STATE OF THE NEW G'S

[Internet.Domains]

The current STATE OF THE NEW G'S is good!...or is it?

After nearly 3 years into the introduction of New G's there remains:
* Very low 'End User' usage
* Very little aftermarket activity
* Declining inquiries
* Inconsistent registry changes affecting drops, renewals and pricing
* Little to none public awareness

In conclusion, the current STATE OF THE NEW G'S is not good.

(Disclaimer: I am a proponent and investor of New G's, but I tend to have a REALIST view of things)

 

[Bram C.]

You did not make that clear in your argument, you said "By your logic ride.horse should be comparable to ride.com", so don't try to twist things. I'm discrediting you because your argument did not make any sense because a fair comparison cannot be be made with word.word compared to word.com. You've only just conceded your failure by trying to explain something that is extremely obvious.

Of course that makes sense, thats the entire value propostion for ngtlds.

Not sure what your point is. Deez was comparing business.global to business.com and I told him it made zero sense to do so. And you agree that it makes zero sense so what are we talking about?

 

[dordomai]

In the US most people automatically type .com.
Regarding ccTLDs you're correct. But then those people will type the ccTLDs automatically. I live in Belgium and we have .be here. If someone asks me to go to the website "feest vieren" I will probably go to feestvieren.be. If someone from the US woudl ask me that same question I would go to feestvieren.com.
It's impossible to type a new gTDL automatically obviously. You would always need to say what's after the dot.

the problem is that when you want to tell a non-tech person about your nGTLD website you will have to spend 5 minutes to explain them what it is and how they need to type it and they will probably still forget it after a few days. Giant waste of advertising money.

 

[Bram C.]

Well I'm in the U.S. and you're not therefore I don't see that happening...

I lived in the US for 2 years.

 

[deez007]

You're right, whether or not what is the better deal is not up to me or you to decide. Make a poll and let the majority decide.

Again, that doesn't mean anything... even if the majority says it was a bad deal. Doesn't matter.. all that matters is that the person buying the domain is happy with the price he paid for the domain. He/she was willing to pay $25 000 because he/she wanted the domain. If they are happy with their purchase then it was a good deal. Irrespective of what anyone says.... The domain was worth that much to them, maybe they would have even paid more...who knows.

 

[mad409]

the problem is that when you want to tell a non-tech person about your nGTLD website you will have to spend 5 minutes to explain them what it is and how they need to type it and they will probably still forget it after a few days. Giant waste of advertising money.

And again your opinion only, people are not stupid...

 

[slader23]

Not sure what your point is. Deez was comparing business.global to business.com and I told him it made zero sense to do so. And you agree that it makes zero sense so what are we talking about?

Deez was comparing the acquisition costs+renewals to show which was the more economical investment to an enduser, not comparing the actual value of each name in comparison to each other, he even went and noted the date of the Business.com acquisition(1997) so as to not confuse people because that name today would fetch an absolute fortune.

Business.com is worth 7-8 figures today, no question about it. Business.Global is priced at a fair market value and priced higher than its .com equivalent because its a better name. Personally I think its worth $15-30k.

 

[deez007]

Deez was comparing the acquisition costs+renewals to show which was the more economical investment to an enduser, not comparing the actual value of each name in comparison to each other, he even went and noted the date of the Business.com acquisition(1997) so as to not confuse people because that name today would fetch an absolute fortune.

Business.com is worth 7-8 figures today, no question about it. Business.Global is priced at a fair market value and priced higher than its .com equivalent because its a better name. Personally I think its worth $15-30k.

Thanks for pointing that out.... I was sitting here thinking aah man, do I really need to explain all of this? ... then luckily I saw ur reply and it explained it perfectly... hahahah

 

[dordomai]

And again your opinion only, people are not stupid...

many people don't care about technology...

 

[slader23]

many people don't care about technology...

YEAR OF UPLOAD---->2009....

 

[Bram C.]

Deez was comparing the acquisition costs+renewals to show which was the more economical investment to an enduser, not comparing the actual value of each name in comparison to each other, he even went and noted the date of the Business.com acquisition(1997) so as to not confuse people because that name today would fetch an absolute fortune.

Business.com is worth 7-8 figures today, no question about it. Business.Global is priced at a fair market value and priced higher than its .com equivalent because its a better name. Personally I think its worth $15-30k.

He was comparing the 2 domains and we both agreed (me and you) they are not comparable.

This is what you said:

a fair comparison cannot be be made with word.word compared to word.com

And now you are posting Deez his earlier comparison as if it makes sudden sense? lol

 

[dordomai]

YEAR OF UPLOAD---->2009....

it's not better today. Ask a tech support person.

For what it is worth, here is my personal end user experience with .tech

When the .tech extension first came out I was excited. Being a computer programmer, and getting my first computer back in 1989 at age 7 (IBM XT 8088 with a green monochrome screen) – I jumped on to my registrar and “pre-reserved” a pile of them. When the registry finally released the extension I was disappointed to see I missed the majority of them during pre-registration or the registry deciding they were premium.

In the end I picked up a couple, and as a IT person I registered one to use as my professional business site and email. It is short, easy to remember (I thought) and perfectly described my services.

To my disappointment – reality set in quickly. Whenever speaking to a client in person or on the phone I have found it is very difficult for them to understand the domain.

“is that .tec?”
“I sent you an email and I never received response.” (in the end I find out they were sending to .pech )
“what?"
“so that is ####.tech.com?”

I find myself needing to explain my address to each person I give it to. “My email is ### at ####.tech. That is T-E-C-H. T as in Technician or Technology. Dot Tech. There is no dot com after dot tech. That is just like the dot COM but it is dot TECH.” And then they say oooooohhhk. I think I got it.

If you look on NameBio you will see that .tech is not available from their drop down. I contacted them and they say that dropdown is dynamically filled out so as soon as there is a reported sale over $100 then it will show up.

For this reason I do not believe this extension will ever make it, sadly.

the nGTLDs will not become popular fast enough because people don't respond well to them. If they don't make it within a few years, maybe 5 they will be considered failed and never gain any meaningful traction.

we are already 3 years into the program, if something doesn't happen soon, it will never happen IMO.

 

[slader23]

He was comparing the 2 domains and we both agreed (me and you) they are not comparable.

This is what you said:

And now you are posting Deez his earlier comparison as if it makes sudden sense? lol

Clearly you've either misinterpreted what @deez007 was explaining in his earlier or are just choosing to feign ignorance. The purpose and parameters for that comparison have already been outlined by him and even reiterated by me so as to not cause confusion. His initial comparison of Business.Global VS Business.com was a COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS and his later comparision of BusinessGlobal.com VS Business.Global was a pure valuation analysis. There is a big difference between the two, I hope you've realized that by now.

 

[slader23]

it's not better today. Ask a tech support person.

Top post from that video.

 

[mad409]

it's not better today. Ask a tech support person.

You're rattling, posting old videos, telling us to talk to what tech support person? Come on, same debate new thread...

You don't like new G's I get it...

 

[deez007]

Clearly you've either misinterpreted what @deez007 was explaining in his earlier or are just choosing to feign ignorance. The purpose and parameters for that comparison have already been outlined by him and even reiterated by me so as to not cause confusion. His initial comparison of Business.Global VS Business.com was a COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS and his later comparision of BusinessGlobal.com VS Business.Global was a pure valuation analysis. There is a big difference between the two, I hope you've realized that by now.

Lol.. It seems the lights are on but no one is home.

 

[Bram C.]

His initial comparison of Business.Global VS Business.com was a COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS and his later comparision of BusinessGlobal.com VS Business.Global was a pure valuation analysis. There is a big difference between the two, I hope you've realized that by now.

Yes I understand what a cost benefit analysis is. I don't see it as that (the only thing Deez did was write down the acquisition/renewal costs of 2 unrelated domains, which is not a cost/benefit analysis at all. It may be cost analysis, it's definitely not a benefit analysis ) but in any case it made no sense to compare it to business.com. Why not make an actual cost/benefit analysis between business.global and businessglobal.com instead?

 

[deez007]

Yes I understand what a cost benefit analysis is. I don't see it as that (the only thing Deez did was write down the acquisition/renewal costs of 2 unrelated domains, which is not a cost/benefit analysis at all. Not even a simplified version of it) but in any case it made no sense to compare it to business.com. Why not make a cost/benefit analysis between business.global and businessglobal.com instead?

- I give up. This argument is no longer worth the time nor energy

 

[Bram C.]

- I give up. This argument is no longer worth the time nor energy

You do that. I'm eager to see your next "cost/benefit analysis" dude!

 

[slader23]

Yes I understand what a cost benefit analysis is. I don't see it as that (the only thing Deez did was write down the acquisition/renewal costs of 2 unrelated domains, which is not a cost/benefit analysis at all. Not even a simplified version of it) but in any case it made no sense to compare it to business.com. Why not make a cost/benefit analysis between business.global and businessglobal.com instead?

Ok. Now your saying that his cost benefit analysis, is not a cost benefit analysis....well lets see...he compared the costs and benefits of acquiring both names and then explained why one was more economical than the other, never saying which name was more valuable. I think thats about as simple as it gets. From here there is no point in making additional analysis because his point has already been made, which is why he went forward with a valuation analysis between word.word vs word+word.com.

His actual findings are as follows:

1.Word.Word is more economical to own than word.com
and
2. Word.Word is better/more valuable/increasingly more desirable than word+word.com


Two very simple points. I hope you understand now. If not.....well....good luck.

 

[mad409]

- I give up. This is argument is no longer worth the time nor energy

It happens in every new G related thread, like a bunch of cats marking their territory rather than a logical debate.

 

[dordomai]

from 2015

https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromc...t_web_browser_are_you_using_i_dont_know_what/

I work in a call center for an Internet retailer (they traditionally do not have brick and mortar stores).

When guiding customers to their account I tell them to enter the web address in the browser's address bar. More often than not I am met with silence. Followed by the question "What's that?".

What is a nGTLD??? Dot What? Business.global.com ???

Good luck advertising any of these new URLs...

 

[Bram C.]

Ok. Now your saying that his cost benefit analysis, is not a cost benefit analysis....well lets see...he compared the costs and benefits of acquiring both names and then explained why one was more economical than the other, never saying which name was more valuable. I think thats about as simple as it gets. From here there is no point in making additional analysis because his point has already been made, which is why he went forward with a valuation analysis between word.word vs word+word.com.

His actual findings are as follows:

1.Word.Word is more economical to own than word.com
and
2. Word.Word is better/more valuable/increasingly more desirable than word+word.com


Two very simple points. I hope you understand now.

So because he compared the costs of a super premium one-word .com domain with a domain such as business.global his findings are that
1.Word.Word is more economical to own than word.com
and
2. Word.Word is better/more valuable/increasingly more desirable than word+word.com

Here's my answer to
1/ Duh? Does anyone need to include sales to state this obvious fact?

2/ So that is his conclusion based on comparing a grand total of 2 domains? What if I would tell you I could show you many sales where word+word.com got sold for more than word.word? Could that amazing scenario even be possible? And wouldn't that make my findings contradict his, basically that word+word.com is better/more valuable than word.word?

 

[mad409]

from 2015

https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromc...t_web_browser_are_you_using_i_dont_know_what/



What is a nGTLD??? Dot What? Business.global.com ???

Good luck advertising any of these new URLs...

I hang up on call centers too because I can't understand what the f they're saying. Speak better English! LOL

 

[Anil Joshi]

Thanks to all. Very useful discussions. Does anyone have information on Dot .Digital Domain sales so far? (till Jan. 15, 2017)

 

[slader23]

So because he compared the costs of a super premium one-word .com domain with a domain such as business.global his findings are that
1.Word.Word is more economical to own than word.com
and
2. Word.Word is better/more valuable/increasingly more desirable than word+word.com

Here's my answer to
1/ Duh? Does anyone need to include sales to state this obvious fact?

2/ So that is his conclusion based on comparing a grand total of 2 domains? What if I would tell you I could show you many sales where word+word.com got sold for more than word.word? Could that amazing scenario even be possible? And wouldn't that make my findings contradict his, basically that word+word.com is better/more valuable than word.word?

There has already been a thread comparing the word+word is more valuable in .com, I suggest you go find it, you'll be either pleasantly surprised or completely dejected by the findings.