discuss The new dot everything showcase and discussion

[Keith]

Well it appears as though it's happening. The launch of .land, .bike, .this, and .that is here and many more to come.

Show off your new .whatevers here and discuss why these are or are not good investments. Keep it cool, calm, and productive

I'll start with my new regs... absolutely none!

 

[GreenDog18]

I think that for people like myself who soley rely on SEO traffic the answer is simple.

baby.care wins all day.

I do wonder how daycare.co.uk could ever survive.
Evidence for people typing .com out of habit even when presented with the actual name of baby.care can be found where?

I assume .net .org are also immune? People only fuck up when presented with a new gtld ? And only in America?

 

[Keith]

I think that for people like myself who soley rely on SEO traffic the answer is simple.

baby.care wins all day.

Again, this is assuming you develop it and then you're still an underdog. Most here are strictly buying domains and hoping they become valuable. It's simply not going to happen.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I bought
iSpentAllMyMoneyOnA.Everything
.everything will pass .pro .co .guru and .info in my mind
Ha ha,just kidding. Just another stupid extension, maybe sub domains would be the way to go?
Photography.Guru.Extension would be an awesome subdomain for photography.Me thinks lol
Or maybe Golden.Retriever.Extension.Guru.Photography
Bob Parsons Thanks you all

 

[GreenDog18]

Another idiotic post that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

Does anyone moderate this forum?

I bought
iSpentAllMyMoneyOnA.Everything
.everything will pass .pro .co .guru and .info in my mind
Ha ha,just kidding. Just another stupid extension, maybe sub domains would be the way to go?
Photography.Guru.Extension would be an awesome subdomain for photography.Me thinks lol
Or maybe Golden.Retriever.Extension.Guru.Photography
Bob Parsons Thanks you all

 

[Jasonn]

As of right now there isn't a better extension. Will there be? Yes.

Poodles.dog
Poodles.pet
Poodle.care
Poodle.blog

all of which I would rather have than Poodle.com

etc...

Everyone knows .com now. There are going to be HUNDREDS of these new strings. Over a THOUSAND of them. 5-10 years from .com will not be as known as it is right now.

Again that is just my opinion.. but like they say opinions are like... nevermind.

B ahahaha is this guy a fake donuts employee or something? joined feb 2014...and it shows!

 

[Keith]

Poodles.dog
Poodles.pet
Poodle.care
Poodle.blog

all of which I would rather have than Poodle.com

:lol: what?

Another huge problem I see with the knockoffs like poodle.care is that it is too specific. The domain dictates the content. Not the case with poodle.com. The latter allows the site to contain everything about poodles while poodle.care is extremely limited. You would need several separate domains and sites to offer content that equals the .com

 

[scandiman]

As of right now there isn't a better extension. Will there be? Yes.

Poodles.dog
Poodles.pet
Poodle.care
Poodle.blog

all of which I would rather have than Poodle.com

etc...

Everyone knows .com now. There are going to be HUNDREDS of these new strings. Over a THOUSAND of them. 5-10 years from .com will not be as known as it is right now.

Again that is just my opinion.. but like they say opinions are like... nevermind.

Poodle.com would be the best domain without any doubt, but I understand acquisition costs may keep it from being an option. But to say .com will be less known in 5-10 years is patently absurd, as if every major global corp and social media site will cease to use .com in that timeframe. The stuff you're smoking is highly potent, totally distorting reality

 

[ImageAuthors]

I don't think people are that obtuse.

Really it's cute that you've just begun domaining in February 2014 and you jump into the crowd immediately lecturing a bunch of seasoned veterans on "the future".

You're missing the primary point. For the past 20 years, it has been possible to name your website "Snowboarder Club". People could do this with a .COM for $9. Introducing .CLUB as a novelty didn't open any new doors.

In order to be called "Snowboarder Club" in 2014, a business has to own both the .COM that people assume as the default AND the newly introduced vanity extension of .CLUB. That's an added expense.

The visual difference in length between SnowboarderClub.com and Snowboarder.club is negligible. But if you only own the .CLUB version, then you MUST specify that "dot" in your name; otherwise people will go to a different website. So your name, in fact, becomes "Snowboarder Dot Club". And that is LONGER than "Snowboarder Club".

.COM indisputably will remain the most widespread extension in the world. Major companies like Amazon and Ebay and Facebook and millions more won't rebrand as Amazon.guru or Ebay.store or Facebook.tips. And with the vast majority of important websites continuing to use .COM, there is a lasting advantage for other websites to follow suit.

.COM transcends languages. .TIPS doesn't. .PETS doesn't. .SHOPS doesn't.

But the MAIN point is that introducing these new extensions effectively requires businesses who choose one of these few hundred keywords to use 2 domains instead of just 1 to establish their name uniquely online.

Nanotechnology.com used to be quite good on its own. Now the person who runs Nanotechnology.com may have to pay protection money to a Mafia-like registry in order to forward nano.technology to its website. This is not an advantage.

Or else there will be 2 confusingly similar websites out there -- Nanotechnology.com and Nano.technology. Having that kind of online confusion is not an advantage either.

Good luck with your domain purchases. But, honestly, if you start domaining by preaching to the professionals rather than listening to advice, you're going to flush a lot of money down the toilet.

 

[DU]

But the so-called scarcity of domains is not so bad that end users are desperate and willing to put their businesses on unproven strings.

It's funny then isn't it that people are comparing .com to these new fangled gtlds often with single keyword domains. Most people here are operating on small budgets with small margin investments. Few people here own Poodle.com and Whisky.com. More likely PoodleHairCuts.com or WhiskyandWomen.com

I prefer to build some credibility by getting a better domain than my competitors. Using a .whatever is a telltale sign that you've not been in business for long and you don't have a track record.
There are a lot of hidden costs to not choosing the right URL.

The funny thing being that it actually says nothing of the sort in reality. This is like the "10 year old .com" implies value because someone paid for 10 years of renewals.

Obviously .com are better because they can be aged by now - it's just like whisky (drink not domain). Who buys a whisky under 12 years old? Who spends a lot on a 3 year old whisky? It has to be crap being that new.

Don't be hasty to write them off:
http://www.clearcreekdistillery.com/products/whiskey/

I'm STILL of the opinion that anyone can buy a jolly good name in the .com for under $1.5K and a pretty kick ass name for $3K under and can even find a serviceable name for reg fee. Given a $10K budget you can land a name that people will THINK is one of those good ones. I know the brain fools you with familiarity so there is sense in splurging if you want to be HUGE.

But I know people that are on a .net and refused to pay a domainer a $200 asking price. I know successful businesses running on regfee names, no problem. The names are cool, memorable, and marketed very well.

So, anyone judging a business by the name string and domain age is a moron. All it does say is that "I was willing to spend more money to get the name I want" which can translate to being smart at marketing (in some cases, or stupid in others). When I get a plumber though - I go with the guy who has the best rating for stopping floods not the one with the best domain.

I'm quite happy with JoesCashOnlyPlumbing.biz (in business 30 years) over BestPlumber.com or Best.plumber. I got his domain from a sticker on his truck, or his invoice from a friend, or AngiesList or whatever... it doesn't matter.

But for anyone who has a focus on an online presence - the extra money spent on a great name .com is usually worth it (within reason).

:lol: what?
Another huge problem I see with the knockoffs like poodle.care is that it is too specific. The domain dictates the content. Not the case with poodle.com. The latter allows the site to contain everything about poodles while poodle.care is extremely limited. You would need several separate domains and sites to offer content that equals the .com

You can reverse that argument too. Poodle.com is about what? Poodles in an area? Poodles in general? Most people are looking to Buy a Poodle or looking for specialized vet (local) or for specifics "Poodle haircuts"..so sometimes specificity is an advantage.

I'm of the opinion that many domains are TOO generic and oversold.

 

[domainer021]

Really it's cute that you've just begun domaining in February 2014 and you jump into the crowd immediately lecturing a bunch of seasoned veterans on "the future".

I'm not lecturing, I'm arguing. And I'm not new to domaining. I own several .coms that are a few years old.

.COM indisputably will remain the most widespread extension in the world. Major companies like Amazon and Ebay and Facebook and millions more won't rebrand as Amazon.guru or Ebay.store or Facebook.tips. And with the vast majority of important websites continuing to use .COM, there is a lasting advantage for other websites to follow suit.

Accenture and Google have applied for their own private gTLDs.

.accenture, .google, .gmail, .android

So there will be domain names like blog.google, apps.android, jobs.google and so on.

People will soon have to get used to typing non-com domain names.

 

[Keith]

You can reverse that argument too. Poodle.com is about what? Poodles in an area? Poodles in general? Most people are looking to Buy a Poodle or looking for specialized vet (local) or for specifics "Poodle haircuts"..so sometimes specificity is an advantage.

I'm of the opinion that many domains are TOO generic and oversold.

The beautiful thing about the examples you just gave is that vets, grooming, sales...can all be under one roof with the .com. Strict limitations are set with the knockoffs.

 

[McDuke]

Nanotechnology.com and Nano.technology

I think Nano.Technology looks way cooler than NanoTechnology.com.

One question i have asked before but didn't get a response to was.

Is it not quicker to type "Nano" and the .technology comes up rather than Nanotechnology and the .com comes up?

 

[Jasonn]

I think Nano.Technology looks way cooler than NanoTechnology.com.

One question i have asked before but didn't get a response to was.

Is it not quicker to type "Nano" and the .technology comes up rather than Nanotechnology and the .com comes up?

here is the problem...nanotechnology is one word. with the new domain hacks ..er gtlds you have to say nano DOT technology. whereas with the .com its just nanotechnology THEN .com, the extension is an afterthought, not right in the middle of it. thats what i really dislike about all these new domains they always have DOT right in the middle of words, business names, everything. it doesn't look too bad but when you voice it, it sounds bad, at least in my opinion.

as for your question, i don't quite understand. what are you using where the extension automatically comes up? if its a site you've visited before the browser will auto fill, so either way it doesn't matter. if you've never been there before how would it know to suggest .technology and not .guru or dot careers or whatever else?

 

[McDuke]

as for your question, i don't quite understand. what are you using where the extension automatically comes up? if its a site you've visited before the browser will auto fill, so either way it doesn't matter. if you've never been there before how would it know to suggest .technology and not .guru or dot careers or whatever else?

I mean in search ranking. if i wanted to go to nano.technology wouldn't i just type "nano" in Google and if developed properly nano.technology should be right there, no?

But for Nanotechnology.com "Nanotechnology" would have to be typed each time.

maybe im missing something....

 

[Jasonn]

I mean in search ranking. if i wanted to go to nano.technology wouldn't i just type "nano" in Google and if developed properly nano.technology should be right there, no?

But for Nanotechnology.com "Nanotechnology" would have to be typed each time.

maybe im missing something....

that seems unlikely as there are products out there just called 'nano' like the ipod nano which is what currently comes up as number one for me when you enter 'nano' into google. no mentions of the word 'nanotechnology' at all when you type in nano actually. as to how search engines change to rank these new domains is yet to be seen but i wouldn't count on your scenario happening.

 

[McDuke]

that seems unlikely as there are products out there just called 'nano' like the ipod nano which is what currently comes up as number one for me when you enter 'nano' into google. no mentions of the word 'nanotechnology' at all when you type in nano actually. as to how search engines change to rank these new domains is yet to be seen but i wouldn't count on your scenario happening.

ok, just curious if there is potential for this.

thanks

 

[DU]

There will always be type-in, as long as there are businesses advertising their URLs.

Today people are typing in .com (or a ccTLD) in the URL bar when they know exactly where they want to go. I don't think that many are typing in .guru now.

SEO is not the problem, any extension can rank in the search engines. But if end users don't prominently advertise their URLs with new extensions, they will remain gadgets.
Of course it's a catch-22 situation. Somebody has to get the ball rolling, but without the first mover advantage.

It only takes one to get the ball rolling for themselves. If you're advertising your URL and doing SEO or whatever.. it doesn't matter the volume of others.

Why would it matter to me that only 40,000 other people have the same extension any more than it matters that 40,000 use the same first keyword of my keywordkeyword.com?

I do understand branding. I do understand how Coke has a market. I do understand how drugs beat out generics..... there is a comfort with .com - but I also know that people will type in whatever you tell them.

No one ever says to me in response to me saying myaddress.tv.. "dot tv? are you sure" than they do when I say "five letter acronym" for a .org.

People generally do what they're told to get what they want!

(Doesn't make it worth investing in this space though),

 

[Keith]

No one ever says to me in response to me saying myaddress.tv.. "dot tv? are you sure" than they do when I say "five letter acronym" for a .org

They question my email address almost every time I tell them @keith.tv. As if they have never heard of .tv (most actually haven't). On the other hand, I never get questioned when I give my gmail.com address

 

[Kate]

People generally do what they're told to get what they want!

O.com.
I mean O.co :hehe:

The radio test is where the new extensions will have a hard time.

 

[DU]

I never get questioned when I give my gmail.com address

[email protected] is taken.

Where can you buy gmails?

---------- Post added at 05:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:40 PM ----------

O.com.
I mean O.co :hehe:

The radio test is where the new extensions will have a hard time.

How so? How is Something Dot Something hard?
If slashdot can make it anything can!

I wouldn't use Overstock as an example of how to do anything. Last time I was on their site they had adwords with the same product I was looking at advertised for less

 

[Kate]

OK OK

But how many of you are running critical business websites on alt TLDs ?

I am under the impression that too many people are preaching water while drinking wine. Anybody who thinks .guru or .tips is as good as .com should lead by example. Otherwise are we supposed to take them seriously ?

The registration figures are not encouraging, but that is hardly surprising when there is a lot of supply and so little demand. I see those TLDs as glorified domain hacks with a limited purpose.

 

[JPC-Sabrina]

I agree. A few "investors" may jump too soon on this. The general public is hardly aware that any of these are available yet and it will take some time for the actual thought process of their value to kick in for most.

 

[GreenDog18]

When I joined the forum has nothing to do with when I started anything. Also I have never said anything about Domaining. I wouldn't know the first thing about investing into domains and sitting on them in hopes to sell for a profit.

What I do have experience in is building successful websites.

All I am saying is that at this current moment with the introductions of the new gTLD's I would rather build a website on DogFood.Guru instead of DogFoodGuru.com (which someone is trying to sell for 28k????) - http://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults-new3.aspx?ci=54814

I wouldn't mind building a website on DogTraining.Tips instead of having to register some longtail-dogtraining.com domain.

I can build organic traffic just as easy to DogTraining.Tips as I would if I went out and spent a couple grand on DogTrainingTips.com

I love these new gTLDS because it offers people choices instead of long tail .com's or shelling out lots of $$$ for a premium domain.

Is Poodle.com worth more than Poodle.guru. Of course. But to be honest with you I have no problem using Poodle.guru to build a site on. I don't care about the value of the domain.

I don't know why it is so difficult to understand.

Really it's cute that you've just begun domaining in February 2014 and you jump into the crowd immediately lecturing a bunch of seasoned veterans on "the future".

You're missing the primary point. For the past 20 years, it has been possible to name your website "Snowboarder Club". People could do this with a .COM for $9. Introducing .CLUB as a novelty didn't open any new doors.

In order to be called "Snowboarder Club" in 2014, a business has to own both the .COM that people assume as the default AND the newly introduced vanity extension of .CLUB. That's an added expense.

The visual difference in length between SnowboarderClub.com and Snowboarder.club is negligible. But if you only own the .CLUB version, then you MUST specify that "dot" in your name; otherwise people will go to a different website. So your name, in fact, becomes "Snowboarder Dot Club". And that is LONGER than "Snowboarder Club".

.COM indisputably will remain the most widespread extension in the world. Major companies like Amazon and Ebay and Facebook and millions more won't rebrand as Amazon.guru or Ebay.store or Facebook.tips. And with the vast majority of important websites continuing to use .COM, there is a lasting advantage for other websites to follow suit.

.COM transcends languages. .TIPS doesn't. .PETS doesn't. .SHOPS doesn't.

But the MAIN point is that introducing these new extensions effectively requires businesses who choose one of these few hundred keywords to use 2 domains instead of just 1 to establish their name uniquely online.

Nanotechnology.com used to be quite good on its own. Now the person who runs Nanotechnology.com may have to pay protection money to a Mafia-like registry in order to forward nano.technology to its website. This is not an advantage.

Or else there will be 2 confusingly similar websites out there -- Nanotechnology.com and Nano.technology. Having that kind of online confusion is not an advantage either.

Good luck with your domain purchases. But, honestly, if you start domaining by preaching to the professionals rather than listening to advice, you're going to flush a lot of money down the toilet.

 

[DU]

OK OK

But how many of you are running critical business websites on alt TLDs ?

The registration figures are not encouraging, but that is hardly surprising when there is a lot of supply and so little demand. I see those TLDs as glorified domain hacks with a limited purpose.

How many of you are running critical anything on anything

I see most of them as hacks - but with some meaning. That makes them potentially useful, potentially workable... but not necessarily valuable on investment basis. That said, I still think that .COMs are overpriced for many a mediocre name.

Every name I looked at was just a stupid hack. I really wanted to own lala.land because I always wanted to own my local geo.

 

[Keith]

That said, I still think that .COMs are overpriced

If you're operating a legitimate business, can you put a price tag on something that grabs the attention of the entire world? This is what a memorable .com does. Anything less is forgettable without a mind-blowing budget :imho: