is a deal!

Now there are people in this thread (quite a few) who were involved in shady dealings in 2015/2016 where they placed bids and never paid, shill bidding, pumping/dumping, you name it, and now they are here pretending to be angels-pffffft give me a break! That's the weird thing staring us right in the face in this thread, and they know who they are. No need for the holier-than-thou attitude. Screwing a seller is wrong: when you dispute a payment, AND when you don't pay. All this talk of a Pro badge: doesn't mean that you don't have a badge, that you don't need to pay! Y'all know who you are.

Anyway, Shane should make right with the seller- pay the FULL $5.8K and a bit more for the hassles he caused.

 

[Chris Wright]

Maybe we should have a reputation score right below our avatars...

Maybe a rich domainer can create a new forum where we have to be vetted just to be a member...

Maybe someone should buy the wreckage of the *other forum* and resurrect it with higher standards of professionalism...

 

[LucidDomains]

It seems S-B's articles and interviews are dropping like flies....these are resolving to 404 pages..

http://www.domainsherpa.com/shane-bellone-itmagazine-interview
http://www.domaininvesting.com/shane-bellone-launches-fish-stick
http://tldinvestors.com/2016/05/shane-bellone-saying-goodbye-to-domaining.html
http://omarandwill.com/interview-with-the-expert-volume-2-featuring-shane-bellone

I think the industry has made a decision, anyone here still supporting S-B just out of curiosity?

 

[LucidDomains]

It looks like S-B's decided to play pool with all his friends...

 

[Julio]

Looks like a FAIL of a party!

 

[isankett]

Thanks for sharing.
Alright so what is the best and safest mode to deal the transaction?

 

[gilescoley]

Personally I think he is liable for the FULL $5.8k, and definitely not a pro-rata settlement as others have mentioned. He wasn't forced to make a deal with the seller, so the seller could've easily made a deal with someone else that time. A deal is a deal!

Now there are people in this thread (quite a few) who were involved in shady dealings in 2015/2016 where they placed bids and never paid, shill bidding, pumping/dumping, you name it, and now they are here pretending to be angels-pffffft give me a break! That's the weird thing staring us right in the face in this thread, and they know who they are. No need for the holier-than-thou attitude. Screwing a seller is wrong: when you dispute a payment, AND when you don't pay. All this talk of a Pro badge: doesn't mean that you don't have a badge, that you don't need to pay! Y'all know who you are.

Well said, Im not sure why the "PRO" badge thing even came up, its ridiculous and totally irrelevant. A crook is a crook, it doesn't matter who you are or what badge/status you have on a forum. If you make a decision and realize its the wrong decision and its going to cost you, you take it on the chin and move on, lesson learnt! (hopefully )

 

[Chris Wright]

Thanks for sharing.
Alright so what is the best and safest mode to deal the transaction?

Try the escrow services of:

Afternic
Epik.com
GoDaddy

 

[Jv1999]

Stay way from shane and people defending him.
A New Lession.

But that includes DVP

 

[wwwweb]

At least we have "his side of the story" now. :D

Personally I think he is liable for the FULL $5.8k, and definitely not a pro-rata settlement as others have mentioned. He wasn't forced to make a deal with the seller, so the seller could've easily made a deal with someone else that time. A deal is a deal!

Now there are people in this thread (quite a few) who were involved in shady dealings in 2015/2016 where they placed bids and never paid, shill bidding, pumping/dumping, you name it, and now they are here pretending to be angels-pffffft give me a break! That's the weird thing staring us right in the face in this thread, and they know who they are. No need for the holier-than-thou attitude. Screwing a seller is wrong: when you dispute a payment, AND when you don't pay. All this talk of a Pro badge: doesn't mean that you don't have a badge, that you don't need to pay! Y'all know who you are.

Anyway, Shane should make right with the seller- pay the FULL $5.8K and a bit more for the hassles he caused.

Hey, if you know people are shill bidding and committing fraud call them out, don't just throw out assumptions, you are only creating ill will for the namepros brand. Otherwise report it to Eric he is good about making sure these people are booted.

Why have these flippa power brokers doing this fly by night scenario, come in, hype everyone up, then exit? I don't know what's up?

Eveyone thinks domaining is easy, well it's not you need a strong portfolio, you need to know how to negotiate, and you got to be honest, along with some serious capital.

Anyone can get lucky with a one hit deal, but that money is quickly spent in the aftermarket on virtual paper weights.

But, if you knew people were shill bidding, and you kept quiet about it, you not only let it happen, you enabled them as well.

 

[deez007]

Hmm so has anyone been able to confirm yet if NP username: BuyPolar is also Shane B?

I saw it mentioned here on a previous comment....surely that needs to be looked into?

Edit: I see BuyPolar has been banned as well

 

[Jv1999]

It seems S-B's articles and interviews are dropping like flies....these are resolving to 404 pages..

http://www.domainsherpa.com/shane-bellone-itmagazine-interview
http://www.domaininvesting.com/shane-bellone-launches-fish-stick
http://tldinvestors.com/2016/05/shane-bellone-saying-goodbye-to-domaining.html
http://omarandwill.com/interview-with-the-expert-volume-2-featuring-shane-bellone

I think the industry has made a decision, anyone here still supporting S-B just out of curiosity?

TBH, that makes the domaining industry bad, not Shane. Kinda makes everyone look shady. I mean when the BBC guy turned out to be pedo, major news stations didn't 404 their past interviews.

But here, the most reputable domaining groups are sweeping Shane under the rug and unprofessionally wiping him from history. Seems pretty low.

 

[ngenme]

http://www.como.gov/police/crime/crime-reporting/ I can't report crimes that happen to someone else. It looks like cops are not interested

 

[deez007]

TBH, that makes the domaining industry bad, not Shane. Kinda makes everyone look shady. I mean when the BBC guy turned out to be pedo, major news stations didn't 404 their past interviews.

But here, the most reputable domaining groups are sweeping Shane under the rug and unprofessionally wiping him from history. Seems pretty low.

I understand what you mean but I think it's also a case of protecting their brand, I mean like when Tiger Woods took a nose dive with all the drama he was going through...all his sponsors got out quickly and ditched his @ss because they didn't want their brand associated with him and because they previously put him on a pedestal. I guess it's a similar situation here, they have taken down the articles to show that they also don't want to be associated with a scammer. I mean if they left the articles to be live then people searching Shane B would assume that they are "in his corner" because the interviews and articles speak highly of him...I don't blame them at all for removing the articles.