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[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[mr-x]

There is a difference between anti-vaxxers and vaccine hesitant, plus conspiracy theorists are more likely to sign on to Russian propaganda.

Don’t like Russia sanctions? You probably don’t like COVID-19 vaccines either

Big surprise! Anti-vaxxers are also more likely to fall for Russian propaganda​

This sounds like self-serving political propaganda. Polls are manipulated, especially by left, to enforce narratives, not truth.

 

[.X.]

The number of detentions at anti-war rallies across Russia has reached more than 15,000 since President Vladimir Putin ordered an invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, the independent protest monitor OVD-Info reported Sunday.

ОВД-Инфо @OvdInfo March 20, 2022

❗️ ОВД-Инфо насчитал уже более 15 000 задержаний* участников антивоенного протеста в России.

* 15 000 — количество задержаний, но не задержанных: одних и тех же людей могут задерживать несколько раз.

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Brave Russians

What we see as cruel and unusual punishment in the west is normal day to day law in other countries , that is one reason the US entered into a 30 year with Iraq and Afghanistan , to liberate and bring democracy to two Islamic countries who religion does not really allow for such. The west now questions the laws and penalties of Russian law.

 

[.X.]

What we see as cruel and unusual punishment in the west is normal day to day law in other countries , that is one reason the US entered into a 30 year with Iraq and Afghanistan , to liberate and bring democracy to two Islamic countries who religion does not really allow for such. The west now questions the laws and penalties of Russian law. The US depleted its military personnel in the Iraq - Afghanistan conflicts.

I think the west should learn to live with the laws of other countries , there are countries that do not agree with the Western countries laws and way of living, but they live and let live

 

[BRANDERX]

This is what the russian Hitler is doing in Ukraine by dozens on a daily basis:

Ukrainian mother seriously wounded while shielding baby from missile strike​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nded-while-shielding-baby-from-missile-strike

"Olga, a 27-year-old Ukrainian woman seriously wounded while sheltering her baby from shrapnel blasts in Kyiv, recalled the shock as she saw blood covering her child after a missile strike that shattered glass across the room.

“I was wounded in the head, and blood started flowing. And it all flowed on the baby,” said Olga, sitting on a bed at the Okhmatdyt Children’s hospital where she was being treated.

“I couldn’t understand, I thought it was her blood.”

I saw this this morning, I just felt sick going through the details.

Glad they survived!

 

[Mister Funsky]

When tanks enter a city, their maneuverability is limited making them easy to hit.

Below is a video that brings your point home (notice the ground forces the rounds went by on the way to the target).

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[Cannuck]

This sounds like self-serving political propaganda. Polls are manipulated, especially by left, to enforce narratives, not truth.

Left, right, center...it's still propaganda all the same.

What we see as cruel and unusual punishment in the west is normal day to day law in other countries , that is one reason the US entered into a 30 year with Iraq and Afghanistan , to liberate and bring democracy to two Islamic countries who religion does not really allow for such. The west now questions the laws and penalties of Russian law.

An excuse for US invasion and occupation? ...gotta luv poppies.

 

[BRANDERX]

3.3 million Ukrainian refugees in less than a month of war, the majority of which are in neighboring countries like Poland, Latvia etc. While not necessarily poor, but not the richest European nations by any means.

Of those 3+ million refugees, 10,000 or so are having "visas processed" by the extremely rich United Kingdom, & around 8-10,000 or so, have been relocated to the French republic, a very wealthy nation.

Not exactly rising to the occasion.

IMO

Looks like Germans are doing well in terms of taking in refugees fleeing the horrors of war, 200,000+ Ukrainians are now in Germany.

 

[.X.]

Left, right, center...it's still propaganda all the same.


An excuse for US invasion and occupation? ...gotta luv poppies.

With such a depleted military , I don’t see how the US could deploy anything into a large conflict , and what soldiers the US does have, the moral is low IMO

I agree , the vast majority is propaganda with no substance ..

 

[.X.]

Looks like Germans are doing well in terms of taking in refugees fleeing the horrors of war, 200,000+ Ukrainians are now in Germany.

Germany is a well rounded country for the Ukraine refugees IMO ..

 

[bmugford]

Left, right, center...it's still propaganda all the same.

An excuse for US invasion and occupation? ...gotta luv poppies.

I didn't support the second Iraq war at the time. I don't support it now.

It was a war of choice based on cherry picked (largely bogus) intelligence and trying to tie Iraq to 9/11 which they had nothing to do with it.

The first Gulf War was at least directly in response to their invasion of Kuwait.

I always thought it was rather odd to try and force another country to have democracy. It is kind of a paradox.

Brad

 

[mr-x]

With such a depleted military ,

Diversity is our strength.

 

[bmugford]

With such a depleted military , I don’t see how the US could deploy anything into a large conflict , and what soldiers the US does have, the moral is low IMO

I agree , the vast majority is propaganda with no substance ..

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I hope it doesn't come down to it, but the US has the most well trained and equipped military in the world, by a very wide margin. We spend as much money per year on our military as the next 10 countries combined.

Again, like I said early I did not support the second Iraq war. With that said we easily took over Iraq in a few weeks with under 200 of our forces killed and Iraq had 4x as many ground troops. Ground troops are highly overrated when you have superior technology like B2 stealth bombers, F35, F22 Raptors, A10, and many other air to surface and sea to surface weapons.

Brad

 

[Kingslayer]

With such a depleted military , I don’t see how the US could deploy anything into a large conflict , and what soldiers the US does have, the moral is low IMO

I agree , the vast majority is propaganda with no substance ..

What would ground troops be used for? Ground troops would only be used for invasion and NATO wouldn't want to invade Russia. In a hypothetical war between great powers, the war would be fought via missiles

 

[.X.]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I hope it doesn't come down to it, but the US has the most well trained and equipped military in the world, by a very wide margin. We spend as much money per year on our military as the next 10 countries combined.

Again, like I said early I did not support the second Iraq war. With that said we easily took over Iraq in a few weeks with under 200 of our forces killed and Iraq had 4x as many ground troops. Ground troops are highly overrated when you have superior technology like B2 stealth bombers, F35, F22 Raptors, A10, and many other air to surface and sea to surface weapons.

Brad

Did we win Vietnam? Did we win Iraq? , Did we win Afghanistan ?

 

[bmugford]

Did we win Vietn

Did we win Vietnam? Did we win Iraq? , Did we win Afghanistan ?

Well, in fairness technology has advanced quite a bit since the late 60s/early 70s.

The Vietnam War is actually a good comparison to Ukraine.

We occupied a foreign country that did not want us there. They were never going to stop fighting.
It was also unclear what we were fighting for, or what "victory" was defined as.

It was the type of insurgency you are going to see in Ukraine even if Russia takes over large cities. They will never be able to hold them.

Did we win in Iraq and Afghanistan? Militarily both countries were taken over without that much issue, but we stuck around for years trying to occupy the country and force democracy.

So when it came to the military itself we won easily, when it came to nation building we did not.

Brad

 

[.X.]

What would ground troops be used for? Ground troops would only be used for invasion and NATO wouldn't want to invade Russia. In a hypothetical war between great powers, the war would be fought and won via missiles

I agree , I think the days of conventional warfare are over , at least the end result of a war in this day and time .. Russia began the conflict with Ukraine very conventional , light duty weaponry, Russia has upped its scale of load on the missiles they are sending to Ukraine now , I think will see much less infantry fighting and larger payload missiles from here on out… Putin underestimated the Ukraine , but I think Putin also had an agenda to not destroy the infrastructure of Ukraine.

 

[mr-x]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I hope it doesn't come down to it, but the US has the most well trained and equipped military in the world, by a very wide margin. We spend as much money per year on our military as the next 10 countries combined.

The geniuses running the USA military were chased out of AF by warriors in sandals driving mini-trucks. We left billions, including high tech weapons for the Taliban and the Chinese.

We deserted our allies.

Again, like I said early I did no support the second Iraq war. With that said we easily took over Iraq in a few weeks with under 200 of our forces killed and Iraq had 4x as many ground troops. Ground troops are highly overrated when you have superior technology.

We might be able to destroy most of Russia's infrastructure from the air quickly but Russia is not back-water third world military. It would be months of bloody warfare. Russia has modern anti-aircraft and missile defense systems.

Russia would attack the USA , including Washington DC, using nuclear submarines. They would attack our supply lines.

Russian military are are well trained and equipped in comparison to the enemies we have fought in the middle east.

You can't hold land without ground troops. Iran helped Iraqis use low-tech improvised weapons to hamstring the USA in Iraq for two decades.

Ignoring the evidence Joe Biden has partnered with Vladimir Putin, how is a man who can't stay awake past 8pm going to lead a nation at war.

 

[bmugford]

The geniuses running the USA military were chased out of AF by warriors in sandals driving mini-trucks. We left billions, including high tech weapons for the Taliban and the Chinese.

We deserted our allies.

Joe Biden actually had the balls to finally end the 20 year bullshit occupation in Afghanistan. What were we even still doing there? He can't take all the credit though, he actually just carried out Trump's withdrawal plan.

Former Trump officials praise Biden for carrying out 'Trump-Biden withdrawal' from Afghanistan:​

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...ying-trump-biden-withdrawal/story?id=79794652

Ignoring the evidence Joe Biden has partnered with Vladimir Putin, how is man who can't stay awake past 8pm going to lead a nation at war.

Biden partnered with Putin? Yeah...ok dude. You are losing it.

Brad

 

[mr-x]

What would ground troops be used for? Ground troops would only be used for invasion and NATO wouldn't want to invade Russia. In a hypothetical war between great powers, the war would be fought via missiles

and Russia has new, hypersonic missile that can carry nukes.

 

[bmugford]

Yeah, that is what is straining relations. It is not the invasion of Ukraine, it is the name calling.
That is just going too far.

Sounds like someone needs a safe space.

Oliver Carroll @olliecarroll March 21, 2022

Russia has handed US ambassador Sullivan a note of protest about Biden’s “murderous dictator” and “pure thug” assessment of Putin. “The unacceptable statements put relations between Russia and US at breaking point.”

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