Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

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This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
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  • Update: Unresolved
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From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[D. Wells]

That you're coming out here to label that comment 'opinion' makes it clear that you recognize that there are no facts to support a claim of criminality. Meanwhile, you're also not retracting the insinuation. Totally pathetic.

Calling someone "pathetic" is a personally insult, I'm not here to defend anyone as Shane is his own man. But, Adam Dicker said, some of this stuff is true and he knows who the informant is. Did he say what parts were true and what parts were false? NO!

So maybe people should stop discrediting Shane and ask Adam Dicker which parts are true/false. Until then everything should be considered factual.

 

[DomainGist]

No, you are wrong. Don't make a presumption about what I am presuming.

There is no need for you to be Adam's spokesman, I am just on the side of conducting business ethically.

Please read the whole thread carefully, in particular, Adam's own admission of some of these allegations being true.

The whole truth will come out in some time, so let the time shine some light on it.
And don't worry about me being a bad judge, if ever I was on a Jury brought against you, I can guarantee to a very fair and impartial.

Now, I would appreciate if you allow other members some space for their opinions as well.

Nobody has been able to state what laws are alleged to have been broken.

So even if some of the claims in the article are true, by Adam's admission, that still wouldn't make him a criminal.

What part of that don't you understand?

Unless you have seen this evidence in advance of everybody else then you certainly are presuming. There hasn't been a single person contribute to this thread to claim that they have been defrauded by Adam Dicker, and not a single person able to explain how he has broken a law.

I'm not on his side, just stating the facts, at the moment there hasn't been much of an argument presented at all towards him being a "criminal", which was supposed to be the topic of this thread.

If your answer to the question is "yes" then I really feel that the burden of proof is on you. You seem to have chosen the answer "yes", but don't seem capable of explaining why, whilst I've picked "undecided" based on a complete lack of evidence on one side, and a lack of response from the other.

I've clearly taken the most sensible position at this stage. You seem to have taken exception to my position, that's fine, but I don't see how this conversation can go any further unless you are state your case as to why.

Claiming that a product is worth $299 when you were selling it for $29 is unethical, but probably not illegal.

Making grandoise claims of earnings potential to people for free or cheap labour is unethical, but not illegal.

But the question isn't "Is Adam Dicker unethical", the question is "Is Adam Dicker a criminal".

Presumption of innocence until proven guilty, that's my presumption.

 

[Azwan Asban]

"P.S. The website may be down due to high levels of traffic. If so, please post here and check back frequently."

 

[discobull]

Calling someone "pathetic" is a personally insult, I'm not here to defend anyone as Shane is his own man. But, Adam Dicker said, some of this stuff is true and he knows who the informant is. Did he say what parts were true and what parts were false? NO!

So maybe people should stop discrediting Shane and ask Adam Dicker which parts are true/false. Until then everything should be considered factual.

So if I understand you correctly, people should be allowed to level accusations whether they can substantiate them or not, and then it's up to the person being accused to prove the accusation false? So, for example, if I claimed that you were a pedophile, then that statement should be considered factual until you can disprove it? Does that really make sense to you?

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Assume

Ass U Me
More U than Me

First Flippa, now Dicker, are you going to put a cape on and save the world from bad domains, domaining,domainers

Captain Domain, who's next on the list of Shane's shames

 

[JayJay]

So maybe people should stop discrediting Shane and ask Adam Dicker which parts are true/false. Until then everything should be considered factual.

I think this was stated backwards, it is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty...in my opinion.

 

[Jen-Sin]

Claiming that a product is worth $299 when you were selling it for $29 is unethical, but probably not illegal.

[OFF TOPIC]If the consensus is that such practice is unethical / illegal etc, how many of us are guilty of doing the same while selling domains?[/OFF TOPIC]

 

[D. Wells]

So if I understand you correctly, people should be allowed to level accusations whether they can substantiate them or not, and then it's up to the person being accused to prove the accusation false? So, for example, if I claimed that you were a pedophile, then that statement should be considered factual until you can disprove it? Does that really make sense to you?

Your logic is all messed up. This has factual evidence backing it. You would have no evidence accusing me to be a pedophile. Get it? Or should I draw some nice colorful pictures and make a nursery rhyme?

 

[S-B]

Claiming that a product is worth $299 when you were selling it for $29 is unethical, but probably not illegal.

It actually is illegal in the United States, however, he resides in Canada.

I know little to nothing about the Canadian legal system.

 

[discobull]

Your logic is all messed up. This has factual evidence backing it. You would have no evidence accusing me to be a pedophile. Get it? Or should I draw some nice colorful pictures and make a nursery rhyme?

Great. So, I'll ask again. What is the crime, and what is evidence for that crime? You seem clear about it so you should be able to answer the question. And no pictures necessary, words are fine.

 

[S-B]

harming Michael Cyger was unnecessary.

Michael is the kindest and most honest man in the industry. Unfortunately, this log was passed to me. I hate that it has impacted him - I truly do.

 

[DKN]

EDIT: Just read your article. The info about Adam may or may not be true but publishing Michael Cyger's conversation is dead wrong unless he gave you permission.
Why anyone would do business with you at this point is beyond me. Just the fact that you are going to hang them out to dry if things go bad would be enough for me. Again, not saying the info is wrong or right but harming Michael Cyger was unnecessary.

+1
Well said!

BTW, did you notice his blog's tagline "Sorry Cultra".

 

[aditya11117]

Omgg..

 

[DomainGist]

Michael is the kindest and most honest man in the industry. Unfortunately, this log was passed to me. I hate that it has impacted him - I truly do.

I don't really see what damage it has done to him, he actually comes out of this very well.

 

[D. Wells]

Great. So, I'll ask again. What is the crime, and what is evidence for that crime? You seem clear about it so you should be able to answer the question. And no pictures necessary, words are fine.

OK, so if Shane changed the title from "Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide." to "IS Adam Dicker Dicking you." Would there be a problem? You people are focusing on one broad aspect of him calling the guy a criminal. I'm not a lawyer and not going to get into the legal aspects of this but that's all you people are knocking him for.

 

[HeyNow]

The truth either way needs to be exposed for the sake of the industry.

Yeah, well, good luck with that.

 

[DomainGist]

OK, so if Shane changed the title from "Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide." to "IS Adam Dicker Dicking you." Would there be a problem? You people are focusing on one broad aspect of him killing the guy a criminal. I'm not a lawyer and not going to get into the legal aspects of this but that's all you people are knocking him for.

I think even "scammer" would be better than "criminal".

 

[GoWebnames.com]

OK, so if Shane changed the title from "Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide." to "IS Adam Dicker Dicking you." Would there be a problem? You people are focusing on one broad aspect of him killing the guy a criminal. I'm not a lawyer and not going to get into the legal aspects of this but that's all you people are knocking him for.

 

[discobull]

OK, so if Shane changed the title from "Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide." to "IS Adam Dicker Dicking you." Would there be a problem? You people are focusing on one broad aspect of him killing the guy a criminal. I'm not a lawyer and not going to get into the legal aspects of this but that's all you people are knocking him for

That's all? So you think that branding someone a criminal is a minor deal? Ok, I guess we have a difference of opinion on that one.

 

[D. Wells]

I think even "scammer" would be better than "criminal".

And honestly Pug, you may be right but let's stuff focusing on the little stuff and think about they more important stuff.

 

[S-B]

I don't really see what damage it has done to him, he actually comes out of this very well.

I'm sure it still has caused him a headache. I feel terrible and wrestled with this decision for a while. Ultimately, it was the most damning evidence that I was able to share without giving up my sources.

 

[carob]

I read the blog article but I am not sure what Adam Dicker has done. Maybe lose money? Or be discontinued on DomainSherpa? Or has he taken money for services that were not provided or were not as described? Have people invested in businesses he did not launch? Are people trying to get money back from him and staying quiet until they do?

Are there any know victims?

 

[S-B]

I read the blog article but I am not sure what Adam Dicker has done. Maybe lose money? Or be discontinued on DomainSherpa? Or has he taken money for services that were not provided or were not as described? Have people invested in businesses he did not launch? Are people trying to get money back from him and staying quiet untill they do?

Are there any know victims?

Answers to come.

 

[Templr]

Yeah, well, good luck with that.

Well, if that's what you expect from a non regulated industry. Just look at ICANN.

 

[discobull]

I hope he's paying you to defend him in such a minor. His name is "Dicker..." I guess that speaks volumes...

You're confused. I'm not defending anyone, you are. What I'm doing is attacking Shane for knowingly posting an allegation that he clearly knows he can't substantiate. You apparently are okay with that sort of thing and I expect you'll continue to be until he turns on you as well.