Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

[S-B]

This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
These are in no particular order.

• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[GoWebnames.com]

when you're somebody, nobody second guesses you

when you're nobody, everybody second guesses you

but everybody should question anybody,
whether you're a nobody or a somebody
and they are a somebody or a nobody
you shouldn't be guessing...



imo...

That's the best summative reponse so far.

Plain and simple, It's quite necessary to always conduct your business honestly. I have always had the most dislikes for the INNER CIRCLE culture which is nothing more than you scratch my back, I will scratch yours among a select few. When @Shane Bellone busted the shady practices going on over at Flippa, didn't the revelations confirm our very doubts? I believe the revelations subsequently forced Flippa to conduct its business with more transparency and more honesty.

Common people usually tend to IDOLIZE a SHOOTING STAR, put it on a HIGH PEDESTAL and and this IDOL becomes their obsession. It takes a whistleblower or someone of superior character and intelligence, to destroy such a myth.

I agree that @Shane Bellone may have gone a little too far in calling @Adam Dicker an outright "criminal" but hey, isn't this what Newspapers do everyday to draw attention to the headline of the day !!? It's probably only his intention to highlight this news.

I also agree that @Adam Dicker earned a good name in domaining community but so have many others who far exceed what he achieved in domaining. Also, in his response, his not coming clean on the revelations/ allegations revealed by Shane and his acceptance of "few" of these allegations is what lends further mystery to these revelations. As some member shared the webarchives screenshot above, a $29 course being peddled for $899 and then subsequently revised to $29 is not a very good business ethic, is it?

So let's not put Adam on a high pedestal, he is only human and may have indugled in profiteering and unethical business practices, as inferred by his own admission in this thread. Also, if the ADAM-CYGER chat logs shared by Shane are true, then @Michael Cyger may have had a BIG LEAD on something ADAM may have been indugling in.

As for @Shane Bellone, I admire he has got guts to break news like this. But let's understand when stories come out, they almost unfailingly come out like this. I wouldn't fault him here except his use of the word "CRIMINAL" for Adam. To the member who called him JULIAN ASSANGE of the domaining world, I would like to ask what's wrong with it? If it was not for JULIAN, you wouldn't even know of your ass being spied on by your very govt.

I would call on Adam to come clean on the revelations / allegations in this thread if he wants to protect what's left of his reputation. @Adam Dicker, a fair and honest pointwise rebuttal would help your cause and there is nothing the world likes more than a dead honest man, even with his mistakes.

Following the developments..

 

[DomainGist]

To the member who called him JULIAN ASSANGE of the domaining world, I would like to ask what's wrong with it? If it was not for JULIAN, you wouldn't even know your ass of being spied on by your govt.

Well firstly, that member would be me.

Secondly, I never said that he was the Julian Assange of the domaining world, I said I wondered whether he aspired to be.

Thirdly, I never said there was anything wrong with it.

 

[S-B]

I'm not aiming to be anything nor am I aiming to profit in anyway.

This is who I am.

 

[GoWebnames.com]

Here is something more on Adam Dicker, from his past, shared in comments on the original blog location:

Link: http://www.wired.com/2008/06/godaddy-vp-caug/

 

[DomainGist]

I would call on Adam to come clean on the revelations / allegations in this thread if he wants to protect what's left of his reputation. @Adam Dicker, a fair and honest pointwise rebuttal would help your cause and there is nothing the world likes more than a dead honest man, even with his mistakes.

He's probably waiting for part 2, like the rest of us.

 

[DomainGist]

Here is something more on Adam Dicker, from his past, shared in comments on the original blog location:

Pretty much confirmed that he'd not broken any godaddy rules though.

So he was the fall guy.... probably taking one for the team in return for a golden goodbye.

 

[GoWebnames.com]

Pretty much confirmed that he'd not broken any godaddy rules though.

So he was the fall guy.... probably taking one for the team in return for a golden goodbye.

No need to worry your head much about it, this is the standard sweet-coated response of any big company under investigation, they don't like to admit to wrongdoing while they tend to state that all actions are being taken to "secure" the users from any "possible" fallout.

If not for a testing engineer, the Volkswagen scandal would never have been unearthed.
If not for exhaustive investigations, Bill Clinton would have got away with his false testimony under oath.

 

[GoWebnames.com]

I agree he shouldn't have called Adam a "CRIMINAL" outright since it's a clear DEFAMATION if the allegations can't be substantiated. But you should also notice that Adam himself admits to "some" of these revelations / allegations being true.

And, as far as I know, financial irregularities leading to profiteering, is a CRIME in USA and, Shane, being a veteran, probably knows what's he saying going by his evidence he is still withholding.

I am sure we all know the story of RAJAT GUPTA, small town boy from India who went on to become McKinsey Chairman, and who was sentenced to 02 Years at peak of his career on charges of facililating Insider Trading.

There is much more to come out yet, I believe...

Disclosure: I have no business dealings with Shane.

 

[D. Wells]

Shane didn't call Adam Dicker a criminal, does anyone see the question mark? Do you think Shane is stupid? Everything Shane has done is protected by The First Amendment.

 

[DomainGist]

I agree he shouldn't have called Adam a "CRIMINAL" outright since it's a clear DEFAMATION if the allegations can't be substantiated.

The point that discobull was making is that there doesn't appear to be any criminal allegations to answer to.

What are the criminal allegations being made?

What laws is he accused of breaking?

 

[DomainGist]

Shane didn't call Adam Dicker a criminal

Didn't he?

"He preys not on the weak but on the domain industry’s many novice investors who lack the knowledge to identify him as the criminal I believe he is"

 

[SirDrago]

Shane didn't call Adam Dicker a criminal, does anyone see the question mark? Do you think Shane is stupid? Everything Shane has done is protected by The First Amendment.

Perhaps you're not aware of T.v or social media etc...Because our "The first Amendment" rights or no longer just being judged only in the courts. People/Companies have gone upside down believing that they would be protected by such foolish thoughts.

*Disclaimer
I'm NOT a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn

 

[Jen-Sin]

Half truths are more deadly than lies.

 

[S-B]

Didn't he?

"He preys not on the weak but on the domain industry’s many novice investors who lack the knowledge to identify him as the criminal I believe he is"

Read what I said carefully. I stated an opinion.

 

[GoWebnames.com]

The point that discobull was making is that there doesn't appear to be any criminal allegations to answer to.
What are the criminal allegations being made?
What laws is he accused of breaking?

Perhaps you missed this part: And, as far as I know, financial irregularities leading to profiteering, is a CRIME in USA and, Shane, being a veteran, probably knows what's he saying going by his evidence he is still withholding.

Shane didn't call Adam Dicker a criminal, does anyone see the question mark? Do you think Shane is stupid? Everything Shane has done is protected by The First Amendment.

Yes, I didn't look at it earlier from the legal standpoint.
Agree @D. Wells, technically he didn't call Adam criminal even while calling him one.

Didn't he?
"He preys not on the weak but on the domain industry’s many novice investors who lack the knowledge to identify him as the criminal I believe he is"

...who lack the knowledge to identify him as the criminal I believe he is

He uses "I BELIEVE he is", not just "he is". Again, he is in the clear here, from a technical legal standpoint IMO.

 

[DomainGist]

Read what I said carefully. I stated an opinion.

You stated an opinion, yes. Unfortunately you are yet to substantiate it.

I look forward to part 2, which will hopefully contain some hard evidence.

 

[Templr]

It's easy to try and psychological dissect each party in this matter. It does however appear that Shane Bellone is acting as an agent for ethics in the industry. As with his Flippa post, he searched deep inside himself to expose the wrongs.

I'm sad to hear this about Adam Dicker, we used to be in contact, mainly on Facebook. But I parted connection amicably during his new business enterprise scheme, it didn't feel right for me.

We can just presume on here, and the story will unfold, as unfortunately it has weight. The truth either way needs to be exposed for the sake of the industry.

 

[DomainGist]

Perhaps you missed this part: And, as far as I know, financial irregularities leading to profiteering, is a CRIME in USA and, Shane, being a veteran, probably knows what's he saying going by his evidence he is still withholding.

I'm pretty sure that's a crime in any developed country, in the UK we call it fraud, the problem is at the moment I've seen no evidence of it.

You appear to be ruling Adam Dicker guilty based on evidence that you presume exists but have yet to see, making this no better than a kangeroo court.

I'm keeping an open mind. You appear to have made your mind up already, society should just be glad that you aren't a judge, although I suppose it is still possible that some poor soul will have you on their jury.

 

[discobull]

going by his evidence he is still withholding.

It's only evidence once it's produced. Until then it's just make believe BS.

 

[Sam Roy]

I feel Shane wanted a huge publicity for the new blog he just started :D Unfortunately for him it resulted in negative publicity. He might even face a law suit but I know how it being an ex-military man!!!

 

[RU]

@Adam Dicker is a Legend.

 

[DomainGist]

and, Shane, being a veteran, probably knows what's he saying going by his evidence he is still withholding.

What is that even supposed to mean?

Here are some similar statements....

Bob, being a butcher, knows how to make the perfect loaf of bread.

James, being a patent attorney, knows a lot about military strategy.

Jack, being a production line worker, knows a lot about domaining.

Paul, being a professional boxer, knows a lot about making cheese.

 

[Domain Shane]

EDIT: Just read your article. The info about Adam may or may not be true but publishing Michael Cyger's conversation is dead wrong unless he gave you permission.
Why anyone would do business with you at this point is beyond me. Just the fact that you are going to hang them out to dry if things go bad would be enough for me. Again, not saying the info is wrong or right but harming Michael Cyger was unnecessary.

 

[GoWebnames.com]

I'm pretty sure that's a crime in any developed country, in the UK we call it fraud, the problem is at the moment I've seen no evidence of it.

You appear to be ruling Adam Dicker guilty based on evidence that you presume exists but have yet to see, making this no better than a kangeroo court.

I'm keeping an open mind. You appear to have made your mind up already, society should just be glad that you aren't a judge, although I suppose it is still possible that some poor soul will have you on their jury.

No, you are wrong. Don't make a presumption about what I am presuming.

There is no need for you to be Adam's spokesman, I am just on the side of conducting business ethically.

Please read the whole thread carefully, in particular, Adam's own admission of some of these allegations being true.

The whole truth will come out in some time, so let the time shine some light on it.
And don't worry about me being a bad judge, if ever I was on a Jury brought against you, I can guarantee to a very fair and impartial trial.

Now, I would appreciate if you allow other members some space for their opinions as well.

 

[discobull]

Read what I said carefully. I stated an opinion.

That you're coming out here to label that comment 'opinion' makes it clear that you recognize that there are no facts to support a claim of criminality. Meanwhile, you're also not retracting the insinuation. Totally pathetic.