I lost $5805usd through PayPal scam by Shane Bellone

[12no3]

Many of my friend suggested me to post this on namepros so others will less likely to be scamed by shane.

So on 2016-09-26 and 2016-09-27 he bought 374 cvcv.in names and 471 cvcv.in names all together 845 .in names together. (these are random cvcv.in)
together he paid me on paypal 5805 usd.

I pushed the domain to him, then everything is fine. the deal was made through whatsapp chat.
deal closed.
then I saw him selling them on .in markect group, flipped some for higher price.

until 27the decenmber when i log in to my paypal to make another purchase, i see paypal refunded 5805 back to him, then i look up my email, i saw paypal disput which i completed missed.
buyer claim reason: NOT AS DESCRIBED! (this is after he sold and transfer out some of those)

I did not know paypal had this 3 months rules where buyer can claim the money back, and becuase i do not log on paypal so often and get xxx amount of emails every days, so i missed the window that i could have argued with paypal. but well lesson learned.

Some infomation of shane so other can avoid being scamed by him
http://this_username_was_banned.com/
http://www.domainsherpa.com/shane-bellone-itmagazine-interview/
http://tldinvestors.com/2016/05/shane-bellone-saying-goodbye-to-domaining.html
http://omarandwill.com/interview-with-the-expert-volume-2-featuring-shane-bellone/
https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/10154332611129273
https://www.linkedin.com/in/this_username_was_banned
https://twitter.com/this_username_was_banned


good news is after I provided all the evidence to the registrar, the registrar moved the remaining (ones he did not sold or transfer out) to my account, so at least i got something back.

Becuareful when using paypal,and becuareful when you trade any domain that was processed by shane.

During the process of getting the unsold domains by shane, I had great help from .in whatsapp group, so special thx who provide information and also special thx to shiva , kemji, alexa and indy who tried to contact shane for me, but he went dark, not picking his cell phone, does not respond back on whatsapp nor linkedin.

 

[DomainGist]

And then offer you a juicy job in banking or politics.

That's only if you have a rich daddy.

 

[Domain Classics]

Is it actually his real name then or not?

What's the point in doing a masters or phd when you finish and any prospective employer is going to google your name

If he has been smart and used a fake name then I guess that doesn't apply.

Something tells me that's his real name. I don't think this was premeditated, he went in for quick deal, which turned sour and his character or lack there of made him do wrong thing. Freaking money, turns us into monsters.

Again, this is just speculation. I may be slandering an honest man, Mr. Shane B. If I am, I apologize. As things stand now, that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[Arca]

Why are so many people taking this 'pro' status thing so seriously, its just a flipping tag on some forum, it isn't some sort of regulatory approval

In fact why does anybody take domaining seriously to any extent. Its just a bunch of people sticking hooks in the water hoping that a big fish will bite one day.

The name of this forum is NamePros. When certain members are appointed with name[PRO]s badges (with a font that incidentally has a similar red color tone as the NP logo), they come across as the titular pros of the namepros forum, and it looks like they are some kind of endorsed industry professionals or representatives of the forum. It’s a position that can be exploited as it provides a veneer of legitimacy to holders, particularly in the eyes of newbies, users who only visit the forum infrequently and outsiders. Moreover, why NP wants to encourage such hierarchization among members is beyond me.

Anyhow, the relatively low requirements for attaining a PRO badge ($50K in sales) enables many less-than-pro members to get one (you just have to apply if you fulfil the requirements), and Shane Bellone's apparent misconduct is certainly not the first time a namePRO badge holder has been embroiled in this kind thing, and there was another "scandal" involving another namePRO not too long ago as well, and it surely won't be the last time we see one of the namePROs being decidedly unprofessional (of course there are many pro badge holders who are domain investing professionals in every sense of the word as well).

But most of the members around here who I personally find to be really knowledgeable about domain names, and who clearly are real professionals in terms of how they go about their business, don't have pro badges. So it's certainly not an accurate indicator in general of who is a real pro among the NP user base. Rather it's just an indicator of who felt the need to apply for a shiny badge, and unfortunately it seems evident that many of those who have applied for one did not exactly have the best of intentions in mind in terms of how they were planning to use the "NP endorsement of PROfessionalism" that such a badge projects.

 

[sofiapartner]

Why are so many people taking this 'pro' status thing so seriously, its just a flipping tag on some forum, it isn't some sort of regulatory approval

In fact why does anybody take domaining seriously to any extent. Its just a bunch of people sticking hooks in the water hoping that a big fish will bite one day.

Money.

 

[Omar Negron]

Just got a comment on my website about this in regards to our interview #2 which featured Shane.

http://omarandwill.com/interview-with-the-expert-volume-2-featuring-shane-bellone/

Going to look further into this but just letting you all know, I have taken this interview down. This is a long thread but thanks for updated me on this so I could remove it from my blog.

Thanks.

-Omar

 

[dordomai]

Money.

I think that 15 years ago there were few opportunities like domaining. Today there are much better ones elsewhere I guess. Some will succeed even starting today but not many.

It takes a lot of effort, time and perhaps money to succeed and if you have all these maybe there are better options where you can invest your efforts.

if you enjoy it and it's profitable that's another story but if you view it purely as an opportunity I would also consider looking elsewhere.

It's well possible that fortunes are still to be made - who knows the future? - but things are harder than they seem in retrospect.

The churn rate is high. We hear about success stories and then a lot of these people drop out or disappear. There is a reason for that.

 

[barefooted]

Did you check the WHOIS of those domains? All but one are registered by two Chinese people, with Indian email and US city, which obviously is fake and against the TOS. All nameserves are pointed to UNIREGISTRYMARKET. The only difference is that 42 transferred domains have new registrar - Wild West Domains and 2018 as expiration date.
Is it common practice for buyer to leave the old WHOIS info?

 

[dordomai]

maybe a part of this story was that Shane somehow felt tricked by the broker and thought there was some kind of collusion going on between the broker and the seller.

Seems unlikely that this really happened as the seller turned out to be very well established.

Did you check the WHOIS of those domains? All but one are registered by two Chinese people, with Indian email and US city, which obviously is fake and against the TOS. All nameserves are pointed to UNIREGISTRYMARKET. The only difference is that 42 transferred domains have new registrar - Wild West Domains and 2018 as expiration date.
Is it common practice for buyer to leave the old WHOIS info?

Nameserver is left very often unchanged. Godaddy and Enom and at least some others will copy WHOIS from previous registrant.

 

[promo]

Is it common practice for buyer to leave the old WHOIS info?

Its common for sure. I would say that more than 50% of my buyers need a reminder about updating whois post sale. I even have an org that 9 years later STILL has not removed me as admin contact. Thats after contacts in year 1, 3 and 7.

 

[Addison]

What does it mean when Adam Dicker has a better account standing than duo Shane Bellone and David Walker?

IMO, it means stay away.

My next question is where did Mr. Bellone's PROness go? Did he switch to a PRINcess?

(I'm just here for the likes)

 

[WGS_Thunder]

Maybe S-B should be in DNJail too ?

 

[FX]

No offence Addison. But what the heck do you know?

Most pros are not active on Namepros and 99% of the people wearing the pro badge does not live up to the "stated requirements". Its just a boys club, like the investment groups. You vote in the people you want.

true...why would anyone want a pro badge?

show me the confirmed $xxx,xxx sales badge.. I'll join then

disappointing about Shane.. I did like the kid.

 

[Domain Shane]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

 

[WGS_Thunder]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

Maybe he will suffer the consequences of his wishes

The Rule of Three (also Three-fold Law or Law of Return) is a religious tenet held by some Wiccans/Pagans. It states that whatever energy a person puts out into the world, be it positive or negative, will be returned to that person three times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Three_(Wicca)

 

[creataweb]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

 

[mad409]

He didn't have time to respond to any of your comments or concerns but he took to the time a few days ago to hope my house burns down and call me a pu$$y and a tw@t on twitter in the pic below. I would be concerned if he wasn't right I am a lot of things at least I'm not a thief or a liar.

What brought that on?

 

[carob]

Maybe the S-B username was a hint - try replacing the "-" with "o".

 

[arjun29]

Stay way from shane and people defending him.
A New Lession.

 

[ngenme]

why do you put $5k at paypal? That's insane.

If anything have your family have paypal account. Some accounts just for paying. Some account just for receiving money.

 

[ngenme]

And if this guy uses a real name have you contacted the cops already? It seems that you're not the only one being scammed.