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I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

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The thing is that it's not the elderly and those with children that are given a choice to make a decision about this, the decision is being made for them by those outside of the City.

All those who were able body have already left what's left in the City now are just the most vulnerable ones.

Has anyone actually asked them if they want to leave or not or are they just trapped in their against their will.

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Russia is not trustworthy when it comes to these agreements.

Any agreement would have to include something like UN peacekeepers, Red Cross, etc. being allowed in to control the flow of supplies and record and report any human rights violations.

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Any agreement would have to include something like UN peacekeepers, Red Cross, etc. being allowed in to control the flow of supplies and record and report any human rights violations.

Brad

It’s one thing to try to go after human rights violations and War crimes which is going to take at least a decade or two and we all know that in reality that system is designed only to deal with third World Countries not the major Nuclear powers.

But it’s a whole different issue to try to save people from starvation that is going on in Mariupol right this minute.

When was the last time that you saw War crime charges being brought against a major Nuclear Power.

Some of the biggest powers in the World are not even members of the World court and some don't even recognize the UN declaration of Human Rights.

A decision has to be made right this minute about saving the people trapped in Mariupol,

Taking a chance with what Russia has promised sounds like the most logical choice even if it turns out to be false later on.

Keep in mind that Russia wants to wrap up this operation (War) and achieve its objectives as quickly as possible before the casualty levels on their side get totally out of control,

And so I believe that there is a good chance that they might honor what they are offering here.

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I am not sure if Ukraine made the right decision here by refusing this offer knowing that Russia is most likely going to intensify its attacks on Mariupol in the coming days.

Perhaps Russia can extend that offer for couple of more days and let the Ukrainians think about the inevitable doom that the City is going to face by refusing to accept this offer.
So you want a country to surrender because the russian Hitler (now AKA the Godfather) tells you that he is "gonna make an offer you couldn't refuse"?

Man, then the russian Hitler would have it so easy to expand his "empire", he just has to tell all his neighbors to surrender or they'll be bombed.

There's a country COMMITING WAR CRIMES, MASS SHELLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS, and a country FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND, FOR THEIR DEMOCRACY, and you want them to surrender to the russian Hitler?!

By the way, while there are ukrainians willing to fight for their country, for their homes and for their land, the russian Hitler WILL NEVER WIN.

The day they surrender to the russian Hitler INVASION will be the day ukrainians will lose their country.
 
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So you want a country to surrender because the russian Hitler (now AKA the Godfather) tells you that he is "gonna make an offer you couldn't refuse"?

Man, then the russian Hitler would have it so easy to expand his "empire", he just has to tell all his neighbors to surrender or they'll be f*cking bombed.

There's a country COMMITING WAR CRIMES, MASS SHELLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS, and a country FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND, FOR THEIR DEMOCRACY, and you want them to surrender to the f*cking russian Hitler?!

By the way, while there are ukrainians willing to fight for their country, for their homes and for their land, the russian Hitler WILL NEVER WIN.

The day they surrender to the F*CKING INVASION by the russian Hitler will be the day ukrainians will lose their country.

I perfectly understand that you like many other well wishing people around the World like to see the Ukrainians be able to push the Russian forces out of their Cities.

I know that the Ukrainians were making some headways against the Russian tanks, but how can they come ahead against the hypersonic missiles that Russia has started using now without direct intervention by NATO which is going to escalate this into a much bigger conflict.

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I perfectly understand that you like many other well wishing people around the World like to see the Ukrainians be able to push the Russian forces out of their Cities.

I know that the Ukrainians were making some headways against the Russian tanks, but how can they come ahead against the hypersonic missiles that Russia has started using now without direct intervention by NATO which is going to escalate this to a much bigger conflict.

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The West should send every weapon they have to Ukraine. Aircrafts and Surface-to-Air missile systems, everything.
The russian Hitler is a coward and won't start a war against NATO because then yes, he would need to hide in the deepest and darkest Siberian forest.
 
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This is what the russian Hitler is doing in Ukraine by dozens on a daily basis:

Ukrainian mother seriously wounded while shielding baby from missile strike​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nded-while-shielding-baby-from-missile-strike

"Olga, a 27-year-old Ukrainian woman seriously wounded while sheltering her baby from shrapnel blasts in Kyiv, recalled the shock as she saw blood covering her child after a missile strike that shattered glass across the room.

“I was wounded in the head, and blood started flowing. And it all flowed on the baby,” said Olga, sitting on a bed at the Okhmatdyt Children’s hospital where she was being treated.

“I couldn’t understand, I thought it was her blood.”
 
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The West should send every f*cking weapon they have to Ukraine. Aircrafts and Surface-to-Air missile systems, everything.
The russian Hitler is a coward and won't start a war against NATO because then yes, he would need to hide in the deepest and darkest Siberian forest.

You seem to be forgetting that the west has already drawn a line as to how much assistance they are willing to provide to Ukrainians, because after a certain point once they start sending fighter jets and heavy weapons then they are taking an active part in the conflict which is something that NATO doesn't want to do.

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You seem to be forgetting that the west has already drawn a line as to how much assistance they are willing to provide to Ukrainians, because after a certain point once they start sending fighter jets and heavy weapons then they are taking an active part in the conflict which is something that NATO doesn't want to do.

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That's what the russian bully says. He threatens, but he won't dare to start nothing against NATO. He just prefers to attack an almost unarmed country without any air defense system and kill the maximum civilians he can.
He threatens the west, but the west should not be frozen against what's happening right now in Ukraine.

The West does not have to let the bully tell the rest of the world what they can or cannot do.
Those are menaces by a bully and the West should not let ukrainians fall and be massacred like it's happening right now. The minimum should be to give Ukraine the defenses they need to self defend their country and their lives. Aircrafts and air-defenses included if that's what ukrainians need to not be exterminated.
 
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That's what the russian bully says. He threatens, but he won't dare to start nothing against NATO. He just prefers to attack an almost unarmed country without any air defense system and kill the maximum civilians he can.
He threatends the west, but the west should not be frozen against what's happening right now in Ukraine.

That's the dilemma of the 21st century where you are dealing with a renegade Nuclear Power,

You can't just sit on the sidelines and watch as thousands of innocent civilians are being starved to death and at the same time you can't get directly involved because that will put millions of your own people at the risk of Nuclear War.

When you make an assessment of the situation in Mariupol you have to consider all the factors involved here. Even if NATO wants to help they don't have anything that can stop those hypersonic missiles.

For you to keep saying that Russia is bad is not going to help those who are starving right this minute in Mariupol and so you have to look at all the options that can be used to save them even if it means abandoning the City.

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Your points are well taken.
The world does not want to see citizens of Mariupol, including children and the elderly, starve to death. But we also don't want to see those folks agree to something that really wasn't trustworthy and hurts them in the long run. It is even possible that accepting agreement is the right decision -- but there are politicians, diplomats, other strategists likely helping to weigh in on this.
We'd love to see NATO somehow solve the crisis, but there are no guarantees that direct intervention will not further escalate this to cause even greater crisis worldwide. Again, perhaps this decision is best deferred to the collective of Nato leaders, diplomats, and military strategists.
And, Old Timer, you were right about the Hague taking a long time, and never going against a nuclear power. When the ICJ attempted to investigate the US on potential war crimes by our troops in Afghanistan, the fallout was high against them. For better or worse, they do seem to have limitations in their ability to take on the biggest countries.
Please continue praying that ALL the world leaders find a way to peace soon. We already had our equivalent of WWIII -- the pandemic. Peace really is needed --- now.
 
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Some 93% of Ukrainian survey respondents believe their country will win the war against Russia, according to a poll conducted by local research institute Rating Group.

Nearly half of those surveyed hope the war will end over the next few weeks, while almost a quarter of the respondents believe the conflict will last several months.

Rating Group polled 1,000 Ukrainians who are 18 years and above from all regions, except Crimea and Donbas.

The survey also found that 74% of respondents are supportive of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's direct talks with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, but 89% are against a temporary truce that doesn't include a Russian troop withdrawal.
 
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You seem to be forgetting that the west has already drawn a line as to how much assistance they are willing to provide to Ukrainians, because after a certain point once they start sending fighter jets and heavy weapons then they are taking an active part in the conflict which is something that NATO doesn't want to do.

It's not if, but when the West enters the theatre, WW3 has already started IMO.

He threatens, but he won't dare to start nothing against NATO. He just prefers to attack an almost unarmed country without any air defense system and kill the maximum civilians he can.

Ukranians are probably seriously pissed they gave up their nukes voluntarily. Japan of all countries is even considering nuclear arms sharing and has said it reserves the right to a military 'first-strike' as a means of self-defense.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/japan-insists-it-has-a-right-to-a-military-first-strike-qt5rnzrvh
 
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Truth is another front in Putin’s war


Russia’s propaganda machine plays into suspicion of the West and NATO, which have been vilified on state television for years, deeply embedding distrust in Russian society. State media has also more recently echoed beliefs advanced by the QAnon movement, which ascribes the world’s problems largely to global elites and sex traffickers.

Yet when the invasion began, it seemed to catch the organs of the propaganda apparatus unprepared. Officials and state media had just spent weeks accusing the Biden administration of exaggerating what Russia claimed were simply regular military exercises, not the buildup of an invasion force.

“Clearly, they did not prepare the information warfare machine,” Pomerantsev said. “It takes months to prepare something like this.”

That could explain the changing, disjointed nature of Russia’s campaign. The threat of biological weapons in Ukraine — let alone secret American weapons factories producing them there — was not cited as a rationale for the “special military operation” that Putin announced at dawn Feb. 24. These falsehoods emerged only later.

“They throw stuff out, and they see what works,” said Thomas, the researcher from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. “And what’s really working for them at the moment is the biolabs stuff.”
 
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The number of detentions at anti-war rallies across Russia has reached more than 15,000 since President Vladimir Putin ordered an invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, the independent protest monitor OVD-Info reported Sunday.

❗️ ОВД-Инфо насчитал уже более 15 000 задержаний* участников антивоенного протеста в России.

* 15 000 — количество задержаний, но не задержанных: одних и тех же людей могут задерживать несколько раз.


Brave Russians (y)
 
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I wonder what country will receive the first 'hit'.

Ships at Risk as Mines from Ukraine Drift into the Black Sea​

Several hundred mines have drifted into the Black Sea after breaking off from cables near Ukrainian ports, Russia's main intelligence agency and shipping market participants said.

The Black Sea is a major shipping artery for grain, oil, and oil products.

"Due to storm weather, the cables connecting the mines to anchors were broken," Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), the main successor to the Soviet-era KGB, said in a press release dated March 19.

"Due to wind and water currents, the mines are drifting freely in the western part of the Black Sea," the FSB said.

The FSB said about 420 mines had broken loose.

Novorossiisk Port Authority, in a note seen by Reuters, said that shipping was at risk in the western Black Sea. Shipping sources said Turkish authorities had cautioned about the risk for those using the Dardanelles and Bosphorus straits.

https://www.marinelink.com/news/ships-risk-mines-ukraine-drift-black-sea-495170
 
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With modern machinery, there is no major advantage to being in a tank, especially junky relics of the past.
You are basically in a tomb, a sitting duck waiting for enemy fire. Modern wars are won with air and naval supremacy, that is why Russia is struggling so much.

Brad

Russia has both air and naval supremacy. Tanks ( even 50 year old tanks ) are mobile, can hit targets beyond the field of vision and provide protection from small arms fire. Reactive armor can protect against most RPG's .

Tanks are vulnerable against American shoulder fired rockets and when packed on a road, artillery. When tanks enter a city, maneuverability is limited making them easy to hit.
 
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I have pray to Jesus asking to stop the war! 🙏
He reply "all goes according to plan, some cleaning is needed before my second coming, I m not going to save all the sinners"

15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’


it is very direct and painful to hear this from him, but I m sure he knows what he is doing. :xf.eek:


Also he is asking everyone to not rate my posts negatively, cause he is watching and adds them to the liquidation list. :dead:


P.s. he told me that Ukraine will be taken completely by Zionists cause Israel is too small for them. :xf.frown: :unsure:
 
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