NP the subject of discussion of DNF

RaiderGirl said:

Today is a special day, it is the day I was banned.. No reason given.

Good Riddance DNF.COM, You are an embarrassment to the Internet Community.

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In a thread about the Boston bombings asking for all parties and people to come together at this horrible time, you decided yet again to post your political views about this tragedy and blame Obama and that is ridiculous.

I have no view on US politics as I am Canadian.

I also love how you blame all Canadians for being banned on DNF when it was actually an American that banned you. You bigotry against Canadians is ridiculous.

Your post:
"This is what? the 2nd or 3rd Terrorist attack on US Soil since Obama became President?

And he's focused on doing what right now? Oh yeah, restricting Guns from law abiding Americans."

:imho: It won't be long until the smart people here figure you out as well.

Best wishes,
Adam Dicker

HeyNow said:

Nice of you to chime in here Adam. While VP of TDNAM auctions at Godaddy, you stealthily bid against clueless Godaddy TDNAM customers in TDNAM auction(s). It won't be long before "the smart people here figure you out" too. Please slither back under your rock.

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Heynow,

Your comments are libelous and without foundation.
But thank you for organizing them all in one thread, it makes screen captures easier.

Please delete them all now unless you have facts to support your claims or expect me to serve you in the vey near future for libel.
I make no empty threats just a promise that people can't run their mouths and bash others without proof and expect no repercussions.

Please govern yourself accordingly.

Adam Dicker

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Keith said:

Adam, what say you?

I think DNF would benefit from change. Mainly offering free service for things like PM access. Perhaps deletion of threads which simply offer links to members "news sites" are in order? It's damn near spam :imho:

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This makes sense.

Adam

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HeyNow said:

You must be joking. It's not my job to educate you here after numerous posts and documentation proving my point have been previously posted. I'm not your private tutor.

Every now and then some nudnick pops up in this thread and says something like, "Show us the proof!" Then the proof is presented and the nudnick is thereafter quiet. Here we go again.

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Show me the proof as I am this week's nudnick.

Adam Dicker

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HeyNow said:

Nice of you to chime in here Adam. While VP of TDNAM auctions at Godaddy, you stealthily bid against clueless Godaddy TDNAM customers in TDNAM auction(s). It won't be long before "the smart people here figure you out" too. Please slither back under your rock.

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David Corish,

So far I have your full name, address, phone number, all screenshots and a list of your 119 domains you own.

Turning it all over to my lawyer now.

I also noticed you have been on Namepros for a while now and have only contributed to 4 threads. All slamming me, Ron Jackson and Snapnames.

Have a great day!

Adam Dicker

...hi, Adam,

Nice to see you here, albeit wishing it was under more congenial circumstances. DNF was the first one I went to when I began my excursion into domaining. It is a shame that then, as now it seems, that there are many hostile members that take a dim and guarded view of new members.

But that's all good, because it was through that bullying that I discovered NP. Your forum may be the creme de la creme, per se, but I enjoy not being harassed, especially when expecting a professional forum where ideas can be exchanged.

Still, you are a friend on FB and I value your input. Thanx for your efforts in domaining...

freedom30 said:

...hi, Adam,

Nice to see you here, albeit wishing it was under more congenial circumstances. DNF was the first one I went to when I began my excursion into domaining. It is a shame that then, as now it seems, that there are many hostile members that take a dim and guarded view of new members.

But that's all good, because it was through that bullying that I discovered NP. Your forum may be the creme de la creme, per se, but I enjoy not being harassed, especially when expecting a professional forum where ideas can be exchanged.

Still, you are a friend on FB and I value your input. Thanx for your efforts in domaining...

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I have nothing negative to say about Namerpos as Matt and I are friends. I wish you great success here. This is a great forum!

Happy to be your friend on facebook!

Adam Dicker

stopped listening to HeyNow when i noticed every post for the last year was about dnjournal / DNF

dude even if you have a point the last 3 posts even in this thread are almost copy/pasted exactly.. nobody is going to listen to you when they sense that amount of hate..

http://domainnamewire.com/2008/06/30/godaddy-bans-employees-from-bidding-on-tdnam/


http://domainnamewire.com/2008/06/20/expired-domain-services-let-employees-bid-against-customers/

@ everyone, Please try to express yourself in an ethical and professional manor. I understand that some of you may be frustrated and upset, however lets please try not to fall into name calling or make any unsupported accusations towards others. Opinions are fine and we encourage everyone to speak their minds without fear of censorship. Just please use your better judgement before you post and make sure that you aren't violating any rules or defamation of anyone's character without proof of the accusations.

I'm confident everyone can get their points across in a civil manor.

Thanks,

Eric Lyon

HeyNow said:

http://domainnamewire.com/2008/06/30/godaddy-bans-employees-from-bidding-on-tdnam/


http://domainnamewire.com/2008/06/20/expired-domain-services-let-employees-bid-against-customers/

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That's great but none of those are against any policy at all and even go daddy stated clearly that they found no wrong doing.

Both links shows that Go Daddy had no rules against employees buying names when this took place and many were buying names.

Go Daddy had full access to check the back end to see if I used that to gain any advantage and after their in house investigation said I did not.

Also, it was not done in stealth mode, I used my real name and my account I had before I was with Go Daddy.

Again, if you have proof otherwise bring it forward, I am waiting.

I don't believe you have more knowledge than Go Daddy.

Also, .us stinks as far as revenue and resale but then you know that because over half your portfolio is .us.

I think you need to get past this and realize I have done a lot more good for this industry than this one incident in 15 years that you seem to be stuck on.... which Go Daddy even didn't find anything wrong with.

Adam Dicker

personally i think that this discussion is way off track...

Eric_Lyon said:

@ everyone, Please try to express yourself in an ethical and professional manor. I understand that some of you may be frustrated and upset, however lets please try not to fall into name calling or make any unsupported accusations towards others. Opinions are fine and we encourage everyone to speak their minds without fear of censorship. Just please use your better judgement before you post and make sure that you aren't violating any rules or defamation of anyone's character without proof of the accusations.

I'm confident everyone can get their points across in a civil manor.

Thanks,

Eric Lyon

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...couldn't agree more, Eric.

Adam proves his value as a leader by coming on this forum in a respectful manner to answer any questions we may have. I for one respect that quality in a person.

Repeating the same accusations over and over(ad infinitum, ad nauseum)after it has been appropriately answered to almost everyone's satisfaction, however, does weaken the thread and puts the experience in a useless loop, benefiting no one.

Thanks for this rare opportunity to provide an ear to our suggestions/complaints/tributes.

I am also confident that Adam did take some constructive criticism back to DNF with him. Just a nice surprise to "hear" from him here on Namepros...

Adam Dicker said:

I have no view on US politics as I am Canadian.

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Your people are so quaint


I'm kidding. I don't want to be sued.

Eric_Lyon said:

@ everyone, Please try to express yourself in an ethical and professional manor. I understand that some of you may be frustrated and upset, however lets please try not to fall into name calling or make any unsupported accusations towards others.

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I believe that Adam called someone a Nudnick. Now I'm not sure what nudnick is but it sounds rude and unprofessional to me,

I think he should be forced to publicly apologize to himself.

Adam Dicker said:

In a thread about the Boston bombings asking for all parties and people to come together at this horrible time, you decided yet again to post your political views about this tragedy and blame Obama and that is ridiculous.

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Thank you Adam for coming here and having the guts to provide a reason for the ban, something you didn't have the guts to do in the first place.

So I was banned for expressing a political question? Wow, expressing my right to political speech is worthy of a ban? Gee, I didn't see that in the rules, but what do rules matter anyway when you and your moderators selectively enforce them?

And the Hypocricy:

You post;

"Despicable, shameless behavior. There can be no other words to describe those looking to quickly cash in on yesterday’s tragic Boston marathon bombing. Within minutes of the two explosions taking place, dozens of new internet domains were registered in what … Continue reading"

But yet one of your Moderators allowed and defended the right of a poster to sell a Whitney Houston domain shortly after her unfortunate death. http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt171/pyralink/DraggerWhitney_zps977d5dc3.jpg

You may not like the question I asked, you may think it was appalling, which I DON'T think it was, politicians and even our President play the blame game ALL the time, how many times and for how long have members blamed George Bush for 911 where over 3000 innocent lives were lost? Where are those BANS?

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I think your moderator Draggar summed it very well when he photoshopped this image;


http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt171/pyralink/Draggar_zps2a0c6f85.jpg


Quite fitting I must say

Adam Dicker said:

it was actually an American that banned you. You bigotry against Canadians is ridiculous.

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Ah, so now we have a unknown scapegoat, You clearly indicated on your site that your the only one who does permanent bans, And now your suggesting it's someone else? Gotta love it!.

And for the record, I think Canadians are some to greatest people on the planet, I have several friends who are Canadian, and one of my favorite domain bloggers is from Toronto, My comment about it being a "Canadian thing"was intended solely for you, my bad and my apologies for lumping all Canadians into your rotten basket.

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freedom30 said:

Adam proves his value as a leader by coming on this forum in a respectful manner to answer any questions we may have. I for one respect that quality in a person.

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I do to, I just don't respect what I'm reading from his posts. Clearly this is an assault on Freedom to express speech.. What I wrote was not targeted at anyone, I did not use quotes, I posed a question about the President's track record, and got banned for it, That is the bottom line.

Absolutely mind boggling

RaiderGirl said:

Ah, so now we have a unknown scapegoat, You clearly indicated on your site that your the only one who does permanent bans, And now your suggesting it's someone else? Gotta love it!.

And for the record, I think Canadians are some to greatest people on the planet, I have several friends who are Canadian, and one of my favorite domain bloggers is from Toronto, My comment about it being a "Canadian thing"was intended solely for you, my bad and my apologies for lumping all Canadians into your rotten basket.

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No scapegoat, you can be mad at me if you like.

Whatever floats your boat.

Adam Dicker

After reading this thread, and absorbing some stuff, good and bad, I am only going to say one thing...
I am glad I do not waste my time at dnf.

DU said:

Now I'm not sure what nudnick is but...

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dont know either but its possibly the most canadian sounding insult i've ever heard... although would sound better with an "eh" after it.

kidding.. im only a prejudice bigot on the weekends..

4. Does the First Amendment apply to private companies and organizations?
No. The First Amendment applies to the government — to protect individuals from government censorship. While the text of the First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech,” it means that no federal, state or local government official can infringe on your free-speech rights. A private company is not a government or state and therefore generally is not subject to the requirements of the First Amendment.

iowadawg said:

After reading this thread, and absorbing some stuff, good and bad, I am only going to say one thing...
I am glad I do not waste my time at dnf.

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why? just going by the he said she said?

Adam Dicker said:

No scapegoat, you can be mad at me if you like.

Whatever floats your boat.

Adam Dicker

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I'm not mad at you Adam, just extremely disappointed.. There was a time I had a lot of respect for you, I thought you had a lot of intellectual honesty within you, I was wrong.

Whoever did the banning, clearly had a ulterior motive, and if you cant see that, I truly feel sorry for you.

I hope that when you go to a web site and someone unfairly drags your family into the discussion like you allowed your Forum to do over the years, I hope it hurts just as much as it does me.

Next time you see Theo at the Trade Show, think about that.

Family should never be brought into, this is what happens to debates that don't stay on topic. There should be a point/counterpoint. When people don't stay on topic it breaks down to classless or inappropriate stuff.

Adam Dicker said:

That's great but none of those are against any policy at all and even go daddy stated clearly that they found no wrong doing.

Both links shows that Go Daddy had no rules against employees buying names when this took place and many were buying names.

Go Daddy had full access to check the back end to see if I used that to gain any advantage and after their in house investigation said I did not.

Also, it was not done in stealth mode, I used my real name and my account I had before I was with Go Daddy.

Again, if you have proof otherwise bring it forward, I am waiting.

I don't believe you have more knowledge than Go Daddy.

Also, .us stinks as far as revenue and resale but then you know that because over half your portfolio is .us.

I think you need to get past this and realize I have done a lot more good for this industry than this one incident in 15 years that you seem to be stuck on.... which Go Daddy even didn't find anything wrong with.

Adam Dicker

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Perhaps you miss my point.

No one that I know ever said you broke the law or violated a Godaddy policy. Although Godaddy did change its policy about employees bidding at Godaddy auctions shortly after the revelation in domainland that you were bidding against Godaddy customers in Godaddy auctions while you were a VP in charge of those same auctions.

"Stealth'" mode does not mean invisible. It means something doesn't stand out of the norm.

What you violated was the trust of lots of domainers who hadn't a clue they were bidding against you.

You may not have taken unfair advantage of your position while bidding, but those of us who participated in TDNAM auctions will probably never know for sure. It would defy logic for your customers to believe you had no access to any bid information over and above what any Godaddy customer had.

That's it in a nutshell. It appears you bid against Godaddy customers who were not Godaddy employees, and it left a bad taste in the mouth of the industry. You don't see that?

I think we are then getting into reputations Hey Now, either people believe Adam Dicker or they don't. He says he had no other access and so does Go Daddy. Go Daddy changed the policy so why would we keep discussing it years later ? If there was no wrong doing proven then it was simply a policy that many did not like and the company responded and changed it, if we criticize companies that don't respond to the concerns of the majority then some credit imo should be given to companies that do change.

I mean people cannot play this on the fence, either someone believes Adam Dicker had info and did wrongdoing or they believe he did not and they were just competing against one of the bigger domainers in the industry, which they do every day on NameJet. Again IMO

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Nudnick: "An obtuse, boring, or bothersome person; a pest."

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equity78 said:

Family should never be brought into, this is what happens to debates that don't stay on topic. There should be a point/counterpoint. When people don't stay on topic it breaks down to classless or inappropriate stuff.

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Agree, and this is when DNF Moderators had a duty to intervene and made a conscious decision not to, they only intervene when it's one of their friends doing the reporting.

No shortage of "classless and inappropriate" behavior on DNF.. They must see value in it that I don't.

Ahhhh, that feeling of 'love' at NP... 8-X.


..... :red:

HeyNow said:

.. it left a bad taste in the mouth of the industry. You don't see that?

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As a simple observation, it seems after all this time since this incident, and the lack of others griping continuously as you do on it, 'you' are the only one still beating that dead horse issue, and enjoying that 'bad taste'. Maybe time to just get on with life? others have.

Maybe the "tone" is off sometimes, but I do appreciate HeyNow's consistency and contributions to this community. Kind of like w/ Snoop in .TV ville for those that remember.

Adam Dicker said:

Also, .us stinks as far as revenue and resale but then you know that because over half your portfolio is .us.

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I do not think that is cool at all considering your popularity w/in the domaining community nor beneficial to many of your own forum members since many of us have a considerable investment in the extension for the United States.

Other than that, I've never had any problems at DNF, but do not use it often.