Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

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This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.
 
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Not all claimants / victims / wholly dissatisfied customers have received a letter despite multiple requests for refunds.

I too have dealt directly with Adam. It has gotten me nothing. Not even a letter from his attorney. Just empty promises and, otherwise, silence.

I've never received a letter either. But I've seen the copy on the blog here. I wonder if Frank got a letter.

@anon22339, @domainesque and those who have not received any response from @Adam Dicker or his legal representative regarding your dispute,

instead of waiting,

I suggest you email @Adam Dicker and his legal representation Joel Reinhardt at adam (at) dcg.com and joel.reinhardt (at) gowlings.com to discuss resolution of your matter.

You may like to CC the email to @Shane Bellone , @SirDrago and @D. Wells as they appear to be representing and advising 20 other claimants, according to @carob.

Hi can anyone tell us what rate a Canadian lawyer charges per letter? $150? That's 20 letters so far... and if they have to go through the whole thread itemising posts for each individual poster and sending individual letters quoting them, as Pug requested in his case, that is a lot of lawyer hours to be billed to Dicker.

Actually maybe they only work for Dicker now if he pays in advance and that is why the letters waited till Friday.

You may also like to cc to Andrew Allemann at andrew (at) domainnamewire.com as well.

http://domainnamewire.com/2015/10/06/thoughts-on-the-latest-domain-name-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-2235248 said:
I’ve read a lot of claims over the past 24-36 hours. I’m not sure it’s getting us anywhere. I know that Shane Bellone (the author of the original blog post that started this discussion) plans to reveal more.

I’d like to collect some good information, rather than just basic accusations. I think this will be helpful in getting the full story. With that in mind, you can email me at andrew (at) domainnamewire.com if you believe you have been cheated. However, I only want the information in this format:

1. What you bought or your business deal and relevant dates
2. How much you paid, if applicable
3. What was delivered
4. How was this deficient compared to what you were promised
5. Do you have commitments (either prior to the transaction or afterward) that are in writing?
6. Did you ask for a refund? If so, did you receive a response? Include dates/details
7. Your name

E-MAIL THESE TO ME RATHER THAN POSTING A COMMENT IF YOU WANT ME TO TAKE A LOOK. You’re welcome to post a comment, but I’ll only look at the emails.
 
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[ You may like to CC the email to @Shane Bellone , @SirDrago and @D. Wells as they appear to be representing and advising 20 other claimants, according to @carob.

I certainly haven't requested that any of those people represent me, and I'm presumably one of the 20 people to receive a letter. so please stop making assumptions.
 
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@anon22339, @domainesque and those who have not received any response from @Adam Dicker or his legal representative regarding your dispute,

instead of waiting,

I suggest you email @Adam Dicker and his legal representation Joel Reinhardt at adam (at) dcg.com and joel.reinhardt (at) gowlings.com to discuss resolution of your matter.

You may like to CC the email to @Shane Bellone , @SirDrago and @D. Wells as they appear to be representing and advising 20 other claimants, according to @carob.



You may also like to cc to Andrew Allemann at andrew (at) domainnamewire.com as well.
I have representation already if needed. I am well aware how these cases go and what to expect. I as of Friday tried to contact Adam one more time. I was ignored. I have lost complete trust in this man. I will call his attorney tomorrow and go from there.
 
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I will call his attorney tomorrow and go from there.

You should be getting things in writing, not verbal, if you are serious about a potential court case.
 
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You should be getting things in writing, not verbal, if you are serious about a potential court case.

I have many things in writing already. Not just for court.
 
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I certainly haven't requested that any of those people represent me, and I'm presumably one of the 20 people to receive a letter. so please stop making assumptions.

When had I suggested that the "20 people" who had received a letter had requested any of those people to represent them?

You may like to CC the email to @Shane Bellone , @SirDrago and @D. Wells as they appear to be representing and advising 20 other claimants, according to @carob.

Who's making assumptions? I apologise if you feel I assumed that.

Jen Sin, I know that your post was aimed at people who actually have a financial claim, but why do you suggest that course of action rather than a simple written demand for a refund within x days, stating that if it isn't received they will begin legal proceedings? That's what I'd do.

If Adam Dicker feels that any of those people are not worthy of a refund he can ignore the letter and invite the lawsuit.

Both course of actions have the same objective. If my suggestion is unsound, please highlight and criticise it if it will undermine the position of the claimants.

We are not here debating which method is better, both of us are just listing down possible next steps for the claimants, and my suggestion is what I thought of to encourage claimants to take the next step.

Eventually, they have to decide what to do next, or continue to wait.

I feel sad for @anon22339 and others who are still ignored. He has been voicing out here but his voice was not heard, and I can feel his frustrations.
 
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The OP needs to be updated to reflect the fact that one of the claimants on post #1 was refunded on Friday 23rd October.....

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One who actually writes for a major domain blog it should be noted, which would presumably explain why Adam Dicker took a different approach with that claim.
 
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The OP needs to be updated to reflect the fact that one of the claimants on post #1 was refunded on Friday 23rd October.....

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One who actually writes for a major domain blog it should be noted, which would presumably explain why Adam Dicker took a different approach with that claim.

@PugDomains, what is your presumed explanation regarding @Adam Dicker 's approach with @RandysDomains ' claim on 10 Oct?

My issue with Adam - albeit a small one - was resolved today. I'm glad that he is making progress on cleaning this mess up.

All of this off-topic crap is driving me crazy. I had a small issue with Adam - contacted him directly - and had a satisfactory resolution. Be direct with him and see if you get results!

As far as class-action suits - which have been discussed - the only people who make out on these are the lawyers. What's the difference between a lawyer and a carp? One is a scum-sucking bottom dweller and the other is a fish.

Peace, Y'all!
 
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I suggest you email @Adam Dicker and his legal representation Joel Reinhardt at adam (at) dcg.com and joel.reinhardt (at) gowlings.com to discuss resolution of your matter.

Why would you ever choose to engage with a lawyer OTHER than your own?
Especially when you don't really know the lawyer's actual relationship to the client.
Especially when you don't have a relationship with the lawyer.
 
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@PugDomains, what is your presumed explanation regarding @Adam Dicker 's approach with @RandysDomains ' claim on 10 Oct?

What is the relevance of your question and why do you need me to answer it?

In order to give any sort of comprehensive answer to your question I would want to draw parallels between Randy's claim and the various unresolved claims, and I am no longer prepared to comment on specific unresolved financial disputes involving Adam Dicker, either publicly or in private.

Like I've said multiple times, if any party feels they are owed money and they have no success in attempting to resolve amicably with Adam Dicker then their only obvious option is to start legal proceedings to recover the money. What else could I possibly add?
 
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RandyDomains, you state what you would do if you were Adam Dicker, what would you do if you were Shane Bellone? You need to consider both sides here.
Pug, I do not know what I would do if I were SB. I might possibly have contacted AD before posting here, and maybe he did, I do not know. But I have been considering almost all of the posts here.

I spent 25 years in the customer service side of a major corporation, and have answered many complaints where people talked about lawsuits - none materialized. We were always able to reach an agreement. Not everyone was totally satisfied, but it is very - repeat - very - expensive to sue someone, especially where there are no written contracts between the parties.

I can not speak to the complaints of email lists that were not for valid users, but I am pretty sure that the people who paid for website development, and do not think they received what they paid for, do not have anything in writing regarding the specifications for the web site. This is unfortunate, to be sure, and I am sorry that they they did not insist on a written contract, but that is one of the central issues here - isn't it? Who do you trust?

AD was, and still is, perceived by many individuals, especially new domainers, as an expert - a winner of awards - a big player in the industry. I personally paid his firm to provide a website for me. It was a template site as I stated in an earlier post. It was not great, but it is functional. I had no contract or list of design specifications, so I would be very hard-pressed to ask for a refund. The fact that his group provided a functional website completely removes my issue from the realm of being criminal, and reduces it to the category of 'lessons learned'.

My biggest mistake was believing that AD, in his forum, would provide guidance on how to develop a 'lead generation' domain that actually produced revenue. I'm still waiting on that 'lesson'. If I do get a lead on the web site they built, and which I modified, I will probably make out okay - legal leads appear to provide big returns - one legal claim through the site would pay for development, hosting, and registration. It is a fact that AD promises to deliver advice and lessons which are late on their delivery. I chalked this up to him being very busy - especially these days.

Back to the post I created. If you have a complaint, contact AD and be as specific as possible on why you are not satisfied with what was provided to you. If you feel you are entitled to a refund, ask for it. If you want additional work done to complete the project say so.

I expect the usual members will say that they wrote to AD and received no reply. Even if you are unhappy, you might want to consider being respectful and professional in your correspondence. Okay I am not saying you were not - I obviously have not read it. Just keep it professional - that's all.

Onward and Upward!
 
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Pug, I do not know what I would do if I were SB. I might possibly have contacted AD before posting here, and maybe he did, I do not know. But I have been considering almost all of the posts here.

I spent 25 years in the customer service side of a major corporation, and have answered many complaints where people talked about lawsuits - none materialized. We were always able to reach an agreement. Not everyone was totally satisfied, but it is very - repeat - very - expensive to sue someone, especially where there are no written contracts between the parties.

I can not speak to the complaints of email lists that were not for valid users, but I am pretty sure that the people who paid for website development, and do not think they received what they paid for, do not have anything in writing regarding the specifications for the web site. This is unfortunate, to be sure, and I am sorry that they they did not insist on a written contract, but that is one of the central issues here - isn't it? Who do you trust?

AD was, and still is, perceived by many individuals, especially new domainers, as an expert - a winner of awards - a big player in the industry. I personally paid his firm to provide a website for me. It was a template site as I stated in an earlier post. It was not great, but it is functional. I had no contract or list of design specifications, so I would be very hard-pressed to ask for a refund. The fact that his group provided a functional website completely removes my issue from the realm of being criminal, and reduces it to the category of 'lessons learned'.

My biggest mistake was believing that AD, in his forum, would provide guidance on how to develop a 'lead generation' domain that actually produced revenue. I'm still waiting on that 'lesson'. If I do get a lead on the web site they built, and which I modified, I will probably make out okay - legal leads appear to provide big returns - one legal claim through the site would pay for development, hosting, and registration. It is a fact that AD promises to deliver advice and lessons which are late on their delivery. I chalked this up to him being very busy - especially these days.

Back to the post I created. If you have a complaint, contact AD and be as specific as possible on why you are not satisfied with what was provided to you. If you feel you are entitled to a refund, ask for it. If you want additional work done to complete the project say so.

I expect the usual members will say that they wrote to AD and received no reply. Even if you are unhappy, you might want to consider being respectful and professional in your correspondence. Okay I am not saying you were not - I obviously have not read it. Just keep it professional - that's all.

Onward and Upward!
 
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oh please.....really? Do you think we're stupid people here?
 
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If you have a complaint, contact AD and be as specific as possible on why you are not satisfied with what was provided to you. If you feel you are entitled to a refund, ask for it. If you want additional work done to complete the project say so.

I expect the usual members will say that they wrote to AD and received no reply. Even if you are unhappy, you might want to consider being respectful and professional in your correspondence. Okay I am not saying you were not - I obviously have not read it. Just keep it professional - that's all.

It would be helpful if you are talking in a broad sense that you make this clear, you appear to be directing all of the above towards me?

Just to clarify, I have no financial claim with Adam Dicker, no complaint, no reason to contact him prior to recently. His lawyer did send me a letter though. Coincidentally, that letter also seemed to suggest that the lawyer believed I had a financial dispute with Adam Dicker.

Are you sure you are up to date on recent events? Adam Dicker contacted Shane Bellone to obtain the contact details of all those with financial claims promising to refund on friday, and instead sent them all a generic letter threatening libel action. He has allegedly since stated to another member that he will refund those people in return for the thread being locked by Shane Bellone.

It also seems to be dependent on numerous unrelated third parties removing content from this thread. For example, my letter seemed to imply that I have to remove some as of yet unspecified posts in return for those with financial complaints receiving refunds, despite never having been asked to represent those people or claimed to do so. I am seeking clarification on his requirements.

How on earth is sending a polite message to Adam Dicker explaining their problem going to help those people obtain a refund, if there are conditions placed on those refunds which are technically impossible for them to adhere to as individuals. If Mr X contacts AD directly, and AD states that Mr X can only receive a refund if the namepros thread is locked, then how is Mr X going to lock the thread?
 
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@PugDomains No, sorry, the first paragraph was in reply to your question. The rest was just me being verbose.

In regard to "the letter" I read it. I have no idea if it is possible to remove prior comments in the blog. I seem to recall someone clipped the whole thread and posted it somewhere - so that is a mute point. What's been published here will be available somewhere I am sure. It has been my experience that lawyers always engage in what what one might - for lack of a better term - call 'puffery'. That's what they do for a living - why they earn the big bucks. Even they can be reasonable.

I agree that it would be unreasonable to hinge refunds to unspecified claimants on an uninvolved member of this forum removing unspecified posts. I have no idea why you would have received ;the letter'. Seems strange.

@domainesque No, I do not.
 
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Not everyone was totally satisfied, but it is very - repeat - very - expensive to sue someone

Expensive for the loser, yes.

But somebody on a blog comment about this subject did point out that small claims court in Canada is very cheap, for claims up to a certain amount, and that may be an option for some.
 
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Probably, assuming you are in Canada? I live in Texas - six miles from Mexico - a long trip to Ontario, Canada to file a claim. I am not up to date on International Law (thank goodness).
 
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Expensive for the loser, yes.

But somebody on a blog comment about this subject did point out that small claims court in Canada is very cheap, for claims up to a certain amount, and that may be an option for some.
Even with a small claims case, it is not good to get a judgement or repeated judgments against you. really bad for your credit rating too.
 
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@PugDomains

I have no idea why you would have received ;the letter'. Seems strange.

To try and shut me up, as simple as that, which in fairness has partially worked, I'm being very careful how I word things, have moved to disassociate myself from individual financial claims, and requested that no new information is sent to my inbox. If I don't have any info I can't share any.
 
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