Why are other domainers out to get each other?

[Robbie]

I suspect Im not the only person to feel this but why do some domainers have it for each other?

Someone recently contacted Neustar about loads of .us domains I own trying to get them deleted but they didnt realise that I do business in the US - So Im allowed to register these and Neustart dont have an issue with it.

Then next I get a comment on my site from someone called James who doesnt leave an email address that works that states this

"What have you been smoking? You've developed a network of useless webpages with multiple blatant Adsense TOS violations. You've got anywhere from one week to 3 months before google bans you. Why? Because your sites have just now been reported"

Now if they have reported me, fine I have nothing to hide with my sites but why?

Why are other domainers out to get each other?

We need to work together not againest each other!

Regards,

Robbie

 

[Pred]

i wouldnt worry about it Robbie
the faceless vermin that did this will be friendless and will have bigger worries on their plate

see if theres a way you can find out who it was . maybe get ip or whatever. there are some very talented people on this board, can find out just about anything

im sure we'd all love to find out who this individual is

its like life though. most people are sound and nice, you got the odd nasty sod. domaining is no different. dont sweat it
for every nasty sod, theres 5 hundred who are great fun and who will bend over backward to help. a few bend over forward to help also lol :sold:

 

[Robbie]

i wouldnt worry about it Robbie
the faceless vermin that did this will be friendless and will have bigger worries on their plate

see if theres a way you can find out who it was . maybe get ip or whatever. there are some very talented people on this board, can find out just about anything

im sure we'd all love to find out who this individual is

its like life though. most people are sound and nice, you got the odd nasty sod. domaining is no different. dont sweat it
for every nasty sod, theres 5 hundred who are great fun and who will bend over backward to help. a few bend over forward to help also lol :sold:

Thanks Pred - I have the ip address of this James

Do you know anyone who can hunt them down?

 

[shockie]

you might want to check your sites just to make sure that they aren't violating any adsense tos just in case.

 

[Robbie]

you might want to check your sites just to make sure that they aren't violating any adsense tos just in case.

I have had a look - I dont see anything that bad on my sites that would have someone say this . . .

 

[enlytend]

Why are you sure this person is a domainer? There are lots of webmasters who despise MFA's and are quick to report them.

Google gets a LOT of spam/policy violation reports - they won't be looking at your sites immediately. Instead of wasting time trying to hunt down "James" (which probably traces back to some ISP's network and is untraceable to an individual without the ISP's help)why not spend the time cleaning up any obvious problems on your sites?

(For example: Don't label your Adsense links "Articles"! )

 

[Robbie]

Why are you sure this person is a domainer? There are lots of webmasters who despise MFA's and are quick to report them.

Google gets a LOT of spam/policy violation reports - they won't be looking at your sites immediately. Instead of wasting time trying to hunt down "James" (which probably traces back to some ISP's network and is untraceable to an individual without the ISP's help)why not spend the time cleaning up any obvious problems on your sites?

(For example: Don't label your Adsense links "Articles"! )

You could be right it might not be a domainer - Im checking the 100's of minisite that I have now to ensure there is nothing on them but I think they are ok.

Thanks for all your helps guys!

 

[DubDubDubDot]

The bar of entry into doing business online is pretty low. That is what these incidents boil down to.

 

[Coopey]

Thanks Pred - I have the ip address of this James

Do you know anyone who can hunt them down?

Why not rise above it? Ignore it.
Prove that domainers don't "have it in for each other".

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[AndyO]

What a waste of energy on his part. Every minute he spends trying to tear you down is a minute you're spending working to be bigger and better than he will ever be

 

[Robbie]

Thanks Andy for your kind words!

 

[oldtimer]

I don’t think that domainers have it for each other in general, but it does seem like that there are some who hate those who own .US (or any other extension for that matter) that they feel is threatening to their own long-term interest. Sometimes it seems like there is a “ grand conspiracy “ to hold .US back, I mean just see how even NamePros took the .US sub-forum down just as .US was beginning to get some attention. IMO

 

[-REECE-]

I think a lot of extensions and market segments get that from some people.

I was on another board yesterday and one domainer basically called me and another guy newbies because we were investing in LLL.coms and LLLL.coms (including CVCV), something he referred to as newbie investments.

I have no problem with healthy debate, however making statements like this one serve no purpose other than to (bleep) people off.

I don't know why some domainers have it out for each other but anyone thinking it doesn't happen hasn't opened their eyes. Do they see other domainers as competition? Is someone spending their money on a short domain, an exotic ccTLD, a .us, .mobi, etc taking away money that otherwise may have resulted in purchases from them? Really don't know to be honest..

With how smart a bunch domainers are, it's a bit puzzling why we can't all just get along.

I don’t think that domainers have it for each other in general, but it does seem like that there are some who hate those who own .US (or any other extension for that matter) that they feel is threatening to their own long-term interest. Sometimes it seems like there is a “ grand conspiracy “ to hold .US back, I mean just see how even NamePros took the .US sub-forum down just as .US was beginning to get some attention. IMO

 

[Sameh]

I was on another board yesterday and one domainer basically called me and another guy newbies because we were investing in LLL.coms and LLLL.coms (including CVCV), something he referred to as newbie investments.

Reece, Don't take it personally. The guy you are talking about attacked lots of other educated & good domainers just to promote his own company. he also received lots of attacks on several blogs for his "I'm the one who gets it" comments.

 

[Seabass]

Why are you sure this person is a domainer?

I agree with this notion that it could be someone other than a domainer. These statements in my experience come from developers, not domainers, at least looking to history.

When the Web first went commercial the die hard techie bulletin board and coding nerds of pre-1995 went berserk with comments about how all these new "squatters" were buying up domains and destroying the Net. They were not happy even if the site was developed....and even unhappier if it had advertising on it. "Commericalism is destroying the Net"....was their war cry. The level of scorn and disdain was at a fever pitch in 96'. These type of guys are still around and many are developers, but just as domainers have sometimes been labeled arrogant, so have these developers. It's an elitist attitude they apply when looking down their nose at your work or achievements. They always think they can do better.

I have countless emails that came out of the blue....EXACTLY like the one you received, but most are from many years ago. I get those out-of-line emails very seldom anymore.

The other thing to consider.....is it an attack? It could just be a stupid email, but you never know anymore. A group of investors, a law firm, a multi million dollar corp, etc.... deciding they want you names? The tactics being used to steal domains from domain owners is getting refined and advanced. There are groups/people out there with objectives.....and they may even have multi-year strategies to pry your domains away from you. I'm aware of a group doing this right now, I'm sad to say. Scary stuff.
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[tricolorro]

Now if they have reported me, fine I have nothing to hide with my sites but why?

Why are other domainers out to get each other?

Robbie,

It's very possible the person that reported you to Neustar was hoping the domains would be taken away from you so he could try
and get them.

The other person that reported you to Google may just be jealous.

 

[Robbie]

Robbie,

It's very possible the person that reported you to Neustar was hoping the domains would be taken away from you so he could try
and get them.

The other person that reported you to Google may just be jealous.

I know its just strange why it has happend two days after Neustar say everything is fine with myself owning these sites then I get that email.

Im sure it is the same person, I havent done anything to anyone that Im aware of, It might be jealously, I dont know, It might be an enduser that wants the name cheap, It might pissed webmaster as others have suggested.

Who knows - Probally never find out.

Thanks all to everyone who has helped in this thread.

Regards,

Robbie

 

[-REECE-]

I know a few domainers have made some serious coin doing it -- wouldn't even be surprised if for some that's all they do...

As far as I'm concerned, there's not much of a difference between a scammer and someone reporting people for no reason other than in the hope of personal gain.

 

[Robbie]

Robbie,

It's very possible the person that reported you to Neustar was hoping the domains would be taken away from you so he could try
and get them.

The other person that reported you to Google may just be jealous.

I know a few domainers have made some serious coin doing it -- wouldn't even be surprised if for some that's all they do...

As far as I'm concerned, there's not much of a difference between a scammer and someone reporting people for no reason other than in the hope of personal gain.

Reece, How do they make cash, reporting me? Does Google reward them?

 

[-REECE-]

In the case of domains not following the terms:

The registrar may drop the domain because it violated the terms, then the person who reported it quickly snatches it up.

As for Google: Might make their bid prices lower if they were bidding on the same keywords as you, put them up 1 place in the rankings, etc -- there are reasons which aren't exactly altruistic.

Reece, How do they make cash, reporting me? Does Google reward them?